Love & Rockets - classic or dud

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I may have asked this already on ILX.

anyway, is L&R any good? I bought the first book a while ago to see what all the fuss is about, and I found it rather unengaging.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never read it. Really, I stay away from comics that aren't superhero stories because I read comics for superheroics.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I am Dan.

Also, the first L&R fans I knew were the kinds of people who make you want to never like the things they like, which unfairly biased me against it.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never read actual issues / collections of L&R, but I've read an associated one-shot or two (The Maggie & Hopey Color Special, most notably), and enjoyed its gentle comedy, and I also enjoyed the art stylings of the Hernandez Bros., especially the one that draws just like John Romita.

Wasn't the 1st book more a sci-fi romp than the sort of thing that L&R became known for?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I also used to confuse L&R with this:

... which had a "... COCAINE?" bit in its advertisements, which made me think it was going to be some lame Don't Do Drugs romantic comedy. Which it might've been, but it wasn't Love & Rockets after all.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I always think Rocket from the Crypt when I see Love & Rockets for some reason, even though I haven't read or listened to either one.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

b-b-but love and rockets has superheroes in it!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

WTF! You guys need to read it. It's probably my favorite comic ever. It's like somebody pulled out the entire imaginations of three (well, mostly two) really smart, incredibly artistic Hispanic boys in the 1980's and just layed it all out on paper.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

i haven't read it for 10 years but what Dan said. also Maggie=comic character crush.

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

"the death of speedy" is probably the best intro-to-jaime volume to get: it stands up pretty well on its own and isn't as arcane as the later books or um, dopey as some of the early stuff.

with gilbert you'd probably better just start at the beginning; it's hard enough figuring out what's going on without having to read everything out of order!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link


By the time I get back from work today I want an Angel Love thread with 50 answers. (btw it was rubbish Tep.)

Love And Rockets is grebt but I've not read it in 10 years. I wonder if Morrissey has read it.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I've read Love & Rockets only spottily, but what I've read was definitely good. The final L&R story almost brought tears to my eyes.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Do sample The Death Of Speedy and, if you want to try just one Gilbert volume, maybe Poison River. I think L&R is one of the best comics I've ever read. Ignore Mario, of course.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 14 May 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, Lordy. Love & Rockets starts out EXTREMELY spotty but promising--a couple of kids getting their free-form fantasies down on paper in sort of interesting ways--and in about eight issues becomes one of the GREATEST COMICS EVER.

My favorite Jaime book is "Wigwam Bam"; favorite Gilbert book is probably "Love & Rockets X," though I'm not in agreement w/ many people on that one. Maybe just go for "Palomar."

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

"Death of Speedy" is my favorite Jaime book, and is also (as others have said) the best Jaime introduction. It also works very well as a standalone volume, because there are lots of flashbacks. I've given it as a gift several times.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I've ever seen both "the golden years" and "the years after" portrayed so well.

soundtrack: The Pixies' cover of "I can't forget"

It was high and fine and free, oh you should have seen us

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"Death of Speedy" is my favorite Jaime book, and is also (as others have said) the best Jaime introduction.

OK. so should I just give up on "Music For Mechanics" and throw good money after bad acquiring a copy of "The Death Of Speedy"?

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe...whats in Music for Mechanics again? is the early stuff? what Douglas says is OTM

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Explain me more about this "L&R has superheroes in it" thing? Or better yet ... what's the series about?

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

in the early episodes there were futuristic elements to Jaime's stories (hover bikes etc) and superheroes. one of the characters, Penny, wanted to become a superhero. Gilberts early stories had monsters and weird stuff too.

then they got phased out.

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Love and Rockets = genius. Read lots of it.

David Simpson (David Simpson), Monday, 24 May 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Woah I can't believe in all the years I've read Love and Rockets I never realized Luba was supposed to look exactly like Susan Sontag! It adds several layers of meaning to the boobs.

Dan I., Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

all of a sudden i am FOR interpretation all over again

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 10 December 2005 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

have the post first 50 L&Rs come out as paper collections yet?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

First volume coming soon.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 11 December 2005 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

That fantagraphics post is really helpful. I don't have Locas, since I bought the trades, but I'm pretty amazed at how exclusive they are--that huge thing doesn't include Flies on the Ceiling!

kenchen, Sunday, 11 December 2005 08:55 (seventeen years ago) link

It's helpful but misleading. While whoever wrote those guides would have you believe otherwise, there is an awful lot of non-Locas/Palomar stuff in the original trades, most of it well worth reading.

An aside: I think I love Beto's Fear of Comics almost as much as Locas or Palomar.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 11 December 2005 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Whoever = Fantagraphics publisher Kim Thompson, as noted in the "POSTED BY" bit. And how misleading are sentences like the PALOMAR book collects EVERY SINGLE "Palomar" story from LOVE AND ROCKETS #3 to #50, with the exception of about 42 late pages in LOVE AND ROCKETS VOL. 14: "LUBA CONQUERS THE UNIVERSE," excluded because they have plot roots in POISON RIVER.


