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Inspired by this, I guess: http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=d83010fb48441e39bbaf116b3843e51f&threadid=35877

In the roster panels, one member is obscured (Donna Troy, no doubt), but who the hell is that beside Superboy? Arsenal? Kyle Rayner sans mask? Richard Grieco?

Anyway, S: 60s & 70s Teen Titans, first six years (give or take) of Wolfman/Perez New Teen Titans, and the current cartoon.
so-so: Current Teen Titans
Destroy: Everything else.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link


David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Its Beast Boy looking unlike Beast Boy - innit.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh right. Good eye, Pete.
Or maybe, bad eye, Huk-L.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Somebody on the N'rama msg bd on that page has the baffling signature:
"Reading Grant Morrison books is a lot like listening to Elton John songs from the mid-70s... a beautiful melody, but, man, you need some really good drugs to understand what the hell he's trying to say."

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I just chalk that up to "there are 12+ people on ILC, the rest are paste."

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:20 (eighteen years ago) link

my girlfriend likes Teen Titans Go! That's the one based on the cartoon, right? She loves Beast Boy.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup. I haven't read the TTGO comic, but if it's got the same moxie as the cartoon, I like it.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Jericho's hair = very very dud

Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

See also Terry Long, aka Mr. Wonder Girl.

But Deathstroke the Terminator's boots = classic.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Also I never understood how Starfire's giant perm turned into rocket exhaust when she was flying around

Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Geo. Perez on the characters introduced in New Teen Titans:

The characters were pretty much already conceived and blueprinted to a limited degree, by Marv and by Len Wein, both of whom were big Titans fans in their youths. This was a big break for them.

They already knew what kind of characters they wanted: a cosmic character, a cyborg, and someone a little more magical. They gave me the names and where they wanted to go with it, such as Raven's soulself, which I visualized as [the Larry Trainor version of] Negative Man [from the old] Doom Patrol. I went home and designed each character once, came in with the designs, and they liked them all. I removed the belt from Raven's outfit, and Joe Orlando came in and saw Starfire and said, "Make her hair longer," and created one of her strongest visual trademarks.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Phil Jiminez has got the DTs:

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I get the sense that DC is setting all this up so Donna Troy can become the new Wonder Woman post-Infinite Crisis.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

So Wonder Woman is the New Flash?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not a bad idea - Wonder Woman could use a major kickstart, especially if they would like the book to be in good shape by the time Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman movie comes out.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, it's also worth noting that Dick Grayson is going to be the temporary Batman after Infinite Crisis - DC is getting a little carried away with this succession thing, but how can we be at all shocked by this when the guy in charge of the big crossover and setting up the new status quo is the writer of the Teen fucking Titans.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Geez, considering WW just snapped someone's neck, has a "sidekick" who's been out of the picture lately, and is headed for a Crisis...she's starting to look JUST LIKE BURIED ALIEN!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, geez - not another Woman In Refrigerator thing. Geebus.

If they're going to do anything to tie in w/ the Whedon WW flick, it'll probably be an All-Star type of thing.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

But, like, is there an "iconic" version of WW? Cuz this one we've got, who's been around for, what? 20 years is pretty different from the one who came before her, who's pretty different from the freaky S&M girly girly stuff from the 40s, all of which is sorta different from the TV stuff from the 70s.
The only iconic bits about WW are the bracelets and the lasso...and the bustier, I guess.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, other than the tiara, the bracelets, the lasso, and the uni, WW's probably a blank slate to most folk. Something akin to Darwyn Cooke's model in The New Frontier would be great, tho I am partial to the Perez / Rucka model currently in play (and currently breaking men's hearts) (I mean necks) (I still haven't read that issue yet).

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Everybody's bustier when Adam Hughes does their covers.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:17 (eighteen years ago) link

You should see his Wolverine.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

The only iconic bits about WW are the bracelets and the lasso...and the bustier, I guess.

And the invisible plane. And the mountain lions. I clearly remember mountain lions from the WW comic book w/audio cassette I had as a kid.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Aside from the visual stuff, my impression of Wonder Woman since I was a small child has consistently been that she's really bland and boring and a little sanctimonious, and all the male characters always talk about how hot she is even though there's always at least a dozen other female characters around who are drawn to be much better looking.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

And I'm not talking about specific artists' version of her either - it seems rather consistent with how EVERYONE draws Wonder Woman.

