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It's like if Chester Brown set out to do everything Chris Ware wishes he could do, but funnier.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 24 November 2008 22:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Best book I have read all year.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 24 November 2008 22:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm sold. Where?

UEK - Big Tempin' (Oilyrags), Monday, 24 November 2008 23:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

on Fanta.

numismatic factory (sic), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 00:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

The only art comics publisher that's also a delicious fruit-flavored soda! Thx.

UEK - Big Tempin' (Oilyrags), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 00:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wow, artist dude has his own weird ongoing (color!) on-the-online epic serial.

I had never heard of him before, it was just a happy bit of serendipity at the public library finding the book. (Well not really 'serendipity' proper bcz I was looking at the graphic novels section. They get like every new book!)

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 25 November 2008 00:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I really enjoyed this book too. It felt a lot more balanced and human(e) than a lot of somewhat similar indie books by established artists, and was not mired in sadsack misanthropy, even when it went to dark places. I especially enjoyed all the stuff with the youngest sibling, and really appreciated the sister character too.

Also, gotta say, for such a huge book, I zoomed through it. Read the whole thing in two sittings.

Dr. Perpetua, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 03:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Funnily enough I also borrowed this from the library recently - really enjoyed it, some interesting new storytelling ideas/approaches - don't really see that it has that much in common w/ chris ware's work, and the artwork is nowhere near as good as ware's drawing

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 12:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

It shares the same obsessive detailing of minutiae as Ware's --- every detail of each person's backstories, all the house plans, coded letters. Certainly not the draftsmanship of Ware's drawing (which I find kind of distracting sometimes, actually --- it took me a long time to realize (and then to believe) Jimmy Corrigan hadn't been put together in Illustrator), or his extreme condensation of detail in space.

Hence the Ches comparison: same kind of thing he does (or did early on) with a lot of negative space on the page; loose placement of panels; itchy, narrow lines. Also totes had a "Ed the Happy Clown" looseness & weirdness, but matched his more intimate stuff, too. Full of those tiny one-panel surprise epiphanies that throw everything into a different perspective, esp. that one look at the youngest brother as seen from the perspective of his girlfriend. So good.

I liked that he just allowed some of the characters to be dumb, everyday dumbies without casting aspersions.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 1 December 2008 23:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Also, gotta say, for such a huge book, I zoomed through it. Read the whole thing in two sittings.

― Dr. Perpetua, Monday, November 24, 2008

Cracking the coded letters slows you down though. But anyway, great book.

RR, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

just bought, based as much on Abbott love as anything. Somebody owes me twenny fi if this sucks.

microsoft and I decided to do some t-shirts (forksclovetofu), Friday, 30 January 2009 16:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

Okay, that was great; you get a gold star again, Ms. A. Far better than anyone's first book has any right to be. I read it in the recommended three sittings and it sat just right.

I definitely saw a lot of Chester Brown and a (kinder, gentler) Joe Matt in BBB's minimalism and deceptively simple art and dialogue, but there's something really unique going on here as well. The considerable bulk of the book ultimately was beside the point; dude just wanted a big enough canvas to work on. The utter lack of pretension is refreshing and makes up for whatever small sins of narrative slackness pop up. Recommended for Jonathan Franzen or Rick Moody fans.

Probably the best thing about this is that it's never cruel, always honest and expects a lot from the reader... all qualities that I'm discovering I value inordinately in fiction (and non-fiction!) these days.

The "do-i-look-like-a-weird-frog" moment kinda floored me.

microsoft and I decided to do some t-shirts (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

I am checking this out, thanks for the recommendation!

the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Saturday, 31 January 2009 19:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not his first book, Forks (earlier ones are "Love Eats Brains," "The Mother's Mouth" and the short story collection "GoddessHead"). But yeah, he's 25 years old...

Douglas, Saturday, 31 January 2009 20:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Douglas, Fanta put those out?
25? Sheesh.

microsoft and I decided to do some t-shirts (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Love Eats Brains" was Odd God, "Goddess Head" was Meathaus, "The Mother's Mouth" was Alternative Comics. And "Body World" is going to be Pantheon.

Douglas, Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

You written about this kid on the web d?

microsoft and I decided to do some t-shirts (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 February 2009 00:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Doesn't so much deepen as accumulate. And the distancing flourishes that pop up every fifteen pages or so seem more decorative than anything. Nonetheless, pretty decent.

