The Jeff Smith/Bone Appreciation Thread

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No question about its classicness, and a thread about it on ILX has been long overdue.

Leee Majors (Leee), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 06:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Has it ended yet? I haven't touched it for a couple of years, because it kept gradually getting worse and worse. The first issues were great, combining Barksian cuteness with this ominous sense of darkness lurking behind it. However, as the high fantasy element took hold of it, the plot turned out to be both cliched and muddled. It sometimes felt as if Smith was inventing the whole background story as he went along, not bothering to check whether the current issue is in coherence with the previous ones - quite often it wasn't. It still had it's moments (Rockjaw for example), but I'm afraid to read it 'til the end and be even more disappointed. Smith should've sticked to the cuteness, which really was his forte, not the inflated fantasy style.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 09:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tuomas OTM except I wasn't 100% sold on the first issues, the Barks influence was refreshing though and the story seemed pacy. Mind you I always liked the first 100 pages of big fantasy doorstops when the simple farmboy IS just a simple farmboy better than the other 1100 pages where he turns out to be the Chosen One.

I think Bone is kind of salutary though in that it's plainly what Cerebus would have turned out like if Dave Sim had done what some readers wanted and Told The Story Properly And Explained Things. Not that I think how Cerebus DID turn out is any good - but it's probably more interesting.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 11:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry Lee if we ruined your appreciation thread, but Bone's classicness isn't as unquestionable as you think. Still, I'd be interested to hear whether it has already ended, and whether it got any better towards the end?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 13:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's a good thing I'm bored.

Bone #53: 19/11/2003
Bone #52: 8/10/2003
Bone #51: 2/4/2003
Bone #50: 27/12/2002
Bone #49: 9/10/2002
Bone #48: 10/7/2002
Bone #47: 8/5/2002

Bone #45: 31/10/2001
Bone #44: 6/9/2001
Bone #43: 5/7/2001
Bone #42: 2/5/2001
Bone #41: 21/2/2001


Bone #38: 2/8/2000
Bone #37: 28/7/1999

I didn't realise it was three-and-a-half years since the big hiatus.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 13:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think there are two issues left if what I remember that it ending at 55 is correct. I actually agree with you about the dip in quality post-"Great Cow Race." The first two volumes are absolute high points, no question, just in how charming and love-filled the stories and characters are (greedy Bone excepted).

I will say that the latest volume (no. 8, "Treasure Hunters") was a great recovery from the blandness that preceded it. e.g. Thorn stopped being an almost-comatose zombie, and the periphery villagers became more than peanut gallery types. Jeff Smith re-emphasized the characters instead of plot devices and gimmicks (hello ghost circles!).

Leee Majors (Leee), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 22:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
I've read very little, mostly around the time of the Great Cow Race; it reminded me (in a good way) of Li'l Abner, which I should relocate and reread so I can start (or revive) a thread on it.

But anyway, dig this: The complete 1300-page epic adventure, from start to finish, in one deluxe paperback!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 18:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

MY GOD.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 23:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, exactly. I thought the Ultimate Spider-Man omnibus was a good deal, but this? I've already asked for it for my birthday.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What am I going to do with the rest of my Bone (7 vols)??

Leeebay (Leee), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Keep it for more portable reading -- or donate it to the library!

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:15 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The library already has like two copies of each volume! I think a guerilla ebay strike might be in order. Though I'm probably too lazy to bother. The giganto-trade doesn't look durable, ain't no soft-spine can handle any amount of handling, so maybe you're probably right about keeping the regular volumes.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You can also use my this-is-my-third-longterm-relationship perspective: you never know when you'll end up breaking up with someone who wants to keep some of your comics, at which point it's handy to have spares.

(Do you have any idea how many times I've bought Labyrinth?)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Haha. If my girlfriend and I were ever to break up, there would be comics issues.

