the complete peanuts (or fantagraphics: S/D)

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anyone got the first volume yet? (i'm wary of asking this question as i know several folks around here have expressed extreme peanuts-disdain in the past) (to which i say unprintable things) it's supposed to be out this month, but i haven't seen any copies in the bookstore yet. also, what are the best (or worst) fantagraphics publications you've seen?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I wasn't ever too interested in Peanuts. I would read it when I read the funnies.

Generally, I'm a bit ambivalent to what Fantagraphics puts out. I really like Chris Ware, Crumb, Clowes, and Tony Millionare, but a lot of the other things I've read by other authors/artists haven't impressed me. Does anyone else thing Fantagraphics is kind-of sedate?

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Friday, 9 April 2004 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Fantagraphics best things have been reprints, even though I love Clowes and the Hernandez brothers. I treasure their current Krazy Kat collections, and I have the complete run of Segar Popeye dailies thanks to them, which may be the one thing I'd rank pretty much alongside the Krazy Sunday pages. And when I was heavily involved in comics the Comics Journal was the magazine I admired far above any other, the standard to which I aspired (with some differences).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 9 April 2004 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

hopefully the success of the peanuts series will give fantagraphics the chance to reprint lots of other classic strips - maybe even finish the pogo series that ground to a halt a few years back. i hope they reprint the popeye books at some point, martin's high regard for them has me curious. i do remember thinking the sundays that got reprinted in "the smithsonian book of newspaper comics" were hilarious. "wimpy? oh, you must mean someone else...jones is my name, i'm one of the jones boys!"

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 10 April 2004 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a bit worried...I found bunches of copies of their first Krazy Kat compilation at 50% off at a Virgin Megastore (is it not selling so well?). And good lord, they need to continue with the Feiffer reprints...the last one (volume three) came out TWELVE YEARS AGO...

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 11 April 2004 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Popeye dailies are even better than the Sundays - it's a peerless blend of adventure and comedy.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 12 April 2004 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I love the incredible misery of that Seth-designed Peanuts cover.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...
If I get one complete Peanuts volume, which one should it be?!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd say wait a few years... the 1950s stuff they're reprinting now is a little stiff, a little dry - its only rteally becoming the strip it was in the latest volume, so - personally - i'd wait till the 1960s stuff gets reprinted, and choose one of those.

alternatively, search out the Peanuts Classics volume, and also Peanuts Treasury (both british publishers, i think) on amazon - thick hardback books packed with prime peanuts dailies and sundays. and the Golden Celebration is pretty fab, as is the earlier 'you don't look 35, charlie brown'...

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i'd say wait a few years... the 1950s stuff they're reprinting now is a little stiff, a little dry - its only rteally becoming the strip it was in the latest volume, so - personally - i'd wait till the 1960s stuff gets reprinted, and choose one of those.

alternatively, search out the Peanuts Classics volume, and also Peanuts Treasury (both british publishers, i think) on amazon - thick hardback books packed with prime peanuts dailies and sundays. and the Golden Celebration is pretty fab, as is the earlier 'you don't look 35, charlie brown'...

the art of peanuts is brilliant, also, but a more impressionistic collection, reprinting actual newsprint strips along with ephemera and merchandising.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link

so good i had to say it twice

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

If you just want one volume of Peanuts, try to track down "The Snoopy Festival", an old anthology of late-60s early-70s stuff. "Peanuts Treasury", which got reprinted a few years ago, is similar, and also pretty classic 60s stuff.

If you already have some Peanuts and want to try out the Fantagraphics books, get the first one. The very early Peanuts strips are strikingly different from what it would become and makes for interesting reading. Then get all the rest.

¯\(º_o)/¯ (Chris Piuma), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks dudes. I'll probably wait for future F-grfx collections.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Art-wise, volume one is the absolute bomb. I love Schulz's early, clean-line style. Volume one probably looks the most modern of the Peanuts stuff I've seen, paradoxically enough.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

¯\(º_o)/¯ vs. c("c)!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, I never read c("c) as an image before! D'oh. I thought it was like t//t or whatever.

¯\(º_o)/¯ (Chris Piuma), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Peanuts reruns from UFS are currently in 1959, if you want a free look at what the next Fantagraphics volume will contain.

The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Those reruns jump back and forth throughout the run. Not a bad thing neccesarily, just saying from week to week you don't know what you'll see.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

From Fantagraphics spamco. in Seattle:

"UNSEEN PEANUTS" Revealed This Friday!

Fantagraphics Bookstore & Gallery, in association with the Charles M.
Schulz Museum and Research Center, is pleased to present "Unseen
Peanuts." This collection of full size, rarely seen Peanuts strips
opens with a daylong preview on Friday, November 23 from 11:30 until
8:00 PM, highlighted by an "Unseen Peanuts" slide presentation by
Fantagraphics Books co-publisher Kim Thompson at 6:00 PM. The public
of all ages is invited to this free event.