ALSO:
Did anyone else suspect that the Peter/Kat relationship was gonna end in a "Charlize Theron in Arrested Development season three" punchline? That would've been swell!

R Baez, Monday, 2 February 2009 19:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

All I've done so far is a review of BBB in the Wash. Post. But I'm hoping to get to write about him more soon.

Oh, and he drew a Dr. Strange story, pages of which have been circulating for a bit: http://meathaus.com/2007/05/21/may-thine-amulet-never-tarnish/

Douglas, Monday, 2 February 2009 19:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

lol o lol o lol, that's awesome.

angry pro-microwave vegetarian (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 February 2009 19:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

Body Worlds, on his website, is freaking great but it also gives me flashbacks.

i'm shy (Abbott), Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'm glad I didn't put you out of a smooth quarter-hundred, forks.

i'm shy (Abbott), Thursday, 12 February 2009 20:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

t'was a piewedge o'hundo well placed

This is a serious inquiry and there may be reprecussions (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

This came in the mail yesterday and I'm now almost halfway through and http://fluentin6months.com/images/mcdonalds.jpg

Any book that gets me to fully decode a love letter is something special.

I shall always respect my elders (Z S), Saturday, 14 February 2009 19:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Nice stuff, good recommendation. I tore through it in one long sitting tonight (still need to get around to decoding that last long letter, though). I feel like this would make a really boring, cliched arthouse indie film, but in this form it really works, especially the scattering of letters and bits of memories and minutia.

Nhex, Monday, 30 March 2009 05:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

What about arthouse indie animation?

M.V., Monday, 30 March 2009 18:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

I just don't think it would work on film, especially all those flavoring transitional/pacing scenes, the juxtapositions and timing, all that stuff. But the story itself (divorcing parents, kids forced together for one last weekend with their new families, they all have different personalities and try to work it out) reminded me of The Royal Tenenbaums especially (which do I really like) and tons of movies I can't recall offhand.

Nhex, Monday, 30 March 2009 22:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Finally got around to reading BodyWorld - really good! I'm usually kind of let down by webcomics that are Eisner-nominated or have some kind of "critical acclaim" but this was definitely a step up from BBB (which I was already impressed by) in most ways. Very interested in Shaw's other work now.

Nhex, Monday, 22 June 2009 09:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

dash shaw is one of the featured people at the ape show in san francisco this fall... kind of excited to see what he has to say.

a terrible camera... with fangs and shit... (ytth), Sunday, 28 June 2009 05:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Bodyworld, hubba 2x.

If Snotboogie always stole the money, why'd you let him play? (Dr. Superman), Sunday, 28 June 2009 17:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Bodyworld cover says NSFW on the spine. ^_^

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Monday, 2 November 2009 15:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha! well, it is nsfw!

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2009 15:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The Haunted High School

Nhex, Monday, 14 December 2009 22:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Only just read BBB (had been put off by the title, until I actualy saw the book and fell in love)--what an ace thing it is!

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 23:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Haunted High School = loooooooooooooooooooooool

Everything in life is real....EVERYTHING (Z S), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 00:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

^ troo

an terror has occurred (sic), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 01:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

hay ladeeeez:

"If I run out of money, I’ll move back to Richmond, where I paid 200 dollars a month for a shitty room, and work as a figure-drawing model again for 12 bucks an hour. I drew all of Bottomless that way, but right now I have even more time to do whatever I want. I don’t know how long it’ll last."

from http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/10987

I Endorse He-Horse (ytth), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

the back and forth with dash and david mazzuchelli in the 300th comics journal is illuminating.
dude doesn't like David B, which I am surprised by and sympathetic to; says his work looks like illuminated script.

If COMETS had horoscope they would have the SUN conjunct URANUS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

what does that mean

Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

that the pictures compliment the words instead of working with them to create a story. I get the same problem with Pope's work. It's the difference between illustrating and cartooning.

If COMETS had horoscope they would have the SUN conjunct URANUS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

i have to get cj 300. i've been putting it off, but those intergenerational interviews are a really fucking cool idea.