How expensive is this (and how much does it weigh?!)?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

$40! That's the thing, that's like ... well, fuck not sounding geeky, that's like the price of the Forgotten Realms supplement for D20, except it's 1300 pages. I don't know if it's super cheapass newsprint or something, though. But really it'd be worth that price even if I only read it once.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(Or to put it another way: that's the price of 400 pages of comics-fresh-off-the-shelf.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Taking any three volumes of Bone, the total is already more than $40, and that there are ultimately 9 books = WHY OH WHY DIDN'T I WAIT.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Thursday, 20 May 2004 00:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

me too!

i had to give up cos i was broke at 43...and now...and now...

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

pretty good article on bone (the good points and bad points) here: http://www.tcj.com/3_online/w_review_bone.html

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:26 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I want to talk about the final volume but has anyone else read it before I start breaking out the spoilers?

One non-plot thing I can mention is that the art is, surprisingly, the worst of the whole Bone run.

The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Monday, 19 July 2004 05:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Revive

I'm halfway through the one volume edition of Bone (What is that? Like, page 600 or something?) and I have to post something about it before I finish: THIS IS SO GOOD. It's funny and sad, exciting and scary. I just, I can't get over it. I can't put it down. And this HUGE volume is dangerous because I'm constantly saying to myself, "Just one more chapter... Okay, just one more and then it's sleepy time... Eh, I'll be a bit late to work tomorrow, just one more chapter..."

Please, so spoliers yet. I'll hopefully finish it by Monday...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't read any Bone. I know I will, I'm just working up to that kind of committment. Is the humungo volume available in stores, or was a very limited edition sort of thing?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It should be in stores, though many of them got shorted due to Jeff Smith's poor forecasting of demand. I suspect a second printing will be rushed out ASAP, but have no idea when it'll hit.

I'm kicking myself for not getting one of the hardcovers. I'm a big fat dope.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't know it was available in hardcover. Amazon has it as a "pre-order." ... Eh... When did come out?

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The hardcover made its debut at the San Diego Comic Con. jeff Smith utterly mis-forecast demand and he sold out of the hardcover on Friday night, I think. I don't know the HC is going to be reprinted (I'd check Jeff's site, don't have it offhand.)

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I heard November. (I think according to the Cartoon Books booth people.) Likewise, I'm kicking myself for not getting the HC.

Vermont Girl, I'd be interested to hear what you think of the art in the final chapter.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The HC, for those interested, retails for $125, is gold-leafed, has a special autographed & numbered thingy (I think it's advertised as a "plate" but from what I could see, it was a piece of white cardboard or sommat) and is VERY PRETTY PRETTY PRETTY.

Meanwhile, would anyone like a softcover edition (which according to boneville.com should be back in print on/before Aug 31) with a cute bone sketch on the inside?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Does no one else find Bone, whilst certainly very accomplished, somewhat twee? I've only read the first three trades, so maybe it gets less so.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

So is #53 the last issue?

Dan i., Wednesday, 25 August 2004 23:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

#55 is the final issue.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

btw, if anyone doesn't want to wait for the restock of the Giant Bone Softcover, I'm willing to part with it.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Lee(eee), I've gmailed you about it.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I finished it!! I loooooooved it! [SPOILERS]

My comic seller said to me, "When you get to the end, let me know what you think..." Like, there was going to be some huge cop-out ended (i.e. 'The universe explodes in on itself.' or 'And then Bone woke up.'), but I thought it was a very sweet, appropriate ending.

I loved so many of the characters. I think I liked Bartleby the best. I was really happy to see him again. When he ran off from Smiley and Fone, I was thinking, "[sniff] I hope Bartleby shows up in the story again..." Smiley was really funny. I liked those two rat creature that kept popping up. Saying scary things like, "Prepare to die, small mammal!" The talking about quiche. So funny.

I give it ten out of ten stars.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Did anyone else notice Kingdok didn't seem to have a problem talking at the end of the story? Wasn't his, um, tongue missing? He was having trouble talking before...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, and I can't believe ALL OF IT happened in one year. Damn. It was toally epic. You guys thought it was epic, right? Exciting? Touching?

