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It's brilliant.

I know I've said that many places, but I wanted to give it its own thread. The way it's funny without usually being laugh out loud funny, the way it plays with superhero conventions (#2: the "heroes fight over misunderstanding and then team-up" trope is summoned and dismissed and furthers the plot in the space of a page and a half of a story about Jen Walters representing a guy suing Roxxon Corporation for giving him superpowers) without being precious or clever or snide about it, the way a dozen different aspects of the Marvel universe are brought in left and right without being needless namechecks or fanboy wankage -- and I think you can get the stories perfectly fine without realizing what the references are. (#2 also mentions Marvel comics being used as legal evidence because they're licensed by the various superheroes, something frequently mentioned Back In The Day and pretty much ignored during a recent fifth-week event.)

I'm definitely nominating this for Best Of 2004.

What else has Dan Slott done? Why is he not being hailed as the next Bendis?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Becuase he uses realistic dialogue, instead of Realistic Dialogue?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Also completely seconded on how great this is. Spiderman's court appearance is probably my favourite thing this year that doesn't have Grant Morrison's name on the cover.

It's great about how to use existing superstuff in new ways as well, like those comic books, or the supervillains prison.

I like the way that it takes a character whose power is hitting things, and makes it not just implicitly but explictly about not hitting things. Also there is hitting things.

Also it means that I can point young whippersnappers at it and say "This! This is what Peter David was like when he was great!"

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Why is he not being hailed as the next Bendis?

-- Tep (icaneatglas...), November 2nd, 2004.

Answers

Becuase he uses realistic dialogue, instead of Realistic Dialogue?

-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), November 2nd, 2004.

Yo ho!

Huk-l, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I look forward to reading the issues that have graced my gmail. I don't suppose there's a trade out yet?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Speaking of dialogue:

She-Hulk and Pug (normal human guy) have just been attacked by the security system at Avengers Mansion:

SHE-HULK: Ohmigosh! Are you okay?

PUG: Yeah. Feel like an idiot, though. Here I go saying how I'm gonna watch YOUR back ... and then YOU gotta save me from overgrown coat hangers.

SHE-HULK: Made out of a super-strong carbonadium alloy!

PUG: You people just MAKE UP words, don't you?

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

No trade that I've seen, but I'm not sure. Marvel puts out a lot more trades than they used to, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Hell yeah!

I'm partial to the issue that focuses on Awesome Andy, and any scene w/ Awesome Andy gets my undying approval. & the Spidey issue is the most fun the "real" Spidey's been since the days of DeFalco & Frenz.

Dan Slott wrote a recent Batman mini (something about Arkham Asylum) that got some modestly good press when it hit the stands. Other than that, I think he wrote some of the licensed cartoon books for DC - I might've mentioned it on one of the many threads where I was pimping She-Hulk.

Jordan, I think there's a trade planned in the very near future, but not sure when or if.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

(The "you people," the tweaks to comic book logic, the references to "real world precedents" vis-a-vis legal arguments in superhuman cases, sometimes it's like Harry Potter with the two coexisting but not very compatible Muggle and wizard worlds.)

Awesome Andy rules!

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Awesome Andy doing judo in the law firm gym ON HIS HEAD makes me giddy.

I imagine the lack of Bendisian kudos for Slott's work have a lot to do re: where Bendis came from (indie dahling w/ buttloads of buzz doing funnybooks) & where Slott's coming from (????). Andrew's spot on re: the difference between Slott & Bendis' dialogue.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I googled Slott and he's got stuff in What The--? and New Warriors going back to 1991! He's really been working the trenches. (And he did a Venom miniseries in 1995, so maybe he has ten years of karmic debt to work off and his star will rise next year.)

He should do a mutant book. Seriously, this kind of not-taking-it-seriously-but-not-gags stuff, with the interest in and ability to write about the obvious extrapolations of Marveliana (exponential strength in gamma form -> increase strength in normal form and reap huge benefits when Shulked out, the elegance of that still kills me) would be perfect, given all the loose ends dangling from the X-library. Not X-Men itself, but you know, a solo book or X-Force or something.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

My God I remember that Venom mini and it was bad. Very bad.