I Endorse He-Horse (ytth), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:50 (eight years ago) Permalink

Man I don't get that re Pope at ALL

the words can at times be pointless or lame in Pope works, but the art is never illustrating them - his storytelling is all cartooning, it's the prose that's occasionally redundant ( and rarely that, just that he's not a GOOD prose or dialogue writer [and it's usually Popey enough that you get a good effect from it that different writing wouldn't - I'm thinking here of the Bugs in THB, for eg])

PS: drunk

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

the redundancy of text is another facet of the same problem. Illustrated text can certainly be done well (Hal Foster comes to mind immediately) but it's a different animal that cartooning.

cj300 is great. Chaykin vs HChe Anderson and Matt Fraction v Denny O' Neill are great. They're all great. I find CJ's criticism and reporting preachy and near unreadable but the reprinting of classic material and industry interviews make it a must-read every month for me.

If COMETS had horoscope they would have the SUN conjunct URANUS (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 15:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

man he is SO OFF about david b. at least re. "epileptic."

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

i know you and douglas love the guy but I can't really track him.

DON'T PASS ON A SUGEBAN 4 FORKSCLOVETOFUALS I'M GRUNDLE (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm not saying you need to bow before dude like he's the burning bush -- though i would definitely class "epileptic" top ten of the decade -- but there's so much of his stuff that's dependent on the visuals to "work" that i just think shaw's way off base. but at the same time, yeah: i suspect david b. would be an equally excellent prose author, whereas i can't imagine reading a mazzucchelli or shaw _novel_ and getting as much out of it as their comics.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

(all of my david b. books are 100 miles away right now so i cant pull out specific examples so mea culpa.)

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

oh for sure.
not to be spoilery, but the "do you think you look like a frog" thing is only do-able in this medium. come to think of it, like 90% of polyp is impossible to imagine in non-comics form too.
fwiw, mazzucchelli loves david b

DON'T PASS ON A SUGEBAN 4 FORKSCLOVETOFUALS I'M GRUNDLE (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

in shaw's defense, once i sit down and read "bodyworld" in one book-sized chunk, i'll probably end up rating it above "epileptic." dude's chops as a formalist are just freaky scary for his age.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

his use of color alone just makes my head spin/heart swell. (and is -- potential heresy alert -- more radical/effective than mazzucchelli's in polyp.)

strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 23:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah that looks innaresting
i think i read the last couple from the library & don't know if a mid-length thing is going to materialise there
also the lecture z s posts upthread is really good! there's a really wonderful section where he talks about david mazzucchelli's theory of the dumb line

schlump, Thursday, 2 October 2014 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

man, know what i just remembered the other day? The Ruined Cast. his kickstarted animated feature length film (with help from frank santoro). i donated money to this back in April 2011. the last email update on it was from october 2013, and all it talked about was some other short film he was working on (not ruined cast) and the last update that even made a passing mention of the film was from january 2013. meanwhile, the website that he used to post work-in-progress stuff on - http://ruinedcast.com/ - isn't even live anymore.

i'm not sure if i finally managed to trigger this kickstarter update or not, but the other day i noticed that dash shaw finally got a twitter account, so i asked him if the ruined cast was still a thing or not. he answered "Yes but on hold. New movie with different producers is all drawn, now in editing/sound/redrawing phase. Updates forthcoming."

then, on saturday, they finally sent out an update to all the people who kickstarted the movie back in 2011:

Dear backers of The Ruined Cast,

We realize it’s been awhile since we’ve updated you, and we appreciate your patience. And we don’t want to bury the lead here — Dash is making something, audiovisual and animated, that he is very excited to share with the world.

It’ll be another project distinct from “The Ruined Cast,” with a distinct (and wonderfully distinctive!) producing team. While the creative development of “The Ruined Cast” proceeded beautifully due to the incredible, meaningful support of you, the backers, the financing of the film, as is often the case in the indie world, has taken some time.

In the midst of this, Dash has had the opportunity to make another movie, based on his own original script, that will show off the techniques and storytelling skills that have evolved over the course of developing “The Ruined Cast” (and this film will be the basis for the rewards for backers at the $25 and above levels). It’s a full-time endeavor, which requires putting “The Ruined Cast” on hold. We hope to circle back to “The Ruined Cast” after this new feature is completed (and we would of course provide that as an additional reward if it moves into production).