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 30 August 2004 12:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

But what about the art in the "Crown of Horns" book? I thought it was very and unusually off. The ending otherwise was excellent, though apropos to JD's link from way above, I'd hoped that ***SPOILER BIT HERE*** Fone Bone had stayed to demonstrate his capacity for growth ***SPOILER ENDS*** but oh well.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 30 August 2004 22:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

How was the art different in "Crown of Horns"? I didn't notice... I will check at home tonight. ***SPOLIER*** I was sad to see the Bones go back home (I actually hoped they would ALL stay in the Valley and live happily ever after), but I think it makes sense. There are no lady Bones for them to settle down with and I highly doubt Fone and Thorn would have been able to pro-create. ***END***

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The art was different mostly in the way Jeff drew Thorn (since, drawing the Bones isn't all that hard -- he did a passable Fone Bone while blindfolded once). In the "Treasure Hunters" book, her Jolly Rancher-sized (i.e. wide, sort of rectangular) eyes had fine lashes. But in "Crown of Horns" she had very round, cartoonish eyes, and some other human characters also were a little underdrawn, which made me think that Jeff was under the gun in the final few months of Bone.

Oh oh and ***SPOILER*** was the Jeff handled the scene where Granma realizes that Lucius is dead great or what? ***END***

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A-a-and did you find "Ghost Circles" to be the weakest book? (Finally some fannish Bone talk! ILC is finally complete!)

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Man, my copy just came in the mail right alongside the Star Wars DVDs and a case of Pepsi Blue -- and I just yesterday picked up the last Dark Tower book and the paperback edition of Stephenson's Quicksilver. How great is my week?

(I'm not going to have time for new comics until October!)

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 21:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Help me find the hardcover one volume!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 23 November 2004 06:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I finally picked up the last volume, and have started from the beginning. I'd forgotten how completely terrifying the running around in the night and the lightning and the woods full of hairy men was.

My vague impressions of the middle books (the one or two after Rock Jaw ie the last I read) was that it turned into Episode I: enough with the running around and being exciting, I bet you're all wondering how the bureaucracy works.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm, I'd read more than I thought: I remembered everything up until half-way through Treasure Hunters, though some of it was quite vague due to dullness.

I was reading the last volume thinking "I wonder how this is going to distinguish itself from the LOTR conventions it's digging into... Oh. It isn't. In any way." So that kind of sucked. I thought the art was pretty good all the way through, I was struck by how during the bathing scene with both Fone and Phoney Bone where they're both "naked", they're still clearly themselves.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jeff Smith Goes to School
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2005-05-03-educational-comics_x.htm

Huk-L, Thursday, 5 May 2005 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
I finally read my galley of vol. 1 last night. I expected to be put off by the cutesyness, but I really enjoyed the whole thing.

So now I guess I may as well plunk down for the giganto collection, even though the consensus seems to be that it doesn't get better than the beginning?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 September 2005 19:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Aw sweet, Maddie just reminded me that we have a borrowed copy of the complete Bone sitting in our apartment!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Consensus can take a flying one. The tone shifts dramatically from fun and cute (which doesn't ever cross into cloyingly twee territory) to LOTR-style battles, sieges, hairy men, mysticism and so on, which, my never having read LOTR or seen ROTK, is still quite riveting. There is, however, a big drop off in the art in the last volume. That's what I sez, anyway.

Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If you have, however, seen/read "Lord Of The Rings", or in fact any epic fantasy at all, don't bother with this. I mean, I'm totally an epic battle FITE kinda guy, but most of the latter "Bone" is just dull dull dull exposition and painfully generic characters/situations.

