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I saw that the first trade of this came out, and it looks like it could be really good. Anyone read it? I can't remember the last thing I bought on Image.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I read it and it is really good. Nice art, an involving story and good characters with some funny dialogue....

David Nolan (David N.), Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Zombie comics! I don't even know this series -- who's it by?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

This is Robert Kirkman's series, ain't it? He's all over the place (in all senses) - best known for his "critically acclaimed" Invincible series (also on Image - someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's sorta like a 4-color wholesome Silver Age Powers?), and he's gonna write a Captain America arc to coincide with the Bendis / David Finch Avengers reboot (coming soon!), AND he was one of the creators screwed by Marvel when their Epic Comics reboot crapped itself. (He was working on a new Sleepwalker series, FYI.)

Here's a press release about the 1st Walking Dead collection.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

And it's only ten dollars! Nice. I'll look for this.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Totally worth it. It's like a zombie movie with brains and heart.

Not splattered brains and open heart, but a smart, solid story.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Got (and read) the trade today. Yep, it's really good. Doesn't waste any time with set-up either, it gets right to the interesting part (the post-apocalyptic survival). I'm even prepared to forgive the 28 Days Later hospital intro.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 15 May 2004 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
i like it!!

the second book is really where it takes off, it seems to me, although i'm not crazy about the art in book two; everyone looks the same & it's hard to keep everybody apart. but romero-as-comic-book: perfect.

and yeah what's up with the 28 days later thing?? does issue 1 predate the movie or wha?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 21 August 2005 05:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Kirkman's "Invincible" starts off like "Sky High". Powerless son of Earth's ultimate hero wishes for powers, eventually gets them and meets other teen superheroes (1st trade, Family Matters), goes on adventures, while the series version of the JLA gets slaughtered (2nd trade, Eight is Enough), and has a rude awakening (no spoilers, but I think it's been discussed elsewhere on ILC - 3rd trade, Perfect Strangers). 4th, Head of the Class, is newly out - haven't read it yet.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Sunday, 21 August 2005 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

As the story goes, Slocki, Kirkman had written the hospital intro of the first issue before he'd seen a downloaded copy of 28 DAYS LATER. Apparently he spent the first several minutes of the movie swearing...

Granted, both of them swiped it from DAY OF THE TRIFFIDS, but that's a rather academic point.

I must admit, my enthusiasm for THE WALKING DEAD has cooled somewhat. I want more zombies and less drama right now. But still, I end up picking up the singles when they come out. Damned inertia.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
NEED BRAINS

NEED PEOPLE EATING BRAINS TO BE SPECIFIC

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

SOAP OPERA OF THE DEAD! EXCEPT WITHOUT THE DEAD PART!

I'm really starting to resent Kirman's idea of drama.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

things don't sound too good in walking-dead-land!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Dropped. It has become...dull and histrionic, simultaneously. The zombies are more compelling than the interpersonal dramas being played out, and there aren't any zombies to be seen.

So, uh, what David said. And Jordan.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really hoping the next issue brings the greasy kid stuff.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Tell me how it turns out. They're not getting any more of my money until a goddamn zombie eats Rick's brains. And Tyrese's. And Rick's kid. And his wife. And all the other characters that we've gotten tired of. I guess they don't have to eat Micchone, but I wouldn't mind if they did.

BRAINS.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I picked up the first trade and hated it. Really, what is new here?

I'm LOVING Invincible though.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 20 February 2006 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I liked the first trade, lent to me by a co-worker.. I'll be reading the next three within the month--i think that's where he got off the boat. How many trades are there, now? (even if they aren't worth reading.)

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Erm, four trades? Think they're working on the fifth.

For the love of all that is holy, stop at the third. You've been warned.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

that's what i did!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i will stop.

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link

But it's actually getting better! Again! Maybe just skip the fourth & fifth?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

After a while it got to the point where I could keep track of who was who and what their deal was and then it got to the point where I just didn't care anymore.

Occam, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate that young couple that has sex all the time.

