Y: The Last Man... Hero [NOW WITH UP-TO-DATE SPOILERS] (Brian K Vaughan)

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So... this chick is crazy. Like, Looney Tunes. It explains so much.

I have to say, I like the way that Issue #... Whatever issue the most recent one was, I like the way it was set up: Hero as a kid, Hero as an angsty teen, Hero whent he "plague" hit, etc. You see how she joined the Amazons, how she got out of the prison ("Oh yeah, I forgot about that..."), etc.

Very good issue after being constantly not-really-impressed with the series recently...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, a real chill went over me on the last page.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Most of my angsta is directed at Victoria. She's ten times more certifiable than Hero. Victoria is the most hateable (in a good way) character this side of reality tv.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, is Victoria the doctor?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha - I was gonna ask a similar question, as my attention to minor plot points (LIKE CHARACTER NAMES) goes floof, but feared reprisal. I thought Victoria was Yorick's mother...?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Never read this. I take it it's worth investing in the first trade?

Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Victoria is the nutter Amazon leader. With the emo glasses.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes!!!! There was an cheapo collection of the first 2 issues back when the series first hit (for only US$3.95), but if you can't find that, then the first trade is the way to go.

xpost - Ahhhhhhhhh now I see!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

If you people had read the latest Y (issue #26 for those of you scoring at home), then the name would've stuck with you!

She's really, really detestable.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I only read for the pictures, Leeeee. So, yes, I READ the last issue (yes, the best one in a while, if only because it doesn't involve Yorick cavorting with a hot chick in various states of undress) (and this isn't to say those stories sucked!), but I obviously didn't READ READ. If you had said "nutter Amazon leader", though, I would've sprachen'd zie Deutsch (so sorry if sic).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you saying I'm one of those who got into comics through hipster litwank graphic fiction? PISTOLS AT DAWN.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I have three words for you, Leeee:


Zell M. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

It's all about being in the wrong place at the wrong time... Or, being a complete psycho and brainwashing a traumatized, starving girl. Which I think is an accurate way of describing Hero's situation. She's trying to get better but goddamn if Victoria isn't going to fuck her up five ways from Tuesday. Um, what was I... Oh yeah, I hope a future issue goes into the brainwashing that happened on Hero. That would be interesting to read.

x-post: I was about to say something about Yorick's... thing. I'm tired of him yo-yoing back and forth w/chicks. "Oh, Beth! Oh, I want to sleep with you and you want to sleep with me because I'm the last man, But Beth! No! Okay!" Psssst, whatevers. Let's face facts:

1. He's not going to make it to Austrailia. The only way he'd make it is on a boat and human beings aren't hard enough to cross oceans like that anymore.

2. This guy shouldn't be debating sex. He's the last man, he should be sleeping with women left and right. Snaggle-tooth, one-armed, angry muppets- I don't care! He needs to repopulate the Earth for cryin' out load.

3. I want his AMAZING MAGICAL SKILLZ to get him out of some jam every issue... or, every other issue. He usually just uses it to impress girls that he's not planning to sleep with, but I want to see some amazing exscapism shit.

4. Uh... Anyone remember all that stuff that came out when the S&M chick was messing with him? Wha- What's that about? Are we going to hear anything else?

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Copout answer to #4: we are "hearing" stuff about all those revelations, as they are part of what makes Yorick Yorick.

Also, the arc right after the S&M encounter had him use his magic tricks to escape a sticky wicket!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought that was the bullshit Freudian explanation of WHY he's not sleeping with all the girls that are throwing themselves at him. I guess that only applies if he's tied up (hence the escapism?).

And I clearly have not read the latest issue, but plan to rectify it tonight. Btw, I like Victoria's emo-glasses and army jacket. She's a cute psychotic leader.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only read the first two trades, but is there any reason to expect that any male offspring of his would live?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh... touche Huck.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't ask me, I'm still trying to actively not think about the mystical explanation for the plague and Yorick's survival from issue #1 (cursed Israeli amulet or something?).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyway, weren't they hopeful that the astronaut's baby would live? Is she still alive? I can't remember.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, he can tell himself that his kids would probably live and that could be his excuse to spread the clap from coast to coast.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah! Where's his precious amulet now? ... I'm serious, where is it be/c I can't remember...