Therefore, if you've purchased and enjoyed PALOMAR, your first stops will be LOVE AND ROCKETS VOL. 12: "POISON RIVER" (the early story of Luba) and LOVE AND ROCKETS X (a story set in then-contemporary L.A. which featured one of Luba's daughters and has since worked its way into post-Palomar continuity).


LOVE AND ROCKETS VOLUME 1 has about 60 pages of stories such as "BEM," "Music for Monsters," et al. (Also available much cheaper --five bucks total!-- as LOVE AND ROCKETS #1 and #2.)


There are four very early "Locasverse" stories in LOVE AND ROCKETS (Vol. 1) #1 which were not included in LOCAS because they were comparatively crude. As it happens, you can still buy the original 64-page LOVE AND ROCKETS #1 for only $2.50 through the Fantagraphics catalog -- or you can buy LOVE AND ROCKETS VOL. 1: MUSIC FOR MECHANICS, which reprints #1 and #2. Although this latter ploy will give you a duplicate copy of the 40-page "Mechanics" story which leads off LOCAS, the other 80 or 90 pages of comics are not collected in either LOCAS or PALOMAR, and well worth the price (especially Gilbert Hernandez's "BEM," featuring a pre-Palomar Luba.


There's about 100 pages of "Locasverse" stories that were cut from LOCAS because they focused on peripheral characters -- Rena Titañon wrestling stories, Penny Century larks, etc.; unfortunately for collectors, they're scattered in Volumes 2, 4, 5, and 6, which otherwise contain mostly stories collected in LOCAS and PALOMAR. (Volumes 7, 11, and 13 are COMPLETELY collected in LOCAS -- well, except for one 3-page story in Vol. 13 that didn't make the cut -- so you can ignore them.)


However, LOVE AND ROCKETS VOLUME 9: FLIES ON THE CEILING, while it does contain a number of pages collected in LOCAS, is a relative bonanza in this regard, with 37 pages of non-LOCAS "Locasverse" stories, including two of the very, very best: "Flies on the Ceiling" (the story of Izzy in Mexico) and "Spring 1982" (a haunting flashback to the early days of the Doyle character). Volume 9 also contains Gilbert's stunning "Frida."

He doesn't cover Mario at all, but didn't he disappear from L&R almost entirely after the first few, siphoned off into anthologies and Brain Capers and so forth? I don't remember anything non-Locasverse by Xaime at all, so he's covered. What else is there, maybe a five-page short by Beto every three books, if that? (nb: if at home I would actually check this, no belligerence intended in question!)

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 12 December 2005 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, it sounded complete, I was just surprised by the ommission of FLIES, since the comics journal ranked the 5-or-so-page story as one of the top 20 comics of all time!

kench, Monday, 12 December 2005 01:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the omission of that and the other Izzy stories etc. made me decide to spend $150 on TPBs 11-15 instead of $65 on Locas. So far this has only led to volume 11 being bought, because the bookshop doesn't have any of the later ones or Locas...

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 12 December 2005 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think i understood "flies"

tom west (thomp), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
I think remember someone (Douglas?) commenting on how weird or fucked-up the new issue of Love & Rockets (#23?) is, but I didn't find it any more weird than the rest of nu-L&R?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

in the latest CJ there's an ad for a new series of 'manga format' COMPLETE chronological L+R reprints (one series for Jaime, one for Beto) - can't wait

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 12 January 2007 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I think it was the combination of no Maggie/Hopey and Beto derailing both of his ongoing stories into sex scenes that are like the opposite of fanservice and screwing up everybody's lives.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I can see that. I thought it was because of Ray's moustache.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 January 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

COMPLETE chronological L+R reprints

three volumes each for Locas and Palomar characters, then one at the end for Mario and Rocky & Fumble* and BEM and Errata Stigmata and all the other oddments. All from v1 #1-50, none of the subsequent series covered.

*(which I totally forgot about in my really-kinda-belligerent post up above)

nu-mongrel (kit brash), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

According to Kim Thompson, they're repackaging all the old L&R collections to be more accessible and in-narrative-order-y.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 13 January 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

no, I'm 99.7% sure they're basically in publication order - it'd be interesting to have them re-sifted into narrative order, but mostly impossible/pointless given that both use flashbacks so heavily.

nu-mongrel (kit brash), Saturday, 13 January 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

So I just picked up "Blood of Palomar" for dirt cheap and have never read any L&R before. Is this a reasonable place to start or am I better off not reading it yet?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

it's ace and pretty self-contained, go for it.

nu-mongrel (kit brash), Sunday, 14 January 2007 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link

just read the first issue of "new tales of old palomar" and it was pretty good, way better than i expected.

zappi (joni), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Chris, tell us what you think of it!