(just like real life!)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone that dropped this because of soapy chatty dullness should really reconsider, as the new issue is THRILLING. Best it's been since they found the prison

Slumpman (Slump Man), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i love finding comments like the above and wondering "huh which one was that"

i read the first 48 issues of this last night. it's a lot like watership down, actually.

thomp, Monday, 1 December 2008 15:12 (ten years ago) link

Snap! I just re-read the same 48 issues over the weekend. Really enjoyed it.

James Morrison, Monday, 1 December 2008 22:16 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

jesus this thing has taken some incredible twists and turns lately and the hunters storyline seems to be getting a lot of hype. I wish this would come out more often.

ABSOLUTELY NO SCRUBS WHATSOEVER, Friday, 12 June 2009 18:55 (ten years ago) link

Ditto. It's quite alarming how seriously Kirkman takes his "no character is safe" philosophy.

James Morrison, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:59 (ten years ago) link

I recently read the first seven issues, thought it was OK until Tony Moore left, then I realised most of my enjoyment had come from his art. Don't think I'll ever be bothered to read the rest. The writing's not bad, but it doesn't seem to be offering anything new to an already overcrowded genre, and the characters alone aren't good enough to make me want to invest my time. Six out of ten.

chap, Saturday, 20 June 2009 01:06 (ten years ago) link

I thought this was Classic up until SPOILER dude loses his hand -- and they meet that psycho dude? SPOILEROFF and it was downhill enough from there that I dropped it. Should I go back to reading?

Mordy, Sunday, 21 June 2009 05:23 (ten years ago) link

Enjoyable early issues became an exercise in torture porn - what even more horrible things can I inflict on these characters to titillate my audience? Gave up for good around the same time as Mordy.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 21 June 2009 12:56 (ten years ago) link

Enjoyable early issues became an exercise in torture porn

I can completely see where you're coming from, while respectfully disagreeing. One bit--the abuse/rape of a major character--was too much for me, and yet I do like the way every risk is a REAL risk, and every threat to the characters has real consequences. A very "pleasant" antidote to the bullshit of superhero comics, where nothing every really matters or makes any difference.

James Morrison, Sunday, 21 June 2009 23:43 (ten years ago) link

Probably not the place to get into it, but I don't really buy that criticism of comic book -- that nothing even really happens. When a character is killed off (Superman, or Captain America, or whoever), they are withheld from readers for varying lengths of time. As far as fiction goes, that's as significant as death ever is. That they come back doesn't lessen that, and I don't feel a need to have permanent consequences for death as tho resurrection lessons the realism of the book. I mean, Walking Dead is about zombies taking over the world. Why do these horrible things to your characters? What is this "real risk?" They are still characters, so nothing is ACTUALLY happening to them.

(tho I guess if some people like it, then Kirkman is appealing to an audience. But I don't think he gets any cred for maiming/raping/murdering his protagonists. Also: all my friends who were reading this have since dropped it.)

Mordy, Monday, 22 June 2009 04:22 (ten years ago) link

Ugh. full of typos. "I don't really buy that criticism of comic books - that nothing ever really happens."

Mordy, Monday, 22 June 2009 04:22 (ten years ago) link

I mean, Walking Dead is about zombies taking over the world. Why do these horrible things to your characters? What is this "real risk?" They are still characters, so nothing is ACTUALLY happening to them.

Well, yes and no. But I'm not so divorced from the fictions that I enjoy that I think about them that way. There are still characters I care about, that I want to survive.

When a character is killed off (Superman, or Captain America, or whoever), they are withheld from readers for varying lengths of time.

Sure, but at that level you'd get the same effect by just not buying the book for a year or two.

James Morrison, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 00:04 (ten years ago) link

guh.
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
GRAHUH!
kuh.

zombie, Thursday, 25 June 2009 03:40 (ten years ago) link

recently read/re-read trades 5-8, still liking this. thought things got boring/too much of a soap opera after they found the prison, until the shit with woodbury.

ian, Monday, 6 July 2009 01:45 (ten years ago) link

man, some wikipedia editor type has taken all the plot summaries off the page. can someone give me a quick summary of what happened since the governor's men killed the entire cast except the main dude and the main dude started to go crazy?

thomp, Monday, 6 July 2009 01:53 (ten years ago) link

Things get better, then they get worse. More characters die in horrific ways. Main dude gets crazier, then recovers his sanity to lay the smack down. Things get better, then they get worse. More characters die in horrific ways. Main dude gets crazier, then recovers his sanity to lay the smack down. Things get better...