Here's a good example of what I mean:


Donna Troy is a billion times cuter than Wonder Woman, who sorta looks like she could be a dude in drag.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you read Gotham Central, Matthew?
There's a great scene in the new issue where the Teen Titans come in to answer questions about the dead kid dressed as Robin. Starfire walks into the squadroom and all the men are all drooly and panty, and then it cuts to Renee Montoya and Maggie Sawyer, and they're all ga-ga-ga-ga..."Is her skin glowing?"
And then Sawyer sez: "You should see Wonder Woman."
But, like, NO!
A hot alien with energy hair and glowing skin IS 100x more HOTT than some lady made of clay with stars & bars on her butt.

Donna Troy (especially in her red go-go jumpsuit will always be my favourite comics lady)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link

dude's have you ever seen girls actually wearing the wonder woman uni in real life - FUCKING HOT, definitely trumps any pantsuits some teen titan could whip out

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, okay, REAL WOMEN (and any women drawn by Adam Hughes) are more HOTT than comic ladies.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

as proven here:

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, obvs as a general rule cute real girls > drawings. But I'm speaking strictly about the context of this imaginary world.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

yalls imaginations need work then apparently!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know, I guess maybe the Wonder Woman thing is sorta realistic cos the sort of women who usually get the "HOTTEST WOMAN EVER!!!!!" treatment from most people rarely seem very attractive to me.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Hrm, me too.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Wonder Woman, but things have gone downhill for her ever since Alex Ross turned her into a damn bodybuilder.

But even in her Perez-drawn prime, she was nothing against Donna and her useless lasso, her red jumpsuit and her black leather stiletto boots (NANCY SINATRA, EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!!!!)

iodine (iodine), Friday, 5 August 2005 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link


Like so?

I'm very fond of that costume - very simple and well designed, and fairly realistic. Certainly a lot more practical and stylish than Starfire's outfit.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the version immediately preceding that one...it's not that different, but it just has a little more jazz going on. Like, I think the belt hangs at an angle or something.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, that's the look I'm talking about. Stylish is the word that pretty much defines that design, and I love how it feels like it was taken out of some 60's spy movie.

I think I remember the version Huk mentions...I recall a very simlilar costume, only with the stars leaning to one of the sides.

iodine (iodine), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was just a touch asymmetrical, which of course is one of the five sexy factors.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

And her hairdo is sooo much better than Diana's...

Hyppolyte's hair always looked terrible too. It must royal heritage or something like that.

iodine (iodine), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Doesn't DC realize that they'd have an easier time selling Wonder Woman to men and women alike if she was really cute and stylish?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Perez tried it back in the eighties, though I don't think he made it in a conscious attempt to sell WW to the casual reader. Nevertheless, he reduced WW's age to somewhere in her late teens/early twenties, and even though the costume still didn't help, she did look quite fresher.

I can't really swallow what she's looking like today, especially after Drew Johnson got replaced by Rags Morales in the regular series. Morales clearly borrows from Alex Ross' idea of making her look like this musclebound truck driver girl or something like that; how cute is that?

Still, the way Adam Hughes portrayed her in this cover got me interested in his All-Star Wonder Woman:


iodine (iodine), Saturday, 6 August 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Wonder Woman is kinda the perfect high profile project for Adam Hughes, isn't it?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 6 August 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I love the idea of Adam Hughes pencilling a WW comic, though it's supposed to be written by Geoff Johns, so I don't know what to think. But that might turn out to be a good thing; script's not gonna suck enough to hate it and it won't be amazing enough to distract me, so I should be able to give the most of my attention to the pretty panels.

Btw, I read somewhere on the net that Dan DiDio hinted that All-Star Wonder Woman was getting delayed since the creative team is already working but it's quite slow. Hughes is famous for his lack of speed, so one could assume that he is already working on this.

iodine (iodine), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Geoff Johns? will they publish a limited edition with no lettering? I want to want to read an Adam Hughes comic... :(

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i just picked up the first of the new new teen titans trade cos it was cheap - fucken terrible, totally unengaging script/characters, is this guy Johns always this bad (i hear he cldn't make the grade at marvel...)