First batch of volume's still great, tho.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 08:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I liked it. A lot. The whole thing. It's funny, Disney meets LotR meets Evil Dead wrapped in an enigma, baked in an adventure and microwaved in a mythical epic.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm halfway (almost exactly) through the complete Bone, and I'm really enjoying it. It probably helps that I'm not expecting groundbreaking plotting or ideas thanks to this thread, but he gets by just fine on style and charm.

It's a fun feeling to go through something that reads so quickly yet there's so MUCH of.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 17:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, even if it is a LOTR-style thing, the charm never really goes away

dave k, Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

I'm 3/4s through (in the big city to the south bit). It is beginning to lose a bit of the fun that was in the beginning - I definitely miss all the hand-lettering he was doing at the beginning. I suppose anyone who sets out to write a saga winds up feeling as if it's a bit of a chore by the end, and it's bound to come through in the work. The hooded one was so much spookier with the hood on, too. what happened to all the little forest animals?

El Tomboto, Friday, 14 March 2008 21:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

The last volume didn't end up being so bad as I feared in my first post in 2004, but neither did the series really return to the charm of the first three books. I really think it was a mistake Smith embraced the epic fantasy full on and mostly abandoned the cutesy stuff (like the little forest animals), when it was the mixture of those two that made the series so special in the first place.

Tuomas, Sunday, 16 March 2008 09:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was really hoping for an epilogue section myself. "Roderick and the possums opened a lemonade stand, Bartleby became the sheriff of Boneville" etc etc

El Tomboto, Monday, 17 March 2008 23:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've had the complete 1-vol. edition on my shelf unread for uh eight months now...it's not like me to leave a comic book unread.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 00:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is RASL him as well, or am I on crack again?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

If him = Jeff Smith, then yes, that RASL be he.

David R., Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

That doesn't necessarily you're not on crack, though

Dr. Superman, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 17:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

i thought the back half of this was solidly 'ehh'

remy bean, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 17:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bone or RASL?

Dr. Superman, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 17:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.hollywoodtoday.net/?p=4075

nickalicious, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 17:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bone. I have no idea about RASL.

remy bean, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 17:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

on the PBS News Hour with Lehrer tonight:
Jeffrey Brown profiles the work of cartoonist and graphic novelist Jeff
Smith, best known for his "Bone" comics series.
Set yer tivos.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 21 July 2008 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Online tomorrow here: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/

forksclovetofu, Monday, 21 July 2008 17:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/insider/

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

For anyone in the general region of Columbus, OH - the Wexner Center has been exhibiting Jeff Smith original art this summer, till August 3rd - http://www.wexarts.org/ex/index.php?eventid=2371

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 July 2008 22:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

(A little bit of video of Smith there too - doesn't look at all how I pictured him!)

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 24 July 2008 22:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

My sister bought the 1,300 page edition for my son 2 Christmases ago. He wasn't doing very good with reading at the time, so I read it to him for a few hundred pages. I gave all the characters their own little voices and everything. We loved it, but eventually his attention wandered. He dusted it off again a few months ago and blazed through it by himself over the course of a couple months. We made some trips to the comic store to pick up Rose, Tall Tales, and the novel trilogy, all of which he finished. So thanks Jeff Smith, for getting my kid to read.

So now I'm dragging it to work with me, reading it on the way in on the bus. I get what Tuomas is saying upthread about the storyline not necessarily being in coherence with previous issues, but I'm not letting it bother me too much. The story moves fast enough that I'm happy to just let the little things pass by.

If you have, however, seen/read "Lord Of The Rings", or in fact any epic fantasy at all, don't bother with this. I mean, I'm totally an epic battle FITE kinda guy, but most of the latter "Bone" is just dull dull dull exposition and painfully generic characters/situations.