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 July 2009 02:00 (ten years ago) link

^yep

an average room of dentists (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 July 2009 17:05 (ten years ago) link

Main dude and his son are now in a travelling party (with some new characters and some of the people who left the prison before the Governer killed everybody) which is supposed to be headed for Washington, DC. Main dude's son is now basically a psycho.

Great Expectorations (James Morrison), Monday, 6 July 2009 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Wow, main dude's son is now psycho too. Major plot twist.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 July 2009 23:04 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

any new developments?

thomp, Thursday, 14 October 2010 13:27 (nine years ago) link

Now they're living in a walled town, with Rick as equivalent to sherriff, but he's viewed with suspicion by many after beating the crap out of a man who committed domestic violence. Also he may be planning a coup to take the place over.

buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:41 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

fuck i should catch up on this man.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Sunday, 27 February 2011 02:52 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

Just read the whole 80-odd issues over a few days and it made me moody and irritable. Kirkman has no boundaries to what he'll do, which is interesting, I guess, although not necessarily entertaining. Tension mostly seems to come from wondering when the next porn-eriffic double-page Death of Your Favourite Character will occur.

Having said that, if I'd actually paid for the sucker, I'd have quit after two issues.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 24 June 2011 12:17 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I read the bulk of the first two hardback collections last night (have about 1/3 of the second one to go; in the prison, Rick's shot Dexter in the head), and really enjoyed it.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 12:46 (seven years ago) link

Tension mostly seems to come from wondering when the next porn-eriffic double-page Death of Your Favourite Character will occur

Yikes, OTM me, last year. Anyone read #100 yet?

Scik Mouthy, I don't really enjoy it, but I can see why other readers would -- which I guess is a weaselly way of saying I don't like it. But I guess it's rare for comics creators to get the time to build such an expansive world. I'm just not sure I like what he's done with it.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:37 (seven years ago) link

I gave up on the series a few years ago (pretty soon after half of the cast had been killed by the Evil Moustache Guy and his henchmen) because it didn't feel like Kirkman was willing to advance the main plot in any substantial way beyond Shocking Character Deaths, and those were getting tired too. I don't think zombie apocalypse is a good setting for a series that goes on year after year after year, because it severely limits the kind of stories you can tell within it, so if you at some point you need to actually conclude the story unless you want to bore the readers. (And in zombie apocalypse stories the conclusion usually involves either killing everyone, or a cure being found; is The Walking Dead's plot anywhere near something like that at the moment?) At least with Invincible Kirkman still manages to do some fresh things in his stories even after 10+ years, because the superhero setting has (by design) a lot more storytelling options than the zombie one.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:22 (seven years ago) link

I never regret turning my back on this series at issue #24.

Matt M., Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:43 (seven years ago) link

is The Walking Dead's plot anywhere near something like that at the moment?)

Killing everyone--certainly very few of the original cast are left. But the back-matter is pretty much clear in stating that it will never go down the cure (or explaining the cause of the zombies) route

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 23:36 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

he got around to killing rick, if anyone still cares

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 20:44 (four months ago) link

My buddy was making a sweet living inking this for quite a few years but now what’s his name has decided to start inking himself :(

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 June 2019 20:54 (four months ago) link

yeah, that's as of this issue right?
i imagine it was a plum gig.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 21:00 (four months ago) link

does he get money off the trades?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 7 June 2019 21:00 (four months ago) link

i read the t0rrentz of this but it is basically pedestrian and boring and i should stop, plus kirkman seems like a terrible dickhead

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 7 June 2019 21:02 (four months ago) link

That’s a good question. I don’t think so? I feel like the writer and penciller are usually considered the ‘composers’ of the piece.

Anyway Stefano is mad talented so it’ll be cool to see what he does next.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 June 2019 22:20 (four months ago) link

I have no interest in reading this & regret the loss of a job for a person, but it’s cool when long-time assembly-line artists change their process, especially when it means taking on more authorship

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 7 June 2019 23:20 (four months ago) link


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