At its heart, the campaign was about getting Dash to the point of making his first feature — and that’s where he is right now. It's already drawn, is currently in the sound/editing phase, and he expects it to be ready in 2016 (when we said the work was painstaking, we weren't kidding!)
He couldn’t’ve gotten there without your support and patience, for which we’re deeply grateful.

We'll reveal details of the project as they're announced — we promise it will be worth the wait.

Our best regards and in deep gratitude,

Team Ruined Cast

Karl Malone, Monday, 23 February 2015 16:50 (three years ago) Permalink

in other words, you ain't getting your movie or your money back, but please give us more cash?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 05:31 (three years ago) Permalink

we don’t want to bury the lead

savages

bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:55 (three years ago) Permalink

the thing with that project is that the goals and and the rewards didn't align. they were trying to raise money to put together a pitch to financiers, but they were promising downloads of the final movie. still, it sounds like there will still be a movie, and if they do finish the ruined cast, backers will get that as well. so, it doesn't sound to me like they're doing the dreaded "this project won't happen and no one is getting refunds" update that you sometimes hear about years after the fact.

eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:15 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

fao karl malone

CLOUGH: The influences you've listed on your comics is staggeringly varied, with film being as important as any cartoonist. How does the work of non-cartoonists influence you, especially filmmakers?

SHAW: Freshman Year at S.V.A. I made a filmmaker friend named Andrew Lucido and he introduced me to a lot of great filmmakers. Tarkovsky, Kiarostami, Bruce Conner, Michael Snow, Bella Tarr, etc., and I worked at the SVA film library for three of my four school years, so I got a strong education there too, and started going to the Anthology Film Archives and stuff like that. I'm interested in beautiful sequences, different people's ideas of what a beautiful sequence is. Andrei Tarkovsky: hate the dialogue. Best to just not read the subtitles, or turn them off, if you ask me. But I love the elemental things in his movies. Water! Smoke! Fire! Just these flowing, beautiful things of nature. "BodyWorld" and "Bottomless" and all of mycomics have these things. They're already abstract, right? Water is just wavy lines. Sand is just dots. It can be drawn a million different ways. Also the "flowing" style of the sequences, like water. Someone asked Tarkovsky why there's so much water in his movies and he said "because water is the most beautiful thing in the world." I like that answer. "The Mirror" is his best. And I like that he did Science Fiction genre stories. Abbas Kiarostami: tied with Chris Ware as greatest living artist. Kiaostami's camera is like a sketchbook. He captures sequences of reality that are so beautiful, and it appears so effortless. It's as if his camera "just happened" to be there, and it "just happened" to be this beautiful unfolding of a sequence. Like Henri Cartier Bresson, only instead of catching a moment of dynamic symmetry, Kiarostami catches moments of sequential beauty. Like Chris Ware, he's obsessed with the beauty of the world. A real humanist, too.

->

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 04:43 (three years ago) Permalink

Just got New School in the mail today. Cosplayers on its way.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 04:44 (three years ago) Permalink

robert redford could be a dash shaw drawing i think

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:25 (three years ago) Permalink

Hah. Just finished Doctors. AMAZING.

dan selzer, Monday, 6 April 2015 00:32 (three years ago) Permalink

so good

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:43 (three years ago) Permalink

lol, redford is TOTALLY a dash shaw drawing.

also, thanks for that link, schlump! just seeing this now for some reason.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 15:58 (three years ago) Permalink

that's a really, really good interview (http://highlowcomics.blogspot.ca/2013/08/the-dash-shaw-interview.html)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:17 (three years ago) Permalink

Whoa - didn't know anything about it! I've been bad about following his stuff recently, or really following anyone's work. Bodyworld remains my favorite of his, by far. Has he talked about the "remastering" of it anywhere? It'll be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison with the book to see what he's changed.

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:20 (three years ago) Permalink

also just seeing this; yeah i really like reading him talk. i love that whole tangent he pursued about david mazzucchelli's dumb line. did you read doctors, yet? hey also did abbott read doctors yet. doctors is great.