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 14 January 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, that was confusing. Forty thousand characters (although they were fairly well distinguished). So many little narrative jumps! I felt like I was reading every third panel of a comic.

Anyway I'm not sure what I think of it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 15 January 2007 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Having pretty much raced through LOCAS over the past few days (early, early mornings and late, late nights being quite beneficial in this regard), I'm curious as to if there are more Izzy stories around and, if so, where I might find them. It seems quite clear that there's an Izzy storyline or two elliptically alluded to throughout the Maggie/Hopey adventures and I'm eager to read...


R Baez, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

R, most of Izzy's story happens off-panel; the one major, major exception is the excellent short story "Flies on the Ceiling," which is not in LOCAS but is in MAGGIE THE MECHANIC and the old L&R vol. 9, also called "Flies on the Ceiling."

Where to next w/r/t LOCAS: if you don't love the wrestling stuff, skip over WHOA, NELLIE!, which is mostly about Xochitl and Gina, and head straight to LOCAS IN LOVE, then DICKS AND DEEDEES, then GHOST OF HOPPERS. The stuff after that hasn't been collected yet; it starts with #11 of the current L&R series (mostly the "Day By Day With Hopey" story).

Douglas, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

The new L&R collections are so pretty. **grumble** formatting** **etc**

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Okey dokey, Douglas.

R Baez, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"Flies on the Ceiling" is NOT in Maggie the Mechanic :(

chaki, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

o god i love that last LUBA collection AND dicks and deedees. i kinda thought i'd lost interest in this for good my. maggie is...lovely again. and doyle is there too...

mully, Saturday, 24 March 2007 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Crikey! I need to get a wriggle on...

Stevie: here are the two post-Love-Bunglers Xaime HCs:

Is This How You See Me?

- these are material that overlapped with each other in the issues, and with Love Bunglers, and with another lite-SF-adventure series that Jaime has on the go these days.

Facsimile editions of the L&R issues themselves probably still the best way to read this material imho, where the separate worlds are rubbing up against each other rather than kept apart.

― Ward Fowler, Monday, March 28, 2022 11:42 PM (one week ago)

I wouldn't say best - if nothing else, the expanded Poison River is a massive upgrade to that story, and it's easier to track the timeline in book form - but having read the Complete/Collection books first, it's definitely both fascinating and enlightening to see the way they piecemealed out the stories, and get a better impression of how much they were working on the fly and reacting to other things in the world or in comics.

And yeah, you get no idea in the books the various ways they play off each other - grabbing a topic or theme or character from the other Bro's work and riffing on it. Izzy appearing as a Poison River background extra in the same issue as she's in Mexico for Flies On The Ceiling! Plus the non-Locas and non-Palomarverse shorts & series feel more essential in situ, letting each artist play out ideas that don't fit in their ongoing work, or the way Beto takes months out from his regular characters to retrench between novels.

beepy fridges (sic), Friday, 8 April 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link

hm ok damn now I want to re-read L&R in like original comic book/Collection form and see what it's like

Stevie D(eux), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

oh man do I have some good news for you!

beepy fridges (sic), Thursday, 14 April 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

This will get me chased out of this thread, but the earliest stuff is hard for me to roll with - as artists they evolved so much over the years.

I’m more of a Jaime stan and his more “cartoonish) stuff from circa 2000 forward is just magical.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

(I do read the Gilbert stories in the new issues as they come out, though from issue to issue I couldn’t summarize whatever through line plots exist if my life depended on it.)

Jaime has some odd superhero sideline serial going on which, whatever - I keep thinking that space could better serve Maggie, Ray, Tonta, Frogmouth, etc. (Hopey’s been MIA for a minute, hasn’t she?)

I did consider buying some hardbacks of recent-ish stuff at my LCS but abstained - money is tight and I have this content as single issues already. Someday!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Keep meaning to reread by softcover of Wigwam Bam but then remember how much that story freaks me out.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:25 (one year ago) link

certainly the early Jaime stories with tons of cross hatching and walls of text were on the weak side, but it was pretty amazing once he ditched the sci fi elements and started digging into the Locas storyline

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

Yeah - the sci-fi stuff did nothing for me.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

The Mechanics stories are wonderful!

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

A new PBS doc is coming this fall:

HIPPO violation (morrisp), Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link


Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

^This doc premiers tonight - 9pm on KCET in SoCal (no idea if it's national too, or what).