I hate, hate, hate Lord of the Rings, but I'm two thirds of the way through this and it's still pretty thrilling. Hope I'm not about to get bored.

how's life, Thursday, 20 June 2013 12:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I got so bored by then end that I've never re-read it. Taking a week to get through it, rather than having to take over a decade, may ameliorate this.

pink, fleshy, and gleeful (sic), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

have kinda been wanting to reread this.

the revelation, about halfway through, of why the bad guys are so fixated on phoney bone is one of the all-time never-saw-that-coming unexpected twists in all of comics.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 20 June 2013 22:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that got a big smile out of me.

how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 00:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know if this is sacrilege but I think I prefer the colour version. Only got a few books in then got distracted. Will give it another bash once I've finished DUNGEON - How's Life, you might like that too. Prob not every one of them is kid-friendly though.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 June 2013 09:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm always down for good recommendations. What's kid-unfriendly about it? We do our best to steer him clear of content that's overly sexual or exploitative, but that's about it.

how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 10:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Depends on your kid's age really. Probably a bit adult for under-12s. There's some grisliness in some of the stories (monsters getting splattered) and occasional sexiness+boobs (it's written by Frenchmen, so QED). But it's pretty harmless. Closer to Spy vs Spy than Garth Ennis. The storytelling is REALLY good though. The same writer has a much more kid-friendly series, Little Vampire, that's also fun.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:44 (five years ago) Permalink

This the first one if you feel like trying out: http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/1561634018

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:51 (five years ago) Permalink

occasional sexiness+boobs (it's written by Frenchmen, so QED)

Ah, but of course. : D

how's life, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:54 (five years ago) Permalink

There's some pretty disturbing stuff in some of the Dungeon books; a character is raped in more than one book (and rape is treated quite seriously, unlike the non-sexual violence in the series), and one of Dungeon Monsters stories has a deeply unsettling depiction of the female protagonist being abused. What's weird about Dungeon is that, even though the books are mostly light-hearted, the tone of any story can suddenly change with no warning, from goofy parody to sad and horrific scenes, and then back. That said, I think the main series (Dungeon Zenith) should be okay for older kids.

Tuomas, Saturday, 22 June 2013 10:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Good to know!

how's life, Saturday, 22 June 2013 10:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Yikes! Haven't got that far in the series yet.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 22 June 2013 18:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Good piece on Dungeon by John Hodgman (!) here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/books/review/Hodgman-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 23 June 2013 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Just been lent the full colour hardback of RASL by a friend. My anticipation levels are high, but I'm also apprehensive as it's such a big lovely book, I'm terrified of dropping it or damaging it.

this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Monday, 12 January 2015 10:25 (three years ago) Permalink

Take the time to wait until you can safely read it without terror. Use this time to dramatically reduce your expectations.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 11:34 (three years ago) Permalink

i'm about halfway through and so far it's not really hitting the spot like Bone did, sadly.

this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 11:42 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

RASL was lame. I got the nice color hardback and now I'm like, huh. Tesla : indie comix :: Autechre : ILM

El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 August 2016 21:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Felt like Miles and Annie were way more interesting than any of the "main" characters, especially the hero and the (main) villain, both of whom sucked so, so hard

El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 August 2016 21:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I liked it! Seem to remember the ending being quite poor though. And the "Previously, on Tesla..." recap, not so much. But it's fun up until the point that it isn't.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 14 August 2016 22:20 (two years ago) Permalink

The way the incompetent, ugly, fedora AND trenchcoat bad guy keeps calling him "art thief" well into Act 3 is just dumb. A more attentive student of Tezuka would have given the hero a real tragic reason to always order three drinks, not "magic hurts, plus I read the real shit about the Philadelphia Experiment, you don't even KNOW"

El Tomboto, Sunday, 14 August 2016 22:31 (two years ago) Permalink

Tezuka is a bit of an unfair comparison, in that he's one of a small handful of true masters of the comic book form and Jeff Smith is a guy called Jeff.

But - yeah. A more attentive student of Tezuka might also have made the bad guy a bit more three-dimensional and less "bad".

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 15 August 2016 09:18 (two years ago) Permalink

RASL was really disappointing. Just everything about it was kind of flimsy.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:59 (two years ago) Permalink


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