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Do we even want to know the nature of the Plague? Any effort at demystifying its origins would surely end up teh MIDICHLORIANS.

Didn't what'shername the Israeli lieutenant take the amulet?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Has it been revealed WHY/HOW he and his monkey (is the monkey male?) survived?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link



"Oh Yorrreeee! Come here you big piece of bacon."

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The monkey was holed up in his room w/the magic amulet!

Leee, I really DON'T want to know, unless the explanation happens to be fantastic, which is why I wish the amulet was never mentioned in the first place.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Monkey vs. Piggy!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Magic Amulet?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link


Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Magic Hamulet!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Spear and magic helmet?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link


Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link


Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

whoops, I meant to put an image of Elmer Fudd in full Wagner gear. I guess I forgot to click apple-C.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 7 September 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, I think any son of Yorick's would live, as would any boy produced by other means (the space kid, potential clones, etc) because the "plague" was like a one-time sort of thing, wasn't it?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

That was my impression, although of course most people on Earth wouldn't know or assume that.

I've read the issue now, it is indeed the best one in awhile. Andrew OTM about the last panel!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

***SPOILER WARNING EVEN THOUGH THE THREAD TITLE ALREADY CARRIES ONE NOW I.E. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THIS ISSUE DON'T READ ANY FURTHER TILL YOU DO*** OK, so I figure this, and I bet I'm not the only one to think it, that that ring he bought really does do that gender-reversing hoo-hah (womanb's finger = phallus, etc) and that it was the ring that obv. kept Yorick around. But how would that explain Ampersand? ***OK OPEN YOUR EYES AGAIN***

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Why did I read that?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Magic by association? Was the monkey sitting on Yorik's shoulders when the plague hit?

How are they going to get the ring back before Yorik dies? I mean, really, didn't the plague kill all the men within, oh, 10 seconds? I know 355 if good, but I don't think she's that good. Maybe Dr. Mann can do something to sort him out.

Hero. Oh Hero. You really are fucking in the head, aren't you? ...

I don't trust her.

Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Huk, I *did* put up a new spoiler warning!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I know, that only made it more attractive, like a flame to a moth.

Huk-L, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, I was just going to start a spoiler thread about this issue.

1) For some reason, I like the idea of a magic ring better than the magic amulet from the first issue. Although that did cause the plague, right? I guess they're part of a set.

2) Not that it's going to happen, but how audacious would it be if Vaughan actually killed off "the last man" in the middle of the series? I suppose they'd clone him or magic him back in a couple of issues though.

3) Cliffhanger speculations? I assume that the agents who stole the ring tracked them to their hideout and will burst in within the first two pages, thus reviving Yorick.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

1. I thought the most explicit plague-cause hypothesis bandied about was the wrath of God for Dr. Mann's experiments.

2. That'd be ballsy, but also the suck.

3. You're good, Jordan.

4. A lady friend who is not of comics read/flipped through this issue last night, and now she's all, "When's the next issue???" Hooray for more readers!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe yer man is just playing a joke on them? escapology is only one step away from lame practical jokes: "Hurr hurr, you thought I was dead!"

loggedoutvicar, Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

1. What about the very first issue? I only remember it vaguely, but didn't 355 (or someone else from her spy organization) jack the amulet from Israel, initiating the plague when they left the borders?

2. Yeah, I like 355 but there aren't really any other characters who could carry the book.

3. Actually I had forgotten the ring-as-gender-role-reversal thing by the end of the issue, good catch. I guess the magic of the Middle East turns METAPHORS INTO REALITY!!!

