Create the perfect superteam

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
This is inspired by a similar thread on ILE, except that isn't about comic book superheroes and this is. If all the companies were brought together, and all the characters were pooled, who would be in the perfect superhero team? I'm thinking like an equivalent of the JLA. I think I'll go with seven characters:

Superman, because he has to be there and I do love him.

Batman, because they belong together and I want someone who uses brain rather than brawn - I loved the way Grant used him in the JLA, and wrote him and Superman together.

Dr Strange - we need the scope for magical adventures, and I've always liked him. (I was tempted to use the Spectre, but he seems less of a team player than just about anyone.)

Black Bolt - an old and big favourite of mine, much underused in the Marvel universe - short of probably Dr Strange he might be the most powerful earthman, if you count him as such.

The Engineer, from The Authority - the best modern take on the hero creating their own powers, and someone with lots of scope. And you need a super-scientist, in a different mode from Batman.

The Vision - always lots to do with an android, and he has different powers and a different look from anyone else.

Phoenix, or some very powerful version of Jean Grey - a strong character, and it adds in psychic powers.

I think that's a team that could handle nearly any threat, which is the problem - you'd have to keep coming up with megathreats for them to deal with. I'm tempted to create a low-powered team as well - Cap, Hawkeye, Black Panther, the Wasp, Black Widow (this is looking a bit earlyish-Avengers, unsurprisingly), Mr Fantastic, Mr Miracle, something like that (6 Marvel!).

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

my newsboy legion from the other one.

Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

The Newsboy's Legion

Clark Kent
Peter Parker
Jack Ryder
Vic Sage
Alan Scott
Me

-- Huck (handsomishbo...), September 1st, 2004.

and no doubt I'm missing others from Marvel?

Huck, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

My ideal superteam would be a mix that would clearly detest each other. It'll take some thought.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

My ideal teams are almost always brought together against their will or by necessity. This is because I was into Blake's 7* and the ABC Warriors before I started reading American comics. Hence I am always a sucker for comics where conniving villains are forced into co-operation with heroes.

Unlike Martin's team powers would not be a factor. Because this is comics it would generally win anyway, and because this team is a bit dodgy it would sometimes not win, or win only at some horrible cost, or be forced into doing something awful in order to win.

Who would be in it? I'll have a think. But the team should include:

A heroic leader.
An untrustworthy but brilliant deputy.
A loose cannon
A love interest
A comic foil
A raw rookie
A genius, possibly robotic
An enigma

PLUS! A mysterious boss. AND An arch-villain. These last two can be one and the same but not until issue #12.

Actual picks to follow sometime soon.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there a bit of Bad Company in there? Admittedly not much of a love interest (No I am not going to reread it as a secret paean to man-love).

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Just to start, it would have to include:

Blade
Cassidy from Preacher

Nightcrawler
Lucifer
(Arc)Angel

The Punisher
Batman
Mr. Sensitive

And Wolverine, to sell this horrible team book.


(x-post)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't see them in bright sunshine very much of the time!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like the idea of Batman and Dr Strange on a team, enough so that I'm keeping that.

So:

BATMAN. Why? Because he's Batman. His super power is competence. Sometimes I think he works best -- albeit least frequently -- on team books.

DR STRANGE. Because this is a team with Batman on it, which means it's not some penny-ante matching-jacket team living in an abandoned firehouse with a haunted computer that tells them when and where danger's gonna strike in Hudleyville, it's a TEAM SUPREME, and they get the Sorcerer Supreme. Stephen and Bruce can trade anecdotes about the idle rich.

VALERIA VON DOOM. I don't know what happened to the one Claremont introduced, but this is her or an alternate universe version of her a few years later -- the daughter of Susan Storm Richards and Dr Doom, a technological genius, a quasi-sorta-mutant, a mystic novice, and more psychologically screwed up than Claremont had her. You know what, bulk up that mystic novice bit too, give her a huge mystical power that she doesn't know how to control and isn't sure what she can do with, too.

AMAZO. This Amazo was nearly destroyed in a big battle of some kind, and had the evil programmed out of it by Valeria while she tinkered with it, but it still didn't function well enough to be of much use. Then a disembodied Dr Doom, passing through this time period from some Who Knows When where he's never heard of Valeria, animated the android and became stuck there because of the mystical aspects of Val's tinkering. His consciousness and personality control the android now, but Val's no-evil-at-all firewall is still in place, so he's forced to be good!

AMETHYST. Yeah, the one from Gemworld or whatever. I hardly remember anything about her. But she could totally be redone in that Silver-Age-filtered-through-Grant-Morrison way (when I think "perfect superteam," I seem to think "Morrison's JLA," judging by how I'm going about this), and she's got plenty of backstory you can draw on/reintroduce, but she's enough of a cipher personality-wise that she can fill in whatever dramatic blanks are necessary.

