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Just because it seems to be superteam day on ILC!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The issue where Wonder Girl angsts over the kids taking Teh Heroin is the sort of comic that makes Bad Tom laugh a lot (but also feel oddly nostalgic).

Mostly bad, I am surprised I bought it. I am doubly surprised that the main period I bought it was that (VERY VERY) long storyline where the mute blond guy betrayed them by teaming up with villains who dressed as bison-men.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've never actually read the Teen Titans, but again, I would if Arseface was a member.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think I've only come across them in Batman books when Robin whines about it, i.e. "But I don't WANNA go to the Teen Titans meeting, I wanna hang out with YOU!"

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh god, Jericho was the plant in the whole Wildebeest thing?
I was buying it at the start, and then all the Titans from the future started showing up, and I was just like "Holy shit, is this ever lame!"

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes that was what they were called. I mean if I was forming a secret super-society designed to do evil my first thought would also be to name it after the wildebeest.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Recieved wisdom is that they were the reference case for a writer starting out great and with no outwards pressure, just losing the plot. I may have recieved this wisdom before it became clear that Claremont had lost it, though he had the excuse of overexposure and a ballooning case.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I like how they waited TEN YEARS to confront Speedy over his drug use.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hahahaha!

I think Tempest has gotten the best makeover of the originals.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And how nobody's supposed to know Batman's Bruce Wayne, yet everyone knows that Nightwing/Robin is Dick Grayson.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

xpost

Aqualad vs Robin in BATTLE OF THE SHORT SHORTS!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/early/ttbb54a.jpg

"Fellows"??????

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I am amazed that every issue of Teen Titans didn't end with Speedy and Kid Flash holding Robin down and punching his nose out of the back of his neck.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

http://www.titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/early/garg.jpg

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

xpost,

Dan, that's actually pretty much how the latest issue of the Outsiders ends, except they've all got their grown-up names now!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

REALLY???? Wow, I should totally be reading that.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 15:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and there was no Flash, but Arsenal and Nightwing's fisticuffs were broken up by the sudden and shocking!!! arrival of Starfire!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Also - there's android girl / shape-shifting purple/orange guy love.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Was the shocking part that Kory showed up and didn't try to eviscerate anyone?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:53 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

!!

(I haven't read the latest Outsiders yet, can't find a damn parking spot. What the hell's Starfire doing there?)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

She's joining the team! SHOCKING!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, she's in CHARGE of the team! Even more shocking! (The other members broke bread while Arsenal & Nightwing had their slapfight, and decided to boot the Testosterone Twins from off their perch.)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

We told you it was SHOCKING!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:10 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Are Arseface and Dickwing kicked off the team, or do they just have to take orders now?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They have to wear DUNCE caps and suck on pacifiers.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Dickwing! Duck!"

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Arrrgh I have to get this issue.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 17:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I thought Jade was leading the team? Maybe I'm confused?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't mean to spoil the end for you, Tep, as I thought you'd already read it. Sorry!

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Nah, don't worry, this is just how it's gonna be until Christmas break, I think. Severe parking shortage, and it's too far from campus for our spiffy faculty permits to do us any good. I don't mind being spoiled on anything below the "holy crap, Ned Leeds is the Hobgoblin!" level.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

NED LEEDS IS THE HOBGOBLIN?!?!?!??!?!???!!!?!

?!?!?!?!??!?!?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

He was! Until they decided to reveal that the real Hobgoblin only made it SEEM like it was Ned Leeds (but I think this was an actual out-of-story reconsideration, not a red herring that had been planned all along, since they'd already done a "Flash Thompson is the Hobgoblin!" fake-out where Flash was briefly framed).

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(I was being ironical & incredulous - the Hobgoblin's secret identity was an ongiong concern for my pudgy adolescent self.) (& I thought I heard the Ned Leeds thing was a hasty editorial decision that was later rectified - am I right that they offed Ned in that Spider Man / Wolverine one-shot AND revealed him to be Hobby @ the same time?, then changed it up in in ASM #289 to show that Hobby was actually the former Jack O'Lantern?) (What the hell?)