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 6 January 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link


Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 6 January 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Tonight I'm going to read Titans Hunt and I dare anyone to try to stop me!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link


kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 00:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I got exactly ONE ISSUE into it. After Deathstroke the Terminator says (not a dream, not a hoax, not an imaginary story): "THIS TIME IT'S PERSONAL!" I needed to reread Edwina Crisis.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

One would guess so - this was done before SOLO, so the art's likely to be flatter and less textured. I'm unfamiliar with this Stephens fellow, though I do recall seeing mention of LAND OF NOD in a catalogue here and there when I was 18 or so.

R Baez, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

So...anyone going to pick up the new Titans ("It's like Friends with capes" says Winick) series debuting this week?

Dr. Superman, Monday, 7 April 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh hell no. Any lingering temptation I would need to overcome to not buy was squelched when Ian "Bony Supergirl" Churchill was announced as the artiste.

BTW, how great is Teen Titans: Year One? I say it's very very great.

David R., Monday, 7 April 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

ALL AROUND GREAT, YES. (though I hear Bob Rozakis is a little miffed for not getting any credit, since it's basically a decompression of one of his stories)

Dr. Superman, Monday, 7 April 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

He should get in line with the other old farts complaining about frilly foo-foo stuff like "creator's rights" and "royalties" and be happy he got published in the first place, dagnabit!

David R., Monday, 7 April 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe if he'd done it RIGHT in the first place...

Dr. Superman, Monday, 7 April 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

("It's like Friends with capes" says Winick)

well there is now zero chance of me buying this

HI DERE, Monday, 7 April 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's like Joey, with leotards."

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's like the American version of Coupling, with man thongs."

David R., Tuesday, 8 April 2008 02:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm gonna give it a shot; it will be my first Winick purchase…I guess I'll find out how atrocious he is for my own damn self…

Veronica Moser, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not that he's atrocious so much as it is the concept of "'Friends' with capes" is atrocious. He's just okay.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

VM, please save yourself the $3 bucks, and buy yourself a Slurpee. HI DERE is being too kind -- Winick's the sort of semi-competent uninspired placeholding sub-Johns wonk that DC loves to employ nowadays in order to keep their ass-backward trains running on time. 90% of the time, he's like a cross between the good old Marvel Bullpenner chugging out 24 pages of big-zang-wow under Jim Shooter's stern heel and the post-Image hack taking "grim and gritty" to its absurd and cartoonish extreme.

David R., Wednesday, 9 April 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

it indeed is suck-ass.

1. each Titan gets a few pages where they are attacked by monsters and evil soldiers…20 pages of full page pin-up art and NO story movement…writing for the trade means nothing happens…took me less than five minutes to read…

2. Raven has now been turned, stupidly but with respect to the cartoon, into a sarcastic goth girl…

3. Starfire is nekkid, which makes me really wonder if DC is right and there are such people who would get titillated by super hero comics…too pitiful to contemplate…

4. they do seem to be rehashing two arcs I've never read…

5. and no, i don't like his dialogue and this Churchill fellow's art is ugly…

So I ain't gonna buy no more…

Veronica Moser, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Slurpee RIP ;_;

David R., Wednesday, 9 April 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I liked Winick's Exiles. At first.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Winick is my least favorite writer working today.

chaki, Thursday, 10 April 2008 06:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, so much hate for Winick. He's like Jeph Loeb or Bendis nowadays where there's this instant backlash for whatever he does, no matter what.

Not saying everything he does is good - anyone who does as many books as he does is bound to deliver rushed mediocrity (see: his run on Teen Titans that this thread is about!) but his stuff on Exiles, Green Arrow, and Under the Hood (admit it, as a story by itself, it was good, just what DC did with Todd outside Batman was unnecessary) is definitely recommendable fun.

(Though I have to admit anyone who describes their book as "Friends with capes" in a positive manner, that just seems... bad.)