SUPERBOY. He's the muscle. He's the least serious one. He's got the most to live up to. He'll hit on the girls.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, Bad Company is another bit of classic team-building. Even Bad Company II isn't bad.

Other great teams: Morrison's JLA, Suicide Squad, L.E.G.I.O.N. (having the untrustworthy genius BE the leader, nice one! It got a bit embarrassing when they just started re-doing Blakes 7 though), Dad's Army.

I like military settings a lot, I think.

The 'family' model of superteams does nothing for me, nor does the super-club idea (though I do like the LSH). Claremont was always a bit too cosy about his teams, too*

*(the best thing about New and Astonishing X-Men is clearly Emma Frost, who oddly is a combination of two classic Claremont tropes - Strong Woman and Villain Seeks Sanctuary - that he had never thought to merge.)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The perfect low-power team:

Cypher
Shadowcat
Antibody (New Universe)
Swift
Black Panther
Mystique
Thunderbird (either I or II)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

King Mob & Tara Chace

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Emma Frost & Craig Thompson

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

All the heroes who know they're fictional. "The Team That Fights - YOU!!"

Animal Man
Ambush Bug
Flash (Stop! Buy this comic or I'm doomed!)
Dr Doom, 'cos he beat up Stan Lee. He'd be the bad boy of the group.
Master Mind (from Buster)
Cliff Hanger (ditto)
Ace Garp

Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

And Psycho-Pirate assembles them as the new Suicide Squad, to sabotage the InterCrisis TimeWar that threatens to retcon them all!

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

That's really not a bad idea.

"We're all going to be wiped from reality - and replaced with hot teen versions of ourselves!"
"But how can we fight - OUR OWN PLOT?"

Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Talk ... slowly ... chum! As ... soon ... as ... this ... dialogue ... balloon ... fills ... up ... it'll be ... the next ... panel! Our climactic ... cataclysmic ... reengineering! The ... gasp ... SPLASH ... PAGE!"

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Adam West is Ambush Bug, the Bug Elemental

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Marvel Mentalists:

Emma Frost
Jean Grey
Rachel Summers
Franklin Richards
Destiny

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Should I list the team of "original" characters I came up with in junior high?

THE TEEN DEFENDERS

Mindstorm - Telepathic and telekinetic; his big weapon is to blast his opponents' brains with psychic energy. Basic All-American straight-A African-American teen male; this was the Mary-Sue character. (The plot lines I had planned for him should have made people very worried about my state of mind.)

Barricade - Teenaged daughter of an American diplomat. She's telekinetic, but her power only manifests itself in the form walls of force that she can move and manipulate, hence the name. (She flies by riding one of these walls like a surfboard). Modelled after my huge junior-high crush.

Bandit - Teenaged street kid. Teleporter. He creates portals that he can dart into and re-appear anywhere else within eyesight; used to use this skill to pick pockets. Very, very bitter about his hard-knock life. He was Puerto Rican like one of my best friends but had the exact opposite outlook and attitude.

Shrapnel - Teenaged street kid. Ran with Bandit but isn't as hard-hearted. Her power is odd; she can generate this shell of "darkforce" around her body that makes her nigh-invulnerable and super-strong. This shell can also be "detonated" into shards of darkforce that can do some serious damage. I didn't really model her after anyone. (Bandit and Shrapnel ended up having more of a history together than either of them realized.)

Pentagram - The resident teenage mystic. He can do odd, arcane things to anything that has a pentagram inscribed on it and carries 5-point throwing stars as his main offensive weapon. He was also original (and at one point he was to go batshit insane and attempt to destroy the world).

Electrode - Teenaged girl with electrical powers. Due to a government experiment, she has microcircuitry and nanotechnology implanted all throughout her epidermis which activates when she uses her powers, turning her into a logic-controlled cyborg fighting machine. She was actually the catylist for bringing the team together; the fallout of the operation that created her caused the government to gather other teens with paranormal abilities together to keep them out of the clutches of the unscrupulous (aw how nice of them; yes, there was a plot there) and these six ended up training together in an ROTC-esque program as back up the government-sanctioned paranormal teams (Stilleto, Hammer, Anvil, Bolo, Lycos, Thunderpunch and Gyro).

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Mindstorm, who is team leader, at one point has his telekinetic powers stripped away, leaving him with his psychic blasts, so he changes his name to Psychoshock. Then he gets brutally killed. I came with all of this before I was obviously depressed.

(Barricade took over as leader and I can't remember if I came up with a new character to take Psychoshock's place.)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I had villains for them too but I won't list them unless people are finding this fascinating.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

PLEASE.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG I'm so tempted to try & dig out the copious notes & half-ass scribblings I cribbed together (during my paper route deliveries!) for CODENAME: ALPHA. Maybe when I'm awake, & someone starts a POST YOUR GENIUS COMIC IDEAS HERE thread.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

OUT WITH IT YOU TWO: POST YOUR GENIUS COMIC IDEAS HERE

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.