+ i just bought cosplayers but haven't looked at it yet. there's a new one in the comic-book-day free comic book, too, i think.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:49 (three years ago) Permalink

I haven't read Doctors yet! ...but I just added it to my cart, so, soon. :)

Karl Malone, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:53 (three years ago) Permalink

whoa the remastered version of BodyWorld somehow even more depressing
i don't remember that last chapter / epilogue at all?

Nhex, Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Read Doctors today - great story & art. I liked BBB but this is pretty great too.

BlackIronPrison, Sunday, 19 April 2015 22:17 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

doctors maybe gonna be a movie:
http://comicbook.com/2014/10/20/doctors-graphic-novel-picked-up-by-fox-david-goyer-producing/

did anybody get his free comic book day comic? i work saturdays, it is hard to be schlump, i showed up & they were all gone, i also just read #cosplayers i & am mad to be deprived of a sequel

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:00 (three years ago) Permalink

i meant to say, i just read doctors! i kinda fell behind on his stuff but upon the last thread revive i got a copy. it's really great, one of my favorites of his. wish it was longer but that's not the worst feeling.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:16 (three years ago) Permalink

hey i am so pleased. isn't it great? i like it as much as any of the others, i think. whenever he's talked about his next book it's sounded like he's moving away from the 'dumb line' style of doctors & new school, & i'm almost sad; doctors felt so imaginative & reverberative, i think in part because it was so open & mixed up & spacy. i really hazily remember just the ambient sense of propriety in the woman at the beginning's home & life, or the weird beautiful spin off vignette of one of the guys who worked for the company walking around town thinking to himself about finding love. just so rich for something so succinct.

it's kinda greedy given that he's more prolific than other people, but i wish there was just an infinite conveyor belt of these books. i think he's concentrating on animation? did anybody see any of his animation stuff?

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 03:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Cosplayers #3 was a FCBD exclusive?!!?

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 04:00 (three years ago) Permalink

Thr third frame is so good

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 May 2015 04:34 (three years ago) Permalink

I bought #2 in America last September though

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 06:13 (three years ago) Permalink

feel bad whenever i remember i left this ^ hanging, ty for correction, i will try to find. am about to read the free comic book day story. maximum dash in my life.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 7 June 2015 00:17 (three years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I asked multiple Fanta employees if there was a way to get the FCBD book when I was back in Seattle late last year, to no avail

glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 13 March 2016 12:38 (two years ago) Permalink

Was that what happened to The Ruined Cast? I backed it on Kickstarter and never heard anything about it.

dan selzer, Sunday, 13 March 2016 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

Last update from him on it was back in February 2015,

Sorry I just saw these... I am told the producers are sending an update this weekend. Obviously there is a lot to report so I will leave it to the letter to fill in. It is still going but on hold. New animation with different producers will satisfy dvd+ rewards. New animation is all drawn, currently in sound/editing phase, but still a year away. Update forthcoming and it's more in-depth than this... Thank you,

Karl Malone, Sunday, 13 March 2016 15:28 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Cosplayers now to be a hardcover, boooo

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 02:54 (two years ago) Permalink

can't rly figure out what it is, is it the prev comics & something new or ???

1st Amendment absolutist in favor of the unltd publication of sextapes (schlump), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 03:23 (two years ago) Permalink

presumably the 2.5 existing issues + new

glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 03:31 (two years ago) Permalink

i am urging the representatives of this board to put partisan politics to one side & declare themselves Hyped for this release

there is the all-nouveau quaker thing forthcoming also

1st Amendment absolutist in favor of the unltd publication of sextapes (schlump), Tuesday, 29 March 2016 03:55 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Created by acclaimed cartoonist Dash Shaw and published this month by Fantagraphics, Cosplayers is a weird book. It’s not a paean to the creative skills of folks who make their own Batsuits and Iron Man armors, and it doesn’t use them as the butt of dork-snickering jokes, either. Originally released in single issue form from 2014 to 2016, the linked vignettes in Shaw’s new graphic novel use cosplay to explore areas where the membranes between fantasy dress-up and IRL personality tensions are most porous.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/dash-shaws-graphic-novel-cosplayers-delves-into-the-wei-1786814010

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 September 2016 23:26 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

^ i liked this + am hyped to pickup cosplayers christmas

also hey what is this v bottomless bellybutton wave sketch-
http://dashshaw.tumblr.com/image/154405575281

schlump, Friday, 30 December 2016 23:12 (one year ago) Permalink

I ordered the Cosplayers collection ages ago, was supposed to get it before xmas and got two to give one as a gift, but it's been pushed back.

dan selzer, Saturday, 31 December 2016 02:12 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

6 years ago i contributed to dash's The Ruined Cast kickstarter - his first feature animated film. today i got this update:

Hi Everyone,

Thanks so much for all of your patience!