I had a sort of dull affection for the Byrne She-Hulk and even the issues Bryan Hitch drew (back when he was still an utter Davis clone) but hadn't even considered picking up the new series. Which is one of the good things about ILC. Thank you.

David N (David N.), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I have that same affection, and weirdly, it's part of why I never would have picked this one up if David R hadn't recommended it -- I figured Byrne's being good was sort of like lightning striking, and someone else trying their hand at it would be like ... um, somebody making bzzzt noises and pretending to be lightning, I guess. My analogy fell apart. But the comic is good!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Reasons I love it #56: it starts with a Chumbawamba song.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i enjoyed the issues i got in my gmail. think its also good in the whole reason as to why jen walters chose to say shulkie and forcing her out of that is interesting.

i also loved that "you pppl just make words up don't you?" (as i remember vibranium, adamantium etc.)

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link

No fourth wall nonsense eaither, but it is interesting to see how the whole think has been built around classic "build the supporting cast" tropes. She's already got a young "sidekick" (a teenage super-villain she has to act as parole officer for) a love triangle, a work rival. And nice one/two issue stories.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

It has no literal talking to the readers, but it does have related jokes, like the comic books as legally binding evidence, and Spiderman mentioning that he has twelve other places to be this month. Not just superhero comedy that happens to be in comic books, but comic book humour.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Newsarama says:

She-Hulk will end with issue #12, and relaunch with a Runaways-style marketing push.

What does that last part mean? I'm unhappy about this.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

It means they're turning the reins over to Kim Fowley.

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 November 2004 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-GAMMA BOMB!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

—:D

joan jett's real actual girlfriend (mark s), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

What does that last part mean? I'm unhappy about this.

I don't know, does it mean that they're "cancelling" it, letting digest-sized trades marinate in store for a year, and then restarting it if the sales were good enough?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 November 2004 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Hm. Well, that would be better than nothing.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Jordan's got it right, except that I think they are DEFINITELY bringing it back next year - the WW wrap-up I read mentioned that the same creative team (Slott / Pelletier or Bobillo) will be back.

I'm not sure how Marvel will solve the cancellation issue when they glut themselves out of any new break-out successes by flooding the direct market with 284,382 new titles every month.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

The thinking must be that comics aren't in competition with each other, at least not from the same publisher -- that someone who likes one Spider-Man comic will happily buy two instead of choosing between them -- but has that thinking been true in the last 10-15 years? Maybe it has, maybe the market hasn't changed as much as I think and it's just that I'm not a teenager now. I'm much more likely to drop a title now, especially if it's in favor of something else.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think that thinking CAN be true nowadays, especially with a fair number of fans leaning towards creator loyalty more than character loyalty. This market flooding would be fine (or justifyable) if Marvel were actively attempting to hit different demographics with these new titles - Jubliee & Mary Jane & Spider-Girl for the girls, Black Widow & Supreme Power & District X for the "sophisticated" super-hero fan, all the spandex Marvel Age titles for the curious manga folx, this subset for the folks that came to Marvel via the movies, this subset for the longtime Marvel Zombies - but even when they "try" to hit a niche (cf. the dopey Tsunami initiative), they either do it wrong (yeah, easy for me to say) or they cut bait before giving the new concepts a chance to take hold.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

From Shulkie editor Tom Brevoort (emphasis my own) (interview here):

"As to why the series – though very well reviewed, had a tough time finding an audience, Brevoort pointed to a couple of factors. 'She-Hulk was launched during a period in which we started up dozens of titles, so it's no surprise that it got lost in the mix. Atop that, the standard answers apply--fans and retailers were skeptical, didn't know what to make of it, and never quite got around to revising their buying patterns. Plus that old favorite song of ‘waiting for the TPB’ - which should be on sale in a week or so, and was more heavily ordered than the average Marvel trade played a role.'"

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Newfound Slott junkies: there's a 5 part Spidey / Human Torch mini coming out early next year (starting in January, I think)?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

they either do it wrong (yeah, easy for me to say) or they cut bait before giving the new concepts a chance to take hold.

Or both!