Perhaps no American artist is more closely associated with the
holidays than Peanuts creator Charles M. Schulz. Kim Thompson, co-
editor of the Complete Peanuts series, points out that even though
Peanuts is the most-reprinted comic strip in history, several
thousand strips had never been collected until The Complete Peanuts
project began in 2004. The show includes a companion 32-page "Unseen
Peanuts" comic book catalogue featuring over 150 more of these "lost"
strips. This fully annotated publication is available for free with
any purchase exclusively at Fantagraphics Bookstore & Gallery.

Get an early start on your holiday shopping at Fantagraphics
Bookstore & Gallery, located at 1201 S. Vale St. (at Airport way S.)
in the heart of Seattle's lively Georgetown business district.
Throughout the month of November all comic strip reprints, including
The Complete Peanuts, are offered at 20 % off, and pick up our free
"Comic Strip Masterpieces" tabloid.

"Unseen Peanuts" remains on view through December 31. Fantagraphics
Bookstore & Gallery is open daily 11:30 - 8:00 PM, Sundays until 5:00
PM. 206.658.0110.

Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

seven years pass...

If I get one complete Peanuts volume, which one should it be?!
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:11 PM (8 years ago)

i'd say wait a few years... the 1950s stuff they're reprinting now is a little stiff, a little dry - its only rteally becoming the strip it was in the latest volume, so - personally - i'd wait till the 1960s stuff gets reprinted, and choose one of those.
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:46 PM (8 years ago)

so it looks like all of the 60s/70s fantagraphics volumes are released, can i go wrong with any of them or is there an essential pick??

dutch_justice, Thursday, 7 May 2015 08:29 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I bought We Told You So, the oral history of Fantagraphics. You could stun livestock with this thing... I'm looking forward to plowing through over the next few months. Seems meticulously put together, but definitely a couple of quibbles -- Eros Comix is left out of the bibliography completely, and the artist who drew the front cover illo isn't credited anywhere in the book that I can tell.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:46 (two years ago) link

Cover illustration has to be by Clowes?

Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:49 (two years ago) link

I guess? I wasn't 100% sure. Wait, there's a little "DC" in the bottom right. But if he's credited anywhere, I can't find it.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:52 (two years ago) link

Dale Crain: One of the most clever things ever was Kim one night taping several sheets of paper together to form an endless loop and faxing it to Comics Buyers's Guide to burn up all their fax paper — and hopefully their fax machine, too.

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Monday, 20 February 2017 20:11 (two years ago) link

The cover has been waiting since the book was originally going to come out; maybe Clowes' credit got lost in the intervening decade. I'm pretty sure it's been heavily cropped.

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Monday, 20 February 2017 22:37 (two years ago) link

also I can't tell who the beardo in the back with Spurge, Harvey & Fiore is meant to be

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Monday, 20 February 2017 22:38 (two years ago) link

Is it interesting enough for someone with only a passing knowledge of Fantagraphics? Speaking as someone who enjoyed the Sean Howe book before they'd read much Marvel.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 February 2017 23:35 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I think it is. It provides a series of snapshots of the whole industry, even if they're shot through a Fantagraphics lens. The Howe book is a good comparison point, but this behemoth has so much more archival art and correspondence and such. It really takes me back to my earliest fan days (I subscribed to TBG in '77, started buying TCJ not long after the Harlan Ellison interview in #53).

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Monday, 20 February 2017 23:50 (two years ago) link

This is good but I found there were plenty of parts where the topic is this or that Fantagraphics staffer who didn't necessarily play a part in the big picture and doesn't seem that interesting unless you were there I guess? Feels like there is stuff like that that could have been cut and made it a tighter read.

new noise, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 01:23 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

'best-of' humble bundle just went live, inc los bros, bagge, many others: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/best-of-fantagraphics-comics

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:11 (two years ago) link

If only I didn't have such an irrational aversion to paying money for digital comics. Much rather add to the growing fire hazard in my home.

Re: this thread topic in particular, I finally have all but the final box set. It's a lot of goddamn books, man.

I Dream of Juice (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:17 (two years ago) link

Idly picked up one of the mid-60s volumes from the library, had the initial Snoopy-as-Red-Baron strips so good

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:20 (two years ago) link

vs

I meant

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:20 (two years ago) link

I will be eternally thankful that I got my hands on my uncle's discarded paperbacks of '50s and '60s strips at the point when the daily strip was in its decline. I might've never been inclined to really check it out if I didn't know at a young age how good it had once been.

I Dream of Juice (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:25 (two years ago) link

yeah, similarly I had a handful of paperback collections from older relatives that were reprints of 60s strips (Snoopy leaves town for a tennis tournament?! Charlie meets Joe Shlabotnik etc)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 18:28 (two years ago) link

Re: this thread topic in particular, I finally have all but the final box set. It's a lot of goddamn books, man.

I stopped at 1971–74. Am I missing anything particularly worthwhile in the later years?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:37 (two years ago) link

I think I stopped about the same place as you so this question is related to my interests.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Thursday, 3 August 2017 09:14 (two years ago) link

My last box set was 67-70 but I haven't read it. I'm waiting for a reprint of the 63-66 box. Also, I'm waiting for a reprint of Walt & Skeezix Book 3. Kind of frustrating because 4,5,6 are available.

the ghost of lorax past (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 3 August 2017 12:21 (two years ago) link

Single out-of-print volumes from comics reprint series are the banes of my existence (LOOKING AT YOU, KRAZY KAT).

