preacher: the movie

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The Spirit movie has some homages to Eisner's work IIRC but it's inevitably drowned in Miller's excess

Revive! There was some discussion on the TV series in the Marvel cinema thread, but it'd be better to continue it here, where we don't have to avoid spoilers.

I read somewhere that Odin Quincanon is going to be one of the major villains of the series, a guy who if you remember turned up in probably the most boring Preacher storyline way way into the run.

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I guess I can understand why they'd do this, because Quincannon is pretty much the most harmless, least blasphemous villain in the series, so using him won't make any viewers angry. But it'd still be a boring choice.

Um, dude fucked a giant woman made out of meat. Just sayin'.

It seems like a mistake to try adapting this comic anytime after the turn of the millennium.

I know what he fucked, but he's still the least offensive villain in the comic, since his story doesn't involve making fun of Christians or gays or disabled people. The only thing that Ennis mocks in that arc is the KKK, which shouldn't lead to too many angry protests if adapted to TV.

i would guess the series is gonna bear only the slightest resemblance to the book and thank god

It only dawned on me yesterday that Jesse is played by the guy who plays/played Howard Stark in the MCU.

Literally the only enticing aspect of this for me.

Oh, okay, I didn't realize Ruth Negga from Agents of SHIELD was playing Tulip. That's two enticing, Marvel-related aspects.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/18/amc-offers-the-first-four-minutes-of-preacher/

I'll watch the first ep or two out of respect for the me who bought these on the newsstand but i am highly skeptical

yeah, that's pretty much where i am too.

dominic cooper is terrible at american accents so i'm morbidly curious at how badly he'll mangle a southern accent - he also seems about 10 years too old to be playing jesse

I was reading a thing yesterday about how this has been Seth Rogen's passion project for over a decade and I thought, 'Really? Preacher?' It's like cashing your chips to make a biopic about the Bloodhound Gang.

lol, that was my take too but rogen has made millions of dollars marketing to the slightly too cool for kevin smith crowd so why stop now?
dude made a fucking green hornet movie for crissakes

I don't think that footage looks too bad, but I'm mildly annoyed that they've cast such a handsome dude to play Arseface. The whole point of the character is he's fucking grotesque! In no way does this guy look he blew half his head off with a shotgun.

http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2016/03/arsefaceheader.jpg

he does in the way that the lower half of his face looks like an asshole

How would a shotgun do that without Cobaining the top half of his head as well?

alan sepinwall - who's about as reliable a TV critic there is and purports to love the comic - had a v positive review http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-why-seth-rogens-preacher-was-wise-to-chart-a-course-away-from-the-comics

(no spoilers)

purports to love the comic

thing is if you're a grown adult who still loves preacher i dunno if i trust yr judgement

Should we get a mod to change the thread title to "preacher: the tv show" and move it to ILE?

I enjoyed this. The accents are pretty much all wack, but the tone of the comics is there, and Ruth Negga is fantastic as Tulip.

don't rewrite history imo

Hands up who exactly would be surprised if Rogen announced that his next project would be a biopic about the Bloodhound Gang.

i really liked this!

i like how they've set up the show to stand on its own. cast is great - accent are def garbage but the comedy & personalities are well set

i was a fan of the comics in college but it was def of its own time, like i nostalgically went back & reread them a while back & was like hmmm nope. I didnt want a slavish recreation of the original, so i guess some of my enjoyment of the show is partly just relief

I'll give it a chance but I'll be giving it as much side-eye as I would a televisual adaptation of Strangers In Paradise (speaking of comics we enjoyed in college but which in hindsight make us wonder if we perhaps indulged in too many judgment-impairing extracurricular vices in college).

oh man, strangers in paradise.

has anyone tried to option love and rockets? I know hate and velvet glove both went through development hell.

I believe Locas rights were bought once long ago, not sure about Palomar.

i would imagine the option would've been dropped this late in the game.
that said if there were ever a time for a Locas miniseries, i imagine it would be now? No idea how Palomar would play.

In, iirc, the Gaiman interview, Los Bros said they wanted the L&R film to be both Locas and Palomar stories

I can't really think of any alt/underground/indie comics I would be excited to see turned into a movie or TV show. Love L&R to death but I cannot imagine an adaptation being anything but awful. Ghost World was way better than it had any business being but it still wasn't really Clowes, and Art School Confidential was terrible.