I miss Quesada's long-abandoned promise to minimize new books and especially new solo books, which he seems to have respun as "except for miniseries and really good stuff" (if your intent is just to limit output to "good comics," do you really need a promise more specific than that?) I think he gets way too much criticism, as Jemas did when he was around (and I think the criticism is mostly because he makes himself a more public figure than his predecessors did, and because no one had any real expectations of Marvel for a number of years before he stepped in), but that one's exasperating.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Slott Machine talks about She-Hulk.

"I've seriously been toying with the idea of pitching a four issue 'Awesome Andy' mini to the guys at 'Marvel Age.' Four done-in-one stories for all ages about what Awesome Andy does on his weekends and days off. Kind of like Curious George stories. Like, 'Awesome Andy Goes to the Zoo' or 'Awesome Andy and the Treasure Map.' What do you guys think?"

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got this TPB and I really dig Awesome Andy. Too bad it's only a matter of time before a Byrne-a-like wipes out all this fascinating development in favour of some retarded shite.

Vic Fluro, Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Was it Thor -- it must have been Thor -- where Titania showed up acting totally contrary to how she was being portrayed in Deadpool, where she was a regular, necessitating the reveal that she was "actually" Copycat all along? I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen with Awesome Andy. I'd be disappointed as hell, though.

Tep (ktepi), Friday, 3 December 2004 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I just got the trade too!
I've read the first story and part of the second. Holy crap is it ever good! Holy, holy crap.
I actually laughed out loud at the comic books as legal documents because of the CCA. Oh man. I hate myself for not reading this before.
This makes two Marvel books I like and they both star lawyers!

Huk-L, Friday, 3 December 2004 04:43 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
yeah, I got "Single Green Female" too, it's excellent!

jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Just wandering by - YEAH! She Hulk is GRATE! This month they DEAL with every single She-Hulk Continuity "problem" EVER with ELEGANCE and HUMOUR and BRILLIANT-NESS - the whole involvement in Avengers: SORTED, without in any way contradicting what was in that OR everything in the main series so far! Also had MUCH jokes about using comics as legal documents, also logical guest characters, also CHARACTER! DEVELOPMENT! and also a CLIFFHANGER that's PROPER.

It really is very very very good indeed - and his Spiderman/Human Torch is BRILL as well.

MJ Hibbett, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Slott's gonna be doing a JLA (not FKAJL either) run later this year!

I really like the Spidey/Torch thing, but I think it would have been better if they had run it on newsprint. I think the effects they're going for with the colouring and inking don't translate to this newfangled glossy paper.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Sounds like that JLA run might not be happening, since Slott's since signed an exclusive with Marvel, but Juan Bobillo will be returning to She-Hulk for the revamp!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4973

Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, Slott's supposed to be working on a monthly Thing series!

JUAN BOBILLO! W00T!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 21 March 2005 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

six months pass...
THREE MORE WEEKS!
preview pages!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5961

hopefully this will soothe all my Crisis Anxieties.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

can someone ysi any of this great-sounding stuff?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Did I ever complain about She-Hulk? In any case, I was wrong. It's pretty good!

Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Regarding issue #2 (of the new one): it would have been a damn sight better twist if the artist had been told beforehand that all of the jurors were supposed to be from 2004. Unless a suspiciously high number of them were into Civil War re-enactment.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...
SPOILER FOR MOST RECENT ISSUE UNLESS MOST RECENT ISSUE CAME OUT TODAY IN WHICH CASE I HAVEN'T READ IT YET

I've been excited about Two-Gun Kid showing up, because although not many people know Matt's not just a gunslinging honorary Avenger, he's also a Harvard-educated lawyer, I'm betting Slott does.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link

No doubt!

I totally thought Starfox was the Avenger-in-stasis, tho, & have had to delay my Starfox-joy for 2 months, which is surprisingly hard!

GIVE SLOTT A SPIDER-MAN TITLE PLEASE! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

DAMN IT PLEASE!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

SLOTT IF THEY OFFER A SPIDER TITLE: ACCEPT IT PLEASE DAMN IT

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Remember when Busiek had Spider-Man: The Hidden Years or whatever it was called? Slott should have something like that -- something in the 1980s Black Cat, Black Costume, Puma era, which is pretty much right before everything got weird.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, he should write an Avengers book set at that time, too, right before Roger Stern left (iirc?) -- before Dr Druid joins the team, the Wasp/Starfox/Captain Marvel/Black Knight team. With all that BK-Wasp crush action!