Two-minute preview here (looks like a lot of "flipping through pages" close-ups, but I guess that comes with the territory):

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 16:54 (eleven months ago) link

It’s not national broadcast, but will be available on the PBS app.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 17:29 (eleven months ago) link

better they flip through than "animating" bits.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:07 (eleven months ago) link

I keep getting faked out and thinking this thread is about the band, which, fwiw: classic.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:09 (eleven months ago) link

yeah, i'll watch this

I refer the honorable member for Beaux to the front cover of issue #26.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:34 (eleven months ago) link

I'm watching this right now on the PBS app

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:28 (eleven months ago) link

so this was pretty well done, but it could have easily been twice as long. I would like to have seen more about Gilbert and Palomar, and just more about some of their most famous storylines over the years

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

Definitely could have been longer! Felt kinda rushed. There are some cool/interesting bits… particularly the Bros going panel by panel through a few old favorites (Dennis the Menace and Little Archie). It’s also fun watching Jaime draw & ink.

Linkin Bio (morrisp), Thursday, 6 October 2022 06:24 (eleven months ago) link

I haven't watched this yet, but I just noticed it's on YouTube on KCET's channel here.

ernestp, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 02:51 (eleven months ago) link

Amazing! Thank you ernest

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 07:41 (eleven months ago) link

Thank you!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 11:06 (eleven months ago) link

It can be watched at the PBS website also.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 13:09 (eleven months ago) link

This YouTube link works for all us non-Americans, tho!

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 14:20 (eleven months ago) link

thanks for that link!

“Cheeky cheeky!” she trills, nearly demolishing a roadside post (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 05:40 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I don’t like this writer, but in case of interest…

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 17:06 (ten months ago) link

Gosh, it manages to work “Comics Aren’t Just for Kids Anymore,” Watchmen, and TDKR into the opening paragraph…

Reese's Pisces Iscariot (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 17:22 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

In Ep. 5 of Hulu sitcom This Fool, the main character wears an L&R #24 T-shirt. (I see Fanta has it in stock… maybe I’ll try to pick it up for myself in their Black Friday sale)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 05:02 (ten months ago) link

there's also a L&R #29 shirt! (with L&R40 logo...)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 18 November 2022 07:35 (ten months ago) link

I got a cheap bootleg of that tee off Redbubble as postage for the Fanta one to the UK was like $50. It's p bad, all the audience are peeling off, but I wore it to a comics convention I took my daughter to last weekend and I got many compliments (and everyone asked if it was vintage, and I replied, 'No, it's just shit')

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 18 November 2022 09:52 (ten months ago) link

and here’s the creator / star of This Fool interviewing all three Brothers last month:

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 18 November 2022 15:45 (ten months ago) link

love that #24 shirt, incredibly iconic image. that said I'm wondering it's too obvious to wear or should I just say fuck it

Nhex, Friday, 18 November 2022 16:19 (ten months ago) link

xp Thanks, sic – will check that out.

Yeah, I'm not traditionally a big wearer of shirts w/indicia... but lately (maybe as a "getting older" thing), I've been into the idea... searching online for band T-shirts and stuff. (Pretty sure this is my actual shirt that was stolen from a college dorm locker room c. 1994, lol)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 18 November 2022 16:57 (ten months ago) link

i own and wear the #24 shirt on the regular

"This Fool" is pretty great btw

I also have a version of that shirt that I wear all the time

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 18 November 2022 19:56 (ten months ago) link

The cartoonist Adrian Tomine discovered the series in 1987, after reading “Death of Speedy Ortiz,” a story by Jaime about a Hoppers local who becomes embroiled in a gang war. “I thought it was the greatest comic I’d ever seen,” he said.

Me too!

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:24 (ten months ago) link

(well, actually a few years later, when I came across Vol. 7 of the collections)

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:28 (ten months ago) link

I'd love to have that box but I have almost all of the first 50 in floppies, not sure I can justify it for the last volume.

DPRK in Cincinnati (WmC), Monday, 21 November 2022 01:21 (ten months ago) link

i feel like i have the first volume in like three different formats already but i wouldn't turn down that box set if anyone wants to get it for me

It’s nice to see L&R get this round of 40th Anniversary props. If they do pack it in after another 10 years (as they say in that article), I’m sure there’ll be more of the same… then probably a movie, five years later.

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Monday, 21 November 2022 05:12 (ten months ago) link

Sale on the box is over, but 40% off just about every other L&R book, magazine or floppy today only

(same goes for any Fanta author)

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Monday, 21 November 2022 17:41 (ten months ago) link

Just bought some Peanutz

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Monday, 21 November 2022 17:43 (ten months ago) link

ooh thx

sleeve, Monday, 21 November 2022 17:44 (ten months ago) link

finally got the new woodring

A third sale: 20% off all pre-orders today, which includes the next digest/Library collection (the first in five years!), the next Psychodrama Illustrated, and a Fritz b-movie triple-feature.

more crankable (sic), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 02:38 (ten months ago) link

Now this I like:

"Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 2 December 2022 20:30 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

Fantabucks sale in two weeks: plan accordingly

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:13 (six months ago) link

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