(and are the Teen Titans even salvageable as a book concept at this point? too much history, too many characters, comes out as a crappy New Mutants/Young X-Men rip-off that it was originally accused as. Then again, JSA works, so who knows)

Nhex, Thursday, 10 April 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

To be fair, Bendis and especially Loeb (and I'd group Millar in there as well) have more than earned their backlash. I will 2nd the Red Hood stuff up until they explain how SUPERBOY PUNCHED JASON TODD TO LIFE IN THE COFFIN, tho I rep it noting that it was very unWinicklike!

Also: that was Geoff Johns on the OK-devolving-to-shit Teen Titans -- Winick was on the OK-devolving-to-shit Outsiders.

Also: a world where Teen Titans is unsalvageable because of history and characters (which the Year One mini ably debunks) but a joyless continuity super-wank like JSA works is not my kind of world. (NB: I haven't touched the thing since it was rebooted, but I doubt it's any better than it was near the end of the 1st run.)

David R., Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Also worth nothing -- I've been burned by Johns enough in the past that I won't go within 50 yards of anything he's involved in unless his presence is mitigated by a Grant Morrison (whose own flavor of continuity wank is more my style).

David R., Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

The problem with Jeph Loeb was that he was never good in the first place! The only reason I ever read his books was due to X-completism and I enjoy "Heroes" despite the writing.

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha -- I think it was established that Loeb was all over the Nikki / DL / ATM Kid subplot for Heroes, which was scientifically proven to be 90% balls. He has his moments, tho (cf. whatever he's done w/ Ed McGuinness that wasn't related to mourning Captain America).

David R., Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

There was a time when Winick was pretty okay, with promise of getting good. Then he decided to write the same story in Green Arrow over and over again, let the Outsiders spiral out into crap. His Batman (or his BatMAHNKE, as I fondly remember) was very decent and mostly pretty good, though. Perhaps it's because Batman doesn't present as many calls for dialogue, which is where Winick goes from Just Another DC Hack to OMG I WANT TO PULL OUT MY EYEBALLS WITH INTERNET RAGE.

Dr. Superman, Thursday, 10 April 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

I got the New Teen Titans Omnibus Vol. 1 from the library recently. Never read any of these issues before, cuz as a kid I started buying the series around issue #30 and that was in the days before reprints and getting back issues was a random process. Generally I'm impressed by how solid it is right out the gate, Perez' art and style are so deeply burned into my mind I kind of think of it as just the archetypal 80s superhero art style, everything is finely detailed and "realistic", anatomies feel like they carry weight and substance even among all the garish colors and fight-scene nonsense. The writing is decent if overwrought and is the one place where the Ghost of Claremont's X-Men really does feel like it looms large - everyone has running monologues in their heads about their feelings during fight scenes, which is p lol. But overall I just dig the world it creates - young, urban, colorful but dangerous. I like it more than the Claremont X-Men tbh.

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

I've always liked that initial New Teen Titans run better than the Claremont X-Men. But it's definitely the minority opinion.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

The only Teen Titans issue I've ever read was this one:


which I was gifted when I was maybe 6 years old, at which time the content soared over my head. Been wanting to revisit and check out the whole run to satisfy my nostalgic curiosity. Worth the read, or would I do better to explore the earlier 80s stuff?

how's life, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

I'd start at the beginning. The Perez run is special.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

yeah start at the beginning, it's pretty fully formed from the get-go.

re: the Claremont/X-Men comparisons - there's obviously a bunch of parallels, but one of the things I think TT benefits from is having its characters situated in a quasi-realistic identifiably teen milieu. Everyone's always having so many FEELINGS in the X-Men but they're largely about things that bore no resemblance to anything I could identify, whereas in their various secret identities you'd get glimpses of the Titans leading (or attempting to lead) "normal" lives - having a boyfriend, going to college, going on a date, hanging out with friends, arguing with their parents. In between all the cosmic space battles and interdimensional demon stuff. There was a balance there that made it feel more "real".

