Costume redesigns - what sticks, what doesn't.

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Inspired by the 'new look' Martian Manhunter. I say under a year for that one.

'Venom' spidey costume - kind of a special case. Didn't stick, but became a whole new popular villain.

Batman - minor changes come and go (yellow circle, ear length, etc.) but no wholesale revisions in the character's whole history that I can think of.

Iron Man - went from gray to red and gold. Shellheads had a lot of changes, but have any stayed?

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wonder Woman's halter top had an eagle on it until the early 80s when it was replaced by bust-highlighting double-yews. Minor, but I think it's held.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

WW's costume is a funny case too. It's gone through a number of minor permutations (longer or shorter trunks, longer or shorter skirt, panties) that pretty much match the young women's trends of the day. But the funny thing is how full of patriotic american signifyers (red white and blue, stars, eagle) when the character isn't even an american!

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ya, she doesn't even have an accent!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Batman - minor changes come and go (yellow circle, ear length, etc.) but no wholesale revisions in the character's whole history that I can think of.

http://www.superherotimes.com/news/images/KnightfallAzraelasBatman.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Gross. And obviously it didn't stick. Also, unless I'm mistaken that wasn't REALLY Batman, aka Bruce Wayne. That was Batazrael, wasn't it?

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I was looking for the "Rainbow Batman" to add to Jordan's tomfoolery, and found this AWESOMENESS instead:
http://www.jiffypics.com/heinz/BatA/37.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm anti Law & Order, but, COME ON, the gold at the end of rainbows is FINDERS-KEEPERS. GIVE THE RIDDLER A BREAK, ROBIN.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 19:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think he's stealing the actual rainbow, using the pot of gold as a carrot on a stick, to lead it away. Rainbows are worth fighting for.

Slumpman (Slump Man), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'd consider this a major change (for the better!) that stuck

http://www.wordsandpictures.org/theflash/images/jay_garrick.jpg
http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2004/11/current_flash.jpg


metal hat no

Slumpman (Slump Man), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

TINTIN IN JEANS!

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

And Haddock in tweeds and monocles for that matter - lasted all of one book.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 21:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I love both Flash Classic and New Improved Flash Now With Only One Calorie, personally.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

(Must not mention Black Canary, must not mention Black Canary).

Okay, JLI Black Canary costume. Glad that didn't stick. Rather liked the early Birds Of Prey outfit which has not all but vanished (all that's left seems to be the gloves). Goes to show that fishnets are still the way in the martial arts world.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 22:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I LOVE WONDER WOMAND JUMPSUIT DAYZ

chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A lot of the X-Men have had substantial makeovers over the years, and some looks come and go. People always seem to gravitate back to the designs of Neal Adams, Dave Cockrum, John Bryne and Paul Smith, with good reason.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I can't understand why the current design of Nightcrawler has stuck for so long - basically the Cockrum design without the black stripe in the middle, but with a big dumb yellow X on the chest.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

BBBBUT THEY DON'T MAKE X-MEN COSTUMES FOR FAT PEOPLE

lord pooperton (ex machina), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

COME ON JON

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

daredevil's original costume lasted all of five issues before wally wood re-designed it - and the wood version has lasted ever since

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 06:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

How soon we forget!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 08:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i don't think i've ever seen that horror before!

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 09:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i love metal hat flash

and what (ooo), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

original iron man too

and what (ooo), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 12:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My favorite thing about Jay Garrick Flash is his bulky drapey sweater.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wonder Man's turtleneck, trenchcoat, and sunglasses ensemble was pretty swank.

barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I love the Alan Scott Green Lantern look! The cape! The red tunic! I also like the Hal Jordan look, though Hal Jordan can suck it.

eeeethang - you mean you like bulky grey Iron Man, or the bulky gold Iron Man, or the red/gold pointy mask Iron Man?

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

bulky grey iron man is the biz!

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/7/7c/Iron_Man_Armor_MK_I_001.png

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The classic Alan Scott Green Lantern look is awesome (colorblind swashbuckler!), but the 90s reIMAGEing as Sentinel was, meh, typical of its day.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I AM IRON MAN:

http://www.geocities.com/avengersmicros/Hembeck-IronMan.gif

Please note the repulsor pods on the hip. Please also note the swirly Hembeck joints.

A simple GIS for Iron Man brings up all sorts of shitty xtreme designs. DESTROY that red/white Obidiah Stane / Armor Wars-era armor, BTW.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

http://www.canarynoir.com/index.php?page=costumes

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Two questions lurking below the surface here: 1) what counts as a redesign? and 2) what counts as sticking? The answer to 1 seems to be major shifts in color scheme and bulk - Azbat and black Spidey are redeisgns, the Invisible Woman losing her midriff isn't. 2 needs to be pinned down, though. Spider-Man was in the alien outfit from 1984 on and off to 1988 - not exactly an eternity, but certainly long enough that it stuck in people's minds as a costume and not just a costume change.

Wolverine is a really weird case in that I think both the yellow-and-blue and the brown-and-tan are sort of acceptable definitive costumes without much hoopla surrounding the changes, and then meanwhile the Morrison/movie approach never felt unnatural either. Maybe he's a character that people don't associate with his costume? The claws and the hair are all you need to convincingly broadcast "Wolverine"?

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 July 2006 02:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think Wolverine works in civilian clothes so much too that it doesn't really matter. Like, seeing him in a leather jacket, it's still Wolverine, not "Logan".

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 10 July 2006 10:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's all about the muttonchops.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What was the deal with the eyepatch?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Pirate chic?

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Days of Our Lives Zeitgeist?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wasn't it a MadriPOOR disguise?

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Broffle.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

I wonder how much of this has to do, also, with what a character is wearing at a moment when their book gets a bunch of new readers. Thinking here of the X-Men circa the cartoon show, the action figures, and the speculator boom - all those Jim Lee (and maybe Portacio?) costumes seemed to me, coming on board at that time, as just what those characters' costumes were, and it was a long time before you could have convinced me that most readers would have read, say, Storm's white drapey thing as a dubious recent change and not just "Storm's costume." Also, of course, when characters have had more costume redesigns over their history, it decreases the sense that they even have a definitive look. Storm might actually be a good example.

An interesting take on this was Prime, as written by Gerard Jones and Len Strazewski and drawn by Norm Breyfogle, where the character's costume changes are part of an evidently planned two-year mega-plot, and symbolize how the adolescent boy who is secretly behind the Prime bodies (it's a Shazam-type premise) is trying out different identities for himself: generic hero, a "rebel" persona that becomes quickly and appropriately cringe-worthy, etc. Tbh they could have done much more with this, but it's a cool idea.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 31 December 2016 04:32 (one year ago) Permalink


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