The Watchmen: Classic, duh!

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My own disappointment in Darwyn taking this job is that it's keeping from doing his own comics based on material that he's come up with himself. I've enjoyed the vast majority of his comics work, but really want to see him do his own thing. But then again, it's not any of my damn business which jobs he chooses to do or not do.

I thought the WATCHMEN flick tried to have its heart in the right place and made some horrible missteps along the way that made me really not like it at all. Less reverence would have served the film far better. Granted, 99% of the audience didn't read the source as I had, but every shot call out to the original material just jumped right the hell out and reminded me that it was a shadow cast by another work.

Matt M., Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the Watchmen movie sucked.

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

the Watchmen movie thread on ILX was very ugh

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't seen all of his films, but the only thing of Zack Snyder's I've found tolerable was his Dawn of the Dead remake!

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

But back to the point: that tumblr repeatedly posting the cover image of the Azzarello series is way, way on point.

The point of Watchmen was that it was a cynical take on the genre. I mean, there have been series already playing out such takes -- like The Authority and the entire history of post-Watchmen inward-looking comics. The best part of the story was that the characters were cutout archetypes. Once you flesh them out, they're no longer just cutouts and the original series has a different context and... ugh.

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I thought the WATCHMEN flick tried to have its heart in the right place and made some horrible missteps along the way that made me really not like it at all. Less reverence would have served the film far better.

That's just it -- it was a reverent adaption by someone who had somehow missed the whole point

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

The comic's strength was in showing the sketchiness of the whole superhero endeavor, that each character had their own reasons for doing it and their own human strengths and failings. Treating the idea of their being superheros seriously. The point of the movie was LOOK MOM I MADE A SUPERHERO MOVIE THAT IS SERIOUS.

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

His DAWN OF THE DEAD is really good until it becomes just a sorta regular action movie and then tries to lower the boom at the end. But man, that first 15 minutes are gripping.

Matt M., Wednesday, 15 February 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

Been reading the Before Watchmen series, started out with what I presumed would be the best one, Cooke's Minutemen series. And it was shockingly good!
Question that's killing me though - who is the blonde-haired orphan ("Jacob"?) in the serial killer's photo (from the Comedian's final story) supposed to be? Adrian?

Nhex, Thursday, 16 June 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

FIRST LOOK! #DoomsdayClock #1 has what I think is the coolest lenticular cover ever. Thank you, Dave! @1moreGaryFrank @bdanderson13 11/22/17 pic.twitter.com/UltJCZFI6G

— Geoff Johns (@geoffjohns) August 30, 2017

koogs, Monday, 4 September 2017 09:15 (seven years ago) link

thought for a minute that that was a heart at 12 o'clock. not sure if the actuality is better or lamer.

koogs, Monday, 4 September 2017 09:17 (seven years ago) link

i am powerfully unhyped for this

Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 September 2017 09:58 (seven years ago) link

I wish I had Photoshop installed so I could turn those blots into Alan Moore's face, a middle finger, and three dollar signs.

Pascal's Penisés (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 September 2017 14:02 (seven years ago) link

This is like when young people like shitty bands and it makes you feel old, except the young people are older men and it makes me feel completely neutral

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 September 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link

lol

Nhex, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 06:41 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/watchmen-hbo-damon-lindelof-1202818921/

Those original twelve issues are our Old Testament. When the New Testament came along it did not erase what came before it. Creation. The Garden of Eden. Abraham and Isaac. The Flood. It all happened.

Sounds like he has the inevitably overwrought ’tude toward the subject matter...

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link

Ah – I steer clear of ILE

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 May 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link

Shivers at the phrase "true fans"

Uuuugggggghhhhhh

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 23 May 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Rorschach may have spoken truth, but he wasn't a hero. Enter a new mystery in RORSCHACH by @TomKingTK and @jfornes74: https://t.co/OHw9cO3Qtt #DCBlackLabel pic.twitter.com/NkBQQQuaRs

— DC (@DCComics) July 15, 2020

FAC 179 (morrisp), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

I saw the graphic comic. His mask is actually a woman’s dress.

— EvanBarracuda14 (@EvanBarracuda14) July 15, 2020

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

*mind blown*

koogs, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

i'll give it a chance because i still like Tom King

also DC Black Label has been retaining good cover designers

Nhex, Thursday, 16 July 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

That 'Batman: Damned' book is really nice. I have it on my stack to read next.

earlnash, Thursday, 16 July 2020 04:56 (four years ago) link

hope Alan enjoys this. maybe after watching the tv series

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 July 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

in his flat in London

bat ain't Thad (sic), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

Alan famously resides in his hometown of Northampton, sic. surprised at that from you

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

I base all my Alan Moore knowledge on the public statements of Zack Snyder, as fact-checked by entertainment media

bat ain't Thad (sic), Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Anyways, within a few decades people would still have forgotten the alien and the cold war would be back in effect, unless Ozymandias would keep bombarding the Earth again and again with new aliens.

just finished the tv show and saw this early thread comment !

mark e, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

ahh ... just re-read - its a quote from an AM interview.
that makes more sense now.

mark e, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

perhaps AM gave lindelof some pointers

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

Along with his blessing.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

If Dr. Manhattan had just destroyed all nukes on earth, like the Star Child in 2001 or Superman in Superman IV, there wouldn't be a need for any of it.

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

that's not a quote from Alan Moore, it's a quote from Tuomas!

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

Wait...did no one ever tell you? Perhaps you should sit down for a moment.

the secret of sucess is to know all rules ...and brake them (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

alwayshasbeen.jpeg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

morrisp you forgot Alfie O'Meagan from The Nth Man

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

I've never heard of that! (I specialize in Kubrick & Golan-Globus; I'm fuzzy on everything else.)

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

This is the I Love Comics board, what do you mean by coming over here with no knowledge of a series set completely outside the continuity of every other comic book in publication that only ran for 16 issues three decades ago

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

(did that sound like sic? if so please be assured I am only joking)

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

It totally did sound like sic! Lol

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

that's not a quote from Alan Moore, it's a quote from Tuomas!

― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid),

so it is.
apologies.
thought he was referring to the AM interview linked above as opposed to quoting himself on a dead ilm board.

mark e, Thursday, 27 August 2020 08:19 (four years ago) link

TBF, I'm sure many people who've read the comic have thought of Veidt's plan as being flawed in that way, Lindelof included.

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2020 06:31 (four years ago) link

If Dr. Manhattan had just destroyed all nukes on earth, like the Star Child in 2001 or Superman in Superman IV, there wouldn't be a need for any of it.

This is discussed in the comic, and Dr. Manhattan admits he probably couldn't destroy all the nukes in time before some of them hit their targets, so that option is off the table.

Tuomas, Monday, 31 August 2020 06:34 (four years ago) link

I don’t recall that, but not surprised it was addressed (why does he have to wait for their launch to be imminent, though? he can’t just teleport around the globe and vaporize them on the DL?)

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Monday, 31 August 2020 06:46 (four years ago) link

(Tho I guess the nuclear powers could always just built more nukes... which is a variation on the continuous-squid problem being discussed. How do you truly end a cold war, etc.)

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Monday, 31 August 2020 06:50 (four years ago) link


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