4. Cool!


Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Re: BKV & offing the main character - this wouldn't be the first time he's done this (in a sense), so I wouldn't put it past him.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Btw how many issues to go until Yorick and Ampersand somehow switch brains with each other. You know it's inevitable.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Grr, I don't get it! If the plague is still in effect how come the astronauts' baby is still alive? Is it some kind of Final Destination type thing where the plague has to kill all the men that were alive at the time it originally struck or what?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

And, okay, so the ring and the amulet are two different artifacts, correct? But are they from the same place, and are their magics related to each other's in nature as well as effect?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

the baby's sealed in a hermetic chamber, yorick was able to survive without the ring as long as he wore his gas mask.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I forgot about the baby! Hopefully there'll be a semi-decent explanation for all this.

I'll have to look at the first trade and this issue when I get home tonight, but didn't the "old man from Gremlins" shopowner say he brought it back from the Middle East? Or maybe it was just overseas. Anyway, it seems like nazis and Harrison Ford (or reasonable female facsimiles thereof) should be involved somehow.

(x-post, good point Blount!)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah! I hadn't read it when you guys were making all the heroin jokes in the other thread.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 May 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

(if it really is heroin...I would hope that Vaughan's infamous love of facts and trivia would steer him clear of these things)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 May 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Hey, that was the best Y in long time. I think it's because Pia is back on it, wahoo!

And one hyphenated word:

Leeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Was 37 the first issue to actually show The Last Penis?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 15 September 2005 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I think so!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Full frontal Yorick!

Let's not forget that Amerpsand has a willy, too.

Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

That's true. The Penultimate Penis.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 September 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

With all his clothes off, Yorick looks really short.

ahem (Leee), Saturday, 17 September 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

nurps, have I missed an issue through being in TEH UNITED STATES OF TEH AMERICA? I must look for this in Forbidden Planet.

DV (dirtyvicar), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Return of Beth, the woman in the church!4 page preview of the latest issue. Reading the trades, so months behind current events in the series. Looking forward to catching up when this issue's collected. Thought this Beth was a cool character for Yorick to meet, after confronting his own death wish.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Issue 40 is not very good.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 8 December 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I HAted the first trade. but i like ex machina...should i persevere?

molly (bulbs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link

might've bin the art

molly (bulbs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 06:42 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't know - i'm thinking if the first trade didn't grab you you probably shouldn't bother going on, the 'zomg what if' concept is the hook of it though now it's become much more 'about these characters' and less 'well this would happen if all the men died'. ex machina i generally don't follow anymore except glancing at trades (though i did follow the recent awesome two-issue prequel), whereas y:tlm i get immediately.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 13 July 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

well i usually like stuff you like so i might have a look. the "about these characters" thing appeals.

molly (bulbs), Friday, 14 July 2006 06:31 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
ZOMG`~!!! (I think?)

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

So cloning caused the plague? or Dr Mann Senior caused it for kicks?

Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I bet he deliberately caused it so that he could repopulate the world with his daughter, though that begs the question: did he clone her allergies as well?

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I preferred the mystery/

Slumpman (Slump Man), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
OMG, I just discovered that I buy my comics downstairs from the studio of the husband of p-i-a g-u-e-r-r-a!!! (said husband writes for b-o-n-go c-o-m-i-c-s!)

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just finished vol 10. Unexpectedly heart-wrenching, and the epilogue was kind of beautiful. I like how the world sixty years after the plague was quite hazily sketched, and how Vaughan didn't give a hundred percent definitive answer to the cause of the plague, thus retaining some of the intrigue that made the series so enjoyable. Top marks, I think I'll start again from the beginning some time soon.

chap, Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Comics Journal interview in two months.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I got volume I for xmas, then ordered 2-10 all in a batch and just finished the entire mess. Which is what it is. You have all the set-up for a nice extended rendition of a Children of Men scenario and then they proceed to drop the ball repeatedly. Easily one of the most disappointing final acts (and possibly even more disappointing epilogues) in any long-form comic I've read to the end, with the obvious Dave Sim exception (and Vaughan doesn't have the clearly-lost-his-mind excuse, does he?)