One thing I hadn't noticed before is how Wally West is a self-professed "midwestern conservative", which kind of ties into his uptight jerkiness throughout most of the series lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 16 October 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

Here's how I read them in the UK:


Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

That weird age when you are old enough to have your mind blown by Animal Man, but also dig wearing an Atom badge

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

yeah, i read that too! the issue where animal man has his arm torn off by a giant mutant rat (with accompanying splash page of him bleeding out in an alley) had a profound effect on 10-tear-old me

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

i dunno who thought putting teen titans and animal man together in the same comic was a good idea but i salute their commitment to making bad decisions

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

Haha yeah - but lack of congruence aside, all those London Editions DC comics were really well-curated - introduced me to Byrne's Superman, Norm Breyfogle, Grant Morrison, Neal Adams's hairy-chested-love-god Batman... I think there was a proto-Vertigo one too, with Swamp Thing and some Howard Chaykin thing... that lasted about two issues. I have such clear memories of them - and yeah, especially that Animal Man splash page (I was 12 I think).

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

The US equivalent to that phenomenon was five completely random comics sealed in plastic and sold for a buck at grocery stores and the like. Maybe you guys had that, too? Still fondly recall the single issues of Alpha Flight and Micronauts: the New Voyages and Kull the Conqueror that I read over and over and over with no context or ability to really understand what was going on.

all those London Editions DC comics were really well-curated

yeah, they really were - they introduced me to so many great stories from dc history

the proto-vertigo one might have been swamp thing and black orchid iirc?

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

old lunch, i saw those bags of random comics a few times in the uk but weirdly more often in spain, where i'd pick them up every time i saw them in supermarkets or newsagents

no idea why or how english-language comics were showing up in bagged batches in catalonia in the late 80s to mid-90s but i loved 'em

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

Ha yes, family holidays where you starved for reading and were like, "Hey, a glossy magazine reprint of Star Brand in Flemish, why not?"

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

We could probably do with a thread dedicated to the insane variations of our childhood comics consumption. Like the campground I always went to with my grandparents, where they had a general store whose entire comics selection (in the mid-'80s) was made up of '70s DC horror anthologies. Why was that a thing? I have no idea, but I'm thankful that it was a thing.

start that thread! i wanna tell my stories of piecing together a run of green lantern: mosaic from dogeared back issues found in newsagents across devon in 1992!

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

dunno who thought putting teen titans and animal man together in the same comic was a good idea but i salute their commitment to making bad decisions

this is indeed a great decision, but what was the Kevin Maguire Creeper stuff in that?

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

I think that's [indescribably niche trivia alert] from JLI #7, which was running as backup in the UK Superman book and moved over to DC Action after Superman was cancelled.

Cancellations were so dark and lacking in closure back then. You'd turn up to your newsagent on the regular release day and it just wouldn't be there anymore. It was like a way to practice children for experiencing death.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

this is the teen titans thread

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

that's better!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Animal Man + New Teen Titans + JLI is an EVEN BETTER combination.

NTT was the only superhero comic I ever followed* as a kid, packed three or four to an issue in b&w Australian reprints circa 1986. Sometimes all the stories in an issue would follow each other, sometimes they'd be out of order, and sometimes they'd leap over to an unnumbered compilation under a Tales Of The Teen Titans cover focusing on one of the members. To tie into the other thread, I remember trying to process what i was seeing the first time I ever went into a comic shop in the city. "These are... colour reprints... of New Teen Titans comics... that haven't come out yet?"

*(as opposed to reading random issues of superheroes, or to reading every Asterix and Tintin and Footrot Flats collection and Kliban-format Garfield and MAD magazine or Kurtzman-era paperback I could find)

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

did the X-Men ever have an anti-drug storyline? NTT goes hard on that a couple times in typically ridiculous fashion.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

more so in a series of after-school specials paid for by the Reagan govt, though IIRC the Runaways storyline in the regular book leant hard on the "drugs destroy lives and all drugs are the same. don't smoke a drug syringe, kids" vibe

I bought a bunch of the US comics on eBay about seven years ago, to try and read the era of the run I fondly recalled in a more coherent form than originally, but unfortunately it turned out that they were not actually good and looked worse in the original colour printings

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

i def have that book somewhere

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 October 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

I'm trying to get through Young Justice season 3, and at episode 10 or so and it's been rough. Does it get better? And do I have rose-tinted glasses on or were the first two seasons actually good?

Hoisted by your own Picard (Leee), Monday, 16 October 2023 21:40 (one month ago) link

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