Sometimes the path from a film’s development (which this campaign supported) to production takes unexpected turns. In this particular case, along the way to putting together The Ruined Cast, Dash had an opportunity to make another movie, also written by him, applying the techniques and lessons learned during the work that you supported.

The outcome of this campaign meets — and hopefully you’ll agree, exceeds — the bar that we intended, of Dash making his first animated feature film.

The movie is My Entire High School Sinking into the Sea, which played to rave reviews over the past several months at the Toronto International Film Festival, the New York Film Festival and Fanastic Fest. It opens on 4/14 at the Metrograph in NYC and the Nuart in Los Angeles. Dash will be at the Metrograph screenings throughout opening weekend. The other theatrical dates are listed on this site:
https://www.highschoolsinking.com/

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:24 (one year ago) Permalink

here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdGKrvM9KgE

starring...jason schwartzman? lena dunham? reggie watts? maya rudolph? and...susan sarandon??

really looking forward to this

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:25 (one year ago) Permalink

"just jump - i'm buff enough to catch you!"

lol

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:26 (one year ago) Permalink

apparently 6 years ago i backed the project at the "A limited-edition print of an image from the film suitable for framing!" level, so looking forward to getting my susan sarandon print in the mail!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:36 (one year ago) Permalink

I backed it 6 years ago too, but I got a poster already for it, printed by a guy I later ended up working with a bit.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

oh hey this is showing in my city next month, must remember to go see

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

i haven't kept up with this dude's work since bodyworld

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

Doctors and Cosplayers are both great

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:55 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll try to find some of those. probably should've made the effort to see him this weekend at the Metrograph

Nhex, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:08 (one year ago) Permalink

whoa, that's awesome forks, thanks. i've been reading through his other articles on tcj.com:

http://www.tcj.com/dash-shaw-day-one/ (discipline)
http://www.tcj.com/dash-shaw-day-two/ (cosplayers)
http://www.tcj.com/dash-shaw-day-three/ (high school sinking)
http://www.tcj.com/dash-shaw-day-four/ (u.s. premiere of high school sinking at fantastic fest)
http://www.tcj.com/dash-shaw-day-five/ (more thoughts about fantastic fest)

(i put what they're about in parentheses). they're really well written, just a casual look into his process and what he's thinking about as works on various projects. for example, this bit describing his work on high school sinking:

When I first started making longer animations (the IFC webseries I did in 2009) I would only storyboard. I’d read that that’s what Miyazaki did. He’d storyboard and then people would write scripts based on his boards. That made the most sense to me, as I believed film was primarily a visual medium (something I no longer think).

However, in order to get other people involved (like actors, and producers, and editors) I had to start writing scripts for them. I spent years writing scripts for different projects and went to the 2010 Sundance Screenwriting Labs and did a lot of back-and-forth working and reworking scripts only to have them change dramatically once I storyboarded them.

Now what I’ve arrived at is this: I write a script (which takes a year or two), show it to some people, and then storyboard it and then rewrite the script based on the storyboards. The storyboarding happens in the middle and I consider it part of the scriptwriting process. Jason Schwartzman told me that when he was offered The Grand Budapest Hotel, he was sent simultaneously the script and a private Vimeo link to a drawn animatic of the entire movie with Anderson doing all of the voices. When I heard that, it completely made sense to me… Movies are so complicated and expensive, and screenplays are difficult to decode. You have to in some way completely visualize it and have something to show to get other people involved and on the same page. Especially when you’re making an animated thing with an unusual aesthetic, it’s nearly impossible to just hand someone a screenplay of it. I was only able to get the High School Sinking cast after I had the majority of the film drawn. I was able to show producers and other people sections of the movie and say, “This is what this is — I’m making this thing and I want you involved.” Which is a completely different position than “Here’s a word document describing something I want to make.”

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 08:14 (one year ago) Permalink


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