BETTY BRANT IS THE HOBGOBLIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(That's exactly right, I think -- although I don't remember where it happened. And yeah, I think the 'it's really Jack O'Lantern!' thing was some crazy way to tie all of the Halloween-themed villains together, like when Byrne's Barber Of SeVILLAINS miniseries finally explained why the Sandman and the Osborn family all have the same haircuts, and how they all became supervillains because of the barber who used to molest them and train them to be sleeper agents.)

JOHNNY DAMON IS THE HOBGOBLIN!??!?!?!?!!!??!!!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

AUNT MAY IS MADAME WEB>!??!?#?>#:LDS(@?@??SL

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Marv Wolfman would roll over in his waterbed if he read this thread.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 19:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

MARV ALBERT IS THE WOLFMAN?!!?!?!?!???!!!!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Okay, what is the difference between The Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, and Jack O' Lantern and who thought it would be a good idea to have a whole bunch of interchangeable villains?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They were probably just trying to catch the colorists napping.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I want to see the story where they bolt them all together, Voltron-style, to form a giant Goblinbot.

Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hobgoblin was a deliberate Green Goblin clone, at least -- he found the (briefly dead) Green Goblin's stuff and stole it so he could be a super crime guy, but rocked the hoodie to show his individuality. Jack O'Lantern, though, I barely remember him showing up here and there before the sudden "oh yeah, by the way, I'm the Hobgoblin too" thing.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Any relation to the Jack O'Lantern of Global Guardians "fame"?

Huk-L, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Marvel's Jack O'Lantern was some two-bit thug that got ahold of some pumpkin bombs & some other Osborntech - he had some wangtastic pogoing platform (in lieu of a Goblin Glider).

The best thing about the Hobgoblin (prior to the big "reveal") - just like the way Lee employed the GG, Hobgoblin was USED SPARINGLY.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

JOL got ahold of Osborntech, too? JEsus, they really drove that "Osborn kept secret caches all over the city!" thing a little hard. And of course, the caches were only found by potential supervillains, never teenagers who decide to become superheroes but blow their hands off with pumpkin bombs or something.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I THINK so - I don't know of any place I could double-check that, but it's the only "sensible" explanation for how some two-bit thug acquires a POGOING PLATFORM. Either that, or he ripped off some Q*Bert-inspired gadgetry from Atari.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In their almost-but-not-quite defense, I think the use of Osborntech caches was some kind of compromise to keep themselves from bringing Norman back. Between that and Harry going nuts all the time (just for the hell of it, not because of his brother in law being made out of lava), the Spider-editorial department was frickin obsessed with the Goblin and all his trimmings.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

he had some wangtastic pogoing platform

Oh my God. I love comics.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Coming soon from the House of Ideas - Liz Allen becomes the GOBLINETTE!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I love SpiderFan.org:

Equipment: Macendale had a glider which looked like a "sombrero". He also had a very hard helmet, which Spidey enjoyed punching.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That episode of Teen Titans was AWESOME!!!!! (Almost as awesome as CHK'N KAU)

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Johns OUT: Beechen IN
I might start reading this again!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Ha - I was about to post the link! I might give it a shot, too (for giggles)! Love all the "aw, shucks" posts you-know-where.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"so when does Johns go back to Marvel?

Come back and make some sense of the Marvel U., Geoff.."

bwah-ha-ha!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

"Oh fuck, I just brought Jericho back. Now I'll have to do something with him. Or I could quit and write All-Star Batgirl! EUREKA!"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

vs "Oh fuck, now Wally's a dad. How am I going to write that? WHO WANTS A CRISIS???"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

vs. "Oh crap, Donner's just handing me production notes from his Superman movies, I guess I'm writing Action by myself!"

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

My son loves the Teen Titans cartoon. There was one episode I watched with him with this British bad guy who turned the whole world into London on bad acid or something, it was surprisingly psychedelic.