Despite moaning earlier on about Arseface being too handsome, now I've seen how they're doing the character on screen I think I get where they're going with him. It seems like they're making a lot of effort to portray him more sympathetically than Ennis did in the comic, where he was pretty much just a walking punchline. I think I'm okay with that.

Ennis's "fuck everything" misanthropy seems very juvenile now, doesn't it. When I first picked up Preacher I couldn't believe I was reading all this transgressive shit in a comic, but since then I've read a lot more comics, and it seems a little less impressive.

Arseface was portrayed fairly sympathetically in the comic, iirc. I remember him being one of the only decent people in that universe.

I think I ultimately wound up pretty strongly disliking the core cast. I doubt that was intentional.

Preacher worked best as a serial comic entertainment, delivered on a monthly basis by a very reliable artist - one issue a month just about the right ration. I gave up reading before the end, but the impression I had was that the ending was not universally loved, even by fans of the comic?

I don't know that I was ever that much of a fan, actually (mostly just way into Vertigo at the time, although I should've followed my instincts after lamenting when Ennis took over Hellblazer), but I did read the whole thing. Don't remember the ending much but I don't remember anything positive about it.

i have the full series on my shelf somewhere, i suppose i should reacquaint

Ennis's "fuck everything" misanthropy seems very juvenile now, doesn't it.

He's definitely juvenile, but I'd hardly class Ennis as misanthropic. If anything he's a sentimentalist

masculinist sentimentalist methinks

first ep was okay, probably better than I was expecting (genuine lols at 'tom cruise explodes') although cooper's accent was even worse than i feared it would be. he's too old and pug-faced for jesse but i liked tulip and cassidy fine

best thing was the opening scene in outer space with the b-movie fx

i'll stick around for a few episodes but i guess the real acid test will be how they handle the more classically ennis material

I guess it's maybe an encouraging sign that Genesis merging with Jesse didn't kills his congregation at the same time

Arseface was portrayed fairly sympathetically in the comic, iirc. I remember him being one of the only decent people in that universe.

He starts off as a nasty joke, but yeah, Ennis soon sets him up as a decent person, more decent than any of the protagonists. His story also has a much more positive conclusion you'd ever expect based on those early issues, and I definitely agree Ennis is a sentimentalist. Fespite his tendency to go for the yuck factor, ultimately most of his stories emphasize that there is fundamental goodness in (some) people, and most of his protagonists get a happy ending, of a sort at least.

If you can live with Ennis' gross-out excesses, I'd still recommend reading The Boys, his other creator-owned magnum opus besides Preacher. It has a lot of the same strengths as Preacher (some actually funny gags, solid characterization, good sense of pacing and drama) + a lot of strong satire on superheroes and the military-industrial complex, but it significantly tones down his worst tendencies, i.e. the sexism and homophobia. It's still reconizably Ennis, so if his tics generally annoy you, they will do so with The Boys too, but I was positively surprised by it.

mainly i'm just morbidly curious to see them adapt the bill hicks issue

Never been able to get past the terrible artwork on The Boys

I think Darick Robertson is a decent artist, and his cartoonish style is certainly a good match for Ennis' writing style... But the digital colouring and the "3D" shading on the comic is awfully ugly and brown-tinted, which makes Robertson's art look worse too.

The Irish stereotype guy in this is pretty broad isn't he? Is that guy actually northern english, mancunian or something? Geezer who's been in Misfits etc?

Am wondering if they'll include Jesse's John Wayne fixation or if it'd mean touching on copyright issues or something.

Did quite enjoy this so will probably watch the rest.

Also really enjoyed The Boys a couple of years back. I guess roughly when it was coming out really.

xp agreed, i never liked the coloring on that book, you just nailed it for me - I wasn't sure it what it was...

If they do the John Wayne thing the way they did it in the book (in shadow) I'm sure they can get away with it as parody. Bill Hicks thing I'm less sure...

turns out Rogen and Goldberg are developing a TV version of The Boys too

I just realized that Ennis is basically a way less self-aware Johnny Ryan.

issue #1 of preacher going for northwards of £200 on ebay at the mo.

(the amc-branded reissue is free on comixology, or 69p for the vertigo version.)

haven't re-read this since it was published. time to dig it out again?