I think I'm just saying Slott should write all the Marvel books from the Shooter era of my childhood. Slott's Beyonder Follies! Slott's Iron Man in Red And Silver Armor! Slott's Cloud And Andromeda -- Remember Them? Guest-Starring Firebird.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:26 (sixteen years ago) link

He should just get his own imprint where he can do nothing but fill-in-the-gaps style stories like he did in Spidey/Torcho, and TY TEMPLETON PLEASE.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i want to read this stuff

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Go pick up the She-Hulk trade! Or both of them, I don't know if there's a second one out yet. The Spider-Man trial issue is still my favorite, I think.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm saying this as a guy who doesn't know from Marvel: if Slott is in-jokey, he's not at all obtrusive about it. I can kind of spot the bits where there's that winking haha-geddit humor, but it's not so specific to Marvel -- it applies to geekery in general. I started off meh on Slott too -- I got the first TPB and was kind of miffed. But for some reason, I dipped back in when the new volume launched -- might've had something to do with the Greg hr0n covers -- and I've been a solid fan of his since. (Though: Spidey-Torch I heart without reservations, independent of my feelings for Shulkie. It really is great.)

But beyond the humor in Shulk, there are some great IDEAS he comes up with! The second trade has this great setup that I won't give away: even though it might have to do with Marvel minutiae that I'm not caught up on, Slott handles it in such a graceful way that I never feel like I'm missing out on the fun(ny) and by the end, I wanted to stand up and applaud.

c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:54 (sixteen years ago) link

As a non-Marvellian, I concur.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 27 February 2006 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link

look at you!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

it's funny, i got all excited when i saw the word "sadfaces" and before i saw the byline

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Do the words secret identity mean nothing to you!?!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Not so much s1ocki as si1ke!

c(''c) (Leee), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link

so despite some initial skepticism i picked up she-hulk tp#1 yesterday and... well... i'm happy to say i loved it! i haven't read a comic this purely... how do i put it... breezily enjoyable in a long time (esp having just been reading bendis daredevil, which is like she-hulk's darker longer lawyer comic mirror image).

i really really liked that many of the stories in the volume were one-issue wonders! i guess i've gotten used to extremely drawn-out plot arcs at this point (viz daredevil again... which is like the slowest arc ever... although i dig that too) so there's something really refreshing about it. i've always been on the fence in terms of narrative compression (largely because grant morrison is always getting props for it & i tend to think that despite his other skillz he's not very good at it) but it really works here. or maybe this isn't "compression" at all but just old-school comix storytelling.

also: funny!

also: i love the art! guess i better not get used to it huh

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

also i don't really think he writes realistic dialogue OR Realistic Dialogue. he very much writes comedy dialogue (capitalize if you like), he just does it well.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 5 March 2006 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I think Slott is basically just a good modern version of old school fun comics writing. He's really good with the old trick of pushing the story along, but making every issue fully enjoyable as a comic that you can jump into without ever having read it before, or going on to the next issue.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Sunday, 5 March 2006 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

totally agree. it really makes me feel like i've gotten my money's worth!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 5 March 2006 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

so of course i rushed out and bought tp#2 cuz i'm sick like that and... i didn't like it as much. i think i prefer his one-issue stories! also the change of artist didn't help. but i will give it another shot for sure.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You didn't like the boxing??? Heathen!

c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

actually i did like that!

i think i wasn't as DELIGHTED with everything, which may have to do with

1) having read the first tp it's less novel
2) i kinda felt like shit last night
3) so i'm going to read it again

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

4) also miss the old artist

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the boxing, but it was the first She-Hulk I happened to read.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Also nothing as good as the Spiderman joke.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Which one?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Is it becuz I am black.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