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Can I watch cartoons w/ your son??

c(,,c) (Leee), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Adam Beechen wrote the Mad Mod episode!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:40 (eleven years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

everything about this issue makes me lol

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TO4DMQaGPGk/VcqE6CUabfI/AAAAAAABL_k/X7jymyv7r3Y/s1600/teen%2Btitans%2B048-00fc.jpg

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 18:08 (three years ago) Permalink

Remember how many of us read The Outsiders, which was the Red Hood & the Outlaws of its day.

OOOoWoOo (Dr. Superman), Thursday, 27 August 2015 15:03 (three years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Comixology has started releasing Wolfman's Vigilante series from the 80s - worth a read?

Duane Barry, Monday, 13 June 2016 23:12 (two years ago) Permalink

It is, as they say, grim n gritty

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 02:09 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

AHHHHHHHhahahahahahahahahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5dIwGAYcWk

Eliza D., Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:05 (four months ago) Permalink

did... did i just watch robin shoot a bunch of guys?

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:09 (four months ago) Permalink

it's nuts the lengths dc/warners are willing to go to in order to do everything except create a straight-up batman or superman tv show btw

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:10 (four months ago) Permalink

Emo Lilith! If this is a Berlanti show, expecting the same 1:25 glorious : banal/inconsistent/illogical ratio as the other DC shows. Plus extra glowering, hair tucking, and stubble.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Emo Raven, oops.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:22 (four months ago) Permalink

Fuck Batman, y’all

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 20 July 2018 03:02 (four months ago) Permalink

god i wish

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 20 July 2018 07:13 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

http://collider.com/titans-review

In DC Universe’s Titans, Dick Grayson (Brenton Thwaites) stabs a guy in the balls with a pair of garden shears. Unfortunately, the powers that be say I have to write more than that sentence about Titans, but I do truly think every aspect of this show—its tone, its aesthetic, its story, its themes—boil down to the image of Dick Grayson, the original Robin, Boy Wonder, charming vigilante do-gooder, plunging a gardening tool into another man’s crotch.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Thursday, 4 October 2018 13:43 (two months ago) Permalink

do not want

shrek and han solo kinda dress the same (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 October 2018 13:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Why does WB think that every DC hero is the Punisher?

Werther Down the Spiral (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 October 2018 13:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I have not seen any of the cartoon but I saw the movie and it was incredibly delightful, so it seems especially insane to have another TV version of the same property out in the same year with such a horrific and dumb dumb dumb tone

Stab my hinge, get hit (sic), Thursday, 4 October 2018 16:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I enjoy watching Teen Titans Go! with my kids, but get the feeling from the previews that I'm more likely to be the target audience of Go to the Movies than they are. The live action show's a non-starter.

Vernon Locke, Friday, 5 October 2018 04:40 (two months ago) Permalink

I presume the cold clammy hands of Geoff Johns here

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 5 October 2018 19:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Imagine your movie universe failing as badly as it is then thinking this was a good idea

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 5 October 2018 19:43 (two months ago) Permalink

My son was watching "Teen Titans Go!" the other day; I saw a scene where they were all sitting around the table and decided to see if they could have a political discussion without arguing. Robin encourages Cyborg: "Go ahead, state a political opinion." I thought it would sort of end there (no way would they actually get into anything political) -- but Cyborg says, "OK... um, I think the government should make sure as many people as possible have what they need to live" (or something like that). Then everything explodes, everyone yelling at once -- Robin: "WHAAAT? And enrich the FAT CARS in Washington?!"; Starfire: "How you dare you disparage obese felines!"; etc.

I'm not a huge fan of what I've seen of the show (it's cute but a little too frenetic), but I thought it was interesting that it actually got that "real" with that particular gag.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Friday, 5 October 2018 19:56 (two months ago) Permalink

*Whoops, it was "FAT CATS" (not "cars")

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Friday, 5 October 2018 19:57 (two months ago) Permalink

cartoon is fun to watch w my kids, movie was "eh", this new series will suck shit

Οὖτις, Friday, 5 October 2018 20:40 (two months ago) Permalink

Why isn’t Cyborg in the series? Because he’s already in the JLA movies? Or they just couldn’t make a cyborg outfit work on a TV budget?