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm trying to think of any really significant moral choices or anything else that stands out in the entire storyline and I keep coming up blank

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

It is balls, but Vaughan does a good job keeping them in the air and revolving, so a page turner. Soap opera mechanics + sub-Morisson "occult" detailing that never quite pans out into anything interesting + teen crush angst = comics junk food. Disappointing, esp. with ludicrous plot developments and way too many characters who make no damn sense.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

y'know, I really liked it for all that.

i wanna roll stuff UP, i don't wanna NOT roll stuff up!!!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

It was mostly a reminder why I don't really read color comics anymore. Page turner, absolutely, but so are most bestselling novels that have no other redeeming value whatsoever. Plus, nothing in any of it actually looks cool, the art seemed throwaway to me.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

not that i'm reading many comics now anyway, but i wouldn't judge everything by Y. it fell off in a pretty huge way imo.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Y stayed consistent as an entertaining and intelligent (if not massively deep) SF-adventure story. The art was never beautiful, no, but always more than adequate to tell the story, which is sometimes all that's required.

chap, Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was a mercifully shorter and engaging Preacher without quite so much dick waving.

i wanna roll stuff UP, i don't wanna NOT roll stuff up!!!! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 January 2009 03:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Disagree. I thought Preacher had some [aesthetically] interesting things to say about America and American culture, and was in a lot of ways a flawed masterpiece. Y, by contrast, really is a subpar sci-fi epic -- and it's not surprising when compared to Vaughn's other projects. The guy just doesn't have that much to say. (By contrast to Ennis who has a LOT to say, but generally says a lot of it poorly.)

Mordy, Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i was never as bored and detached reading preacher as i was during the last third or so of Y.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 15 January 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe it's because I read it through the trades, but I had absolutely no problems with the story, and thought it was pretty consistently gripping throughout.

Nhex, Thursday, 15 January 2009 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

gripping is not a complement. Dean Koontz and Dan Brown can be gripping.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 January 2009 07:30 (fifteen years ago) link

you know what was really fucking laughable was the whole SIXTY YEARS FROM NOW title pane and then the next page has FLYING CAR OF THE FUTURE (as seen in popular science magazine) on it, like, this whole story has been about the future, but we had absolutely no ideas about the future, so we stole the oldest bullshit sci-fi idea there is, and drew it badly.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 January 2009 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link


fuck you

TOMBOT, Thursday, 15 January 2009 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, that's delightful. I still like it. I haven't re-read it or anything, but it was one of my favourites while it was coming out, and I do miss its absence. And the last issue - dead monkey! Oh so sad.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 18 January 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, this is odd in that I've never really felt any urge to fill in the gaps and finish it: even Cerebus is compelling, though when he's explaining the Torah to Woody Allen it's not the same sort of compelling it's meant to be, maybe -- I think my indifference never recovered from the bondage therapy arc, though I did like one random issue someone showed me where Yorick is reading a comic about XX THE LAST WOMAN or something ...

thomp, Sunday, 18 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Apparently the film rights revert back to Vaughn at the end of February.

Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 30 January 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

I tried tried, but I bailed out somewhere in the middle of book 3 last night.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 June 2016 03:41 (eight years ago) link

Don't feel bad, the ending is terrible.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 12 June 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

As far as having the source material complete to follow (or deviate from), that's cool.

First reaction though was not having enough energy/interest to commit to multiple seasons of Yorick wandering and meeting the various post-apocalyptic groups. The Walking Dead broke something in my brain that I associate with this series - maybe following them at the same time, somewhat similar structures, maybe the disappointing ends of 355 and Glen.

Still waiting on resolution to the last Saga trade, too. Guessing/hoping that was a fake-out. :\

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 29 October 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

well it's here now.

Is it... any good? I liked the comic, not sure I'm motivated to watch this over 2,000 other things. If they made a Saga TV show, on the other hand...

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 11:53 (two years ago) link

And Paper Girls by the Halt & Catch Fire team, obviously

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link

will watch soon

Enjoyed it. They’ve expanded the world it’s set in interestingly enough.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 11:06 (two years ago) link

Yeah, first two episodes aren’t bad. They made the good choice - and I hope they maintain it - of decentralizing yorick from the narrative and turning him into more of a doofy macguffin..

think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 12:02 (two years ago) link

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