That was AWESOME.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Does Slott write his own solicits?
SHE-HULK #9
Written by DAN SLOTT
Penciled by PAUL SMITH
Cover by GREG HORN
"My SPOILER with SPOILER"
Read SHE-HULK #8 yet? Bet you didn't see THAT coming, didja? Wild, huh? Spiraling out of the end of last issue's CIVIL WAR crossover, She-Hulk's life will NEVER be the same again! Sure, OTHER books SAY that all the time. But when have WE ever said it over in the SHE-HULK book? Really. Trust us, WE'RE good for it.
So... After She-Hulk and SPOILER went and SPOILERED, it's time to deal with the fall out! And that leads to a SPOILER with SPOILER!!! Miss this one, and you'll be kicking yourself in the CENSORED for months!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I think most Marvel writers write their own solicits - I read some Nanorama article a while back where Ed B copped to writing solicits for upcoming issues of Captain America.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Along those lines: I hope Mr. Aguirre-Sacasa didn't actually write the solicit for Spider-Man, because "blood-pounding" is some bullshit.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Just started reading the Dan Slott run of She-Hulk. So unbelievably good! So funny, subtle, great characterization; argh the greatness of this comic

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"...after some very serious thought and soul-searching, I think I've figured it out. The real reason Jonah Jameson hates me... is because I'm black."


ROFLS!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:34 (sixteen years ago) link

GET THEE ONE (1) SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH: I'M WITH STUPID JUGHEAD-SIZED DIGEST!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I MIGHT HAVE TO GET THIS TODAY!!! (the torch/spidey digest i mean)
(i want to get the first two shulkie trades before i get this one.)

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

get it dude!!! it's so great. i actually prefer it to she-hulk.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Why doesn't Marvel let Slott write regular Spidey? Or regular Fantastic Four even?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

If I ever had a daughter, her name will be She-Hulk obviously is a sane, intelligent lawyer and under no obligation to volunteer potentially self-incriminating information.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:She-Hulk I also removed a reference under the Powers section referring to her "capacity for love and understanding" as her greatest super-power.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Why doesn't Marvel let Slott write regular Spidey? Or regular Fantastic Four even?

they should!! or ultimate for that matter, why not?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

1) Because that'd really cut into JMS' paycheck.
2) Because having 2 "fun" Spidey titles in the regular Marvel Universe (I'm counting PAD's as "fun") would be one too many.
3) Because editorial dictates are Slott's Kryptonite.
4) Because he thinks Spidey's new costume is pants.
5) Because he's slated to start work on a Marville relaunch.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link


5) Because he's slated to start work on a Marville relaunch.

???

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a joke, son; you're supposed to laugh.

Foghorn L. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

HULK SAD
http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/fans/tyler-warren-2-s.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

is slott alan grant writing lobo?

meh.

molly (bulbs), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:37 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Now I really regret not nominating JJJ for the best characters poll. I don't know why this constantly delights where the Thing just occasionally amused, but it really does.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that issue is pretty hilarious. I'm a fan of the drink-spittin' page.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Morris Walters being her dad, of course (I didn't get this first time)

There's a lot of talk about his Spiderman above, and I like the way that his JJJ is the opposite - a lot of dumb and crazy stuff has happened to Peter Parker over the last 40 years, so you basically have to pick and choose or end up burying him under the weight of it. Whereas with JJJ the more you pile on the funnier.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

That's sort of the advantage of supporting cast vs. stars.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
The issues with Starfox were great!!

jel --, Sunday, 25 February 2007 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

B, I, WEN-DI-GO!, c/d?

Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

D'ya even have to ask??

Leee, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Slott's last issues were funny!

Jordan, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Should I continue this thread to talk about the Tas Mas vehicle. Or go to MCU.
Anyway, quite deeply fun. I do like a bit of Tas Mas. She's awfully good. & I'm sue she loves being called Tas Mas .
Well anyway, glad this is another good tv show from Marvel.
Was i seeing a LatinX element in the credits. Interesting if so.

Stevolende, Friday, 19 August 2022 09:34 (one month ago) link

THat is to say, looking at end credits I was thinking there was LatinX presence in the crew etc, & pretty female.
Which is good.
Hoping that inclusivity and actual diversity is rising. I was watching a lot of the Film Fatales webinars a couple of years ago which seemed to indicate it was. not sure how clear a lens that would be though. May be its own gaze or something.

Now seeing that Head Writer is Asian American. which is cool in itself.

Stevolende, Friday, 19 August 2022 09:57 (one month ago) link

Anyone been reading the current (Rainbow Rowell) series? I preordered the Vol. 1 trade on spec… been itching to read something new, and it sounded potentially good.

Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Sunday, 21 August 2022 01:03 (one month ago) link


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