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

(For that matter, why isn’t Donna Troy in these TV versions of the Titans?)

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:46 (two months ago) Permalink

teenagers fucking divorced middle-aged professors not as heartwarming a plotline in 2018

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:21 (two months ago) Permalink

tv series does often crack me up, and i never will not enjoy the stupid perseverativity (?) of painbot. i mean...all it know is pain.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink

oh god terry long xp

the horror

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Got really into the original cartoon about 10 years ago. So watched the new film a couple of days ago. Some of it was quite amusing.
Thought it was aiming for some of the same humour as the Lego animations I've seen .

Stevolende, Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I just looked up the history of Donna Troy origins/retcons; what a f'ing mess.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:39 (two months ago) Permalink

Can never understand why comics are hard to get into for new readers:

Donna Troy has now discovered that like every other person after the Crisis on Infinite Earths, she is a merger of every alternate version of Donna Troy in the Multiverse. Unlike everyone else, Donna is the repository of knowledge of every alternate universe version of herself and remembers the original Multiverse.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:40 (two months ago) Permalink

comics are easy to get into for new readers, Raina's two new books have first print runs of 500k and 1mm

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Raina?

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Telgemeier.

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:15 (two months ago) Permalink

Can never understand why SHITTY comics are hard to get into for new readers

fixed

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:18 (two months ago) Permalink

my kids don't have any trouble grasping comics. continuity is for morons.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:19 (two months ago) Permalink

(In 2016 - the last time she had a new release - 21,000 comic titles were sold through bookstores. 5% of all dollars exchanged were for Telgemeier books: the #1, #2, #4 and #5 bestsellers for the year were her own work, and #6, #7, #10 and #11 were work-for-hire by her. As most of her work (and all of these books) is on Graphix, those figures are only a small minority of her overall sales to readers.)

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:27 (two months ago) Permalink

my daughter loves her stuff

Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:45 (two months ago) Permalink

That's cool, but do any of her characters have backgrounds like this?:

After Donna Troy is killed by a fleet of Superman androids reprogrammed by Brainiac, she is resurrected by the Titans of Myth, who seek to exploit her status as an "anomaly" from the world that existed before Crisis on Infinite Earths to escape the coming cataclysm of Infinite Crisis. This story establishes Donna's status as an anomaly of the timeline, explaining that she survived the Crisis and was later subjected to multiple alternate origins as the universe tried to fit her into the new timeline created following the collapse of the Multiverse. This makes Donna in effect "a living key to the lost Multiverse." This same storyline also reveals that Dark Angel is an evil alternate universe version of Donna from Earth-Seven. Another pre-Crisis survivor, she "was saved by the Anti-Monitor, and raised to be his harbinger of doom, Dark Angel. But Dark Angel was uncontrollable, and vanished."

Within a short time after 2011's The New 52 reboot that followed the Flashpoint story, DC had already presented two conflicting new origins for Donna Troy in the pages of Wonder Woman and Titans Hunt. In the first case, she is introduced as a new character: magical golem, ruthless warrior, and challenger to Wonder Woman's status as leader of the Amazons. She later goes on a journey of discovery. In Titans Hunt, this same Donna, alongside other former Teen Titans, rediscovers memories of childhood heroism with the Teen Titans, which should be impossible for her. In the DC Rebirth relaunch, Donna has a fuller set of childhood memories restored to her after meeting the pre-Flashpoint Wally West. In the DC Rebirth relaunch of Wonder Woman, the storyline "The Lies" reveals that the savage depiction of Thymiscira and the Amazons in the New 52 Wonder Woman series in which Diana is made the Queen of the Amazons and the God of War and has Donna Troy reinvented as a mass-murdering villain is, in fact, an illusion by the Olympians to keep her away from the real island. A later Titans story clarified that Donna is still a magical golem created to destroy Wonder Woman, with fake memories granted by the Amazons.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 19:53 (two months ago) Permalink

they're mostly about tween girls, maybe she'll get around to that in future volumes

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 20:32 (two months ago) Permalink


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