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 August 2017 12:27 (two years ago) link

I grew up with paperbacks of the 70s stuff so I have to rep for 73-74, which includes Charlie Brown's baseball rash/tenure as "Mister Sack.". Circa 1978 is the Crybaby Boobie tennis stuff but I'm not sure if any of that is actually good, or just fondly remembered.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:34 (two years ago) link

Is there a peak era to check out, if you just want a book or two?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:01 (two years ago) link

I would say start from the start. It starts out amazingly strong, and Schulz's draftsmanship in the '50s was impeccable.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:03 (two years ago) link

if you only want a book or two the peak era is late-50s thru the 60s.

new noise, Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:41 (two years ago) link

Yeah, Fantagraphics do a nice slipcase edition of volumes 5 and 6 (1959 - 1962) in paperback or hardback - probably the box to get if you're only getting one.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:53 (two years ago) link

It's probably only necessary to own all twenty-six volumes of this if you have a degenerative brain disease (sometimes referred to as 'completism') like me.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:13 (two years ago) link

I do find the late Peanuts strips a bit dispiriting - Schulz's line visibly deteriorating, going down to three panels, excessive focus on Snoopy and Woodstock, too many fucking strips abt sports - but there are still great sequences well into the 1970s at least. Peppermint Patty doesn't even appear until 1966 for example, well past the generally agreed peak period.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:27 (two years ago) link

I love Patty but can't actually remember any classic strips I love her in, since the 'greatest hits' type collections I moved on to from the 70s paperbacks leaned heavily on pre-Patty stuff. I think a ton of my affection is based on her animated presentation, especially the way she delivers "Prepare the secret ballot!" in Race For Your Life, Charlie Brown.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 August 2017 15:39 (two years ago) link

I would say start from the start. It starts out amazingly strong, and Schulz's draftsmanship in the '50s was impeccable.

I second this -- there's so much great stuff starting right from the beginning (and going all the way thru the '60s). Also, part of the experience is how the strip evolves.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:30 (two years ago) link

the first strip alone is worth it

Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:31 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I like the really early nihilist stuff which is about the first two or three volumes.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:34 (two years ago) link

that is 100% gold

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 3 August 2017 22:25 (two years ago) link

@peanuts50yrsago is in 1967 right now.

pic.twitter.com/MkEPfirj3w

— Peanuts On This Day (@Peanuts50YrsAgo) August 3, 2017

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 August 2017 00:35 (two years ago) link

Lucy gets it, man

(xpost)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Friday, 4 August 2017 01:37 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/h2n9ueavh8

— Peanuts On This Day (@Peanuts50YrsAgo) July 23, 2017

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 4 August 2017 02:03 (two years ago) link

huh, that's a good strip but weird - lying awake riddled with criss-crossing doubts and worries feels more Charlie Brown than Snoopy to me.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 August 2017 02:08 (two years ago) link

I picked up the fifth volume as directed - I love the annoyed image of Lucy on the right. It's so perfect.

https://i.cubeupload.com/I5mTaN.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 20:08 (two years ago) link

Wish I'd been in Seattle for Fantagraphics' yard sale and the Kim Thompson estate sale this past weekend.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 20:12 (two years ago) link

yknow one classic peanuts running gag that i love and that nobody ever mentions is linus's completely over-the-top fear of "queen snakes":

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/peanuts/images/2/2c/Pe660613.gif/revision/latest?cb=20131206013105

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 23:06 (two years ago) link

well that came out ridiculously small, but i guess all you need is the "AUGH!!" at the end anyway

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 23:07 (two years ago) link

God some of these are so fucking brutal it's unbelievable

In a collected edition, you can just turn the page and read a lighter strip about ice skating or something

But imagine reading some desolate Lucy bomb drop on Charlie Brown - then that's your lot, for the rest of the day

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 09:48 (two years ago) link

NB still funny, though!

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 09:48 (two years ago) link

I think this is my favourite lighthearted/cute Peanuts strip

http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/186/968/1024/Peanuts1958.10.16.jpg

soref, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 10:14 (two years ago) link

I keep worrying that these will all sell out by the time I have the money/shelfspace to collect them. I have about seven or eight volumes at the moment. Was rereading one the other night and this one was killing me.

http://www.chronicle.com/blognetwork/edgeofthewest/files/2008/11/27/244094zoom.gif

Senator Luther Strange (stevie), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 12:04 (two years ago) link

They've been pretty good about reprinting them, albeit verrrrrrrry slow. But I've found Fantagraphics to be very responsive if you write them directly asking about e.g. their plans to reprint a thing. There's also the softcover editions which are new enough that I expect they're all still in print.

I'm Calling My Loyer! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 12:12 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Schulz has no need for your "Snoopy minus Snoopy"

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 12:04 (two years ago) link


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