in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

Have you ever noticed that all of his faces look like his face?

heh

!!!

I just really need to know how the inker/colourist feels about having to work with images like that.

Hahaha!

Levels.

I pray I never see it again.

why do people keep asking me this?

(Are you sure?)

Rob of Finland!

oh crap, coffee all over the keyboard again. Damn you, Liefeld!

This is exactly it, combined with the fact that Rob Liefeld has the taste and enthusiasm of an eight year old boy. He can totally tap into a certain mentality and aesthetic like few other people. Unfortunately, this aesthetic is pretty laughable, but it's definitely the reason why he had so much early success.

I just read that Wikipedia entry - it actually doesn't seem all that imbalanced to me.

I remember being really disappointed when the regular series came out and he wasn't the penciller! Admittedly, that was probably the last time I was disappointed not to be looking at Liefeld's art, but there really WAS a time when the McFarlane/Larsen/Liefeld style really seemed like a neat new thing (maybe it helped if you were 12 years old then). Larsen on Doom Patrol, McFarlane on Hulk and Amazing Spider-Man-- all good (the shiteness of "Spider-Man #1 by Todd McFarlane" (props to Mark Martin) probably put an end to this though, even before the Image era came along).

i like how by the last one the therapist is wearing a ... crop-top ... off-shoulder ... tank-top?

deadpool is entirely the reason anyone from hollywood gives two shits about liefeld. success breeds attention.
"shrink" strikes me like a movie pitch for a superhero psychologist ("it's sopranos meets the avengers!") and someone wants "From the Guy Who Brought You Deadpool" for the movie poster.
it's a sad old world.

deadpool is entirely the reason anyone from hollywood gives two shits about liefeld. success breeds attention.

why did Hollywood give so much of a shit about Deadpool in 2002? was Lopez mad that it was doing so badly that the Gail Simone run got cancelled and replaced with Agent X?

i feel good about not knowing that anyone in hollywood cared about deadpool in 2002
the character is terrible imo, just a murdery brodown howard the duck.

Jennifer Lopez bought and was intending to star in Shrink! in 2002.

(Deadpool is definitely repugnant.)

ya oldsters

anyway, and i say this as a compliment, Joe Kelly deserves most of the credit for turning Deadpool from a = Deathstroke-ripoff to the fourth wall-breaking Spider-Man with a goofy cast of characters

Deadpool has been given more interesting facets over the years but not interesting enough to actively elicit my actual interest. Like it's the one Marvel character I don't make any effort to keep up with.

I assume he at least partly owns all the stuff he says he still owns. And let’s face it, he can come up with new ideas with exactly as much value as the old ones in 15 minutes

remember when Liefeld justified taking a series that Loeb and Ian Churchill created away from Churchill
and licensing it to a publisher trying to rebuild his line after many creators had walked, including the entirety of an imprint under a salaried (?) editor
because said publisher had been exposed for ripping off artists by claiming that their work was substandard and therefore not paying for it
but publishing it anyway
and then threatening on the internet to sue people who talked about it

and Liefeld's justification was that Churchill had slowed down and wasn't following Liefeld's editorial direction
...out of resentment that Liefeld had stolen his original art...

and part of Rob's explanation on a fan board was

Awesome has a vast library of over 500 characters, we cannot and would not choose to publish all of our titles in the current tumultuous marketplace. Do not kid yourself, the industry is suffering terribly! The honest members of the big 2 companies will concede that this is a trying time for publishers. The numbers continue to sink.

#allegedly #iirc

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/07/05/william-messner-loebs-comics-kiss-the-end-3/
good to see him working but does he have a home?

remember when Liefeld

honestly, my knowledge is based on less-than-half-remembered Wizard magazine articles from 1995, articles about the number of pouches he’s drawn, and the occasional anecdote on ilx

the truly shitheaded moves are bad, the absolute consistency in being a deluded loon are funny

hey I guess Churchill finally got his art back from Rob (recently?) sometime in the last 18 years

The Coven: Issue 1, Pages 2-3
Pencils: Ian Churchill
Inks: Norm Rapmund
Media Type: Art Board
Detail: Cane bashes Abel over the head

dammit the exclamation mark fell off

Detail: Cane bashes Abel over the head!

Those “Shrink!” panels make me feel embarrassed to have ever read a comic book.

in 2012, 562 backers pledged $35,343 to help Rob give a free copy of the new Brigade #1 to 100,000 people by October 2013

every single comic that BACKERS and PLEDGES receive will come with a FOIL STAMPED BRIGADE LOGO! Yes, EVERY COPY! Shiny is always better, at least in my house and this will cement YOUR comics that YOU created via this pledge with a signature FOIL LOGO.

on June 8, 2019, Rob updated:

Delayed cover uploading shortly. Book on track to become the single biggest and most important of my career. Period

Only a true wordsmith could conjure up the metaphor of "cementing" a cover with a shiny logo.

as of two days ago, Rob is now "redrawing" this book that ppl gave him thousands of dollars for seven years ago, to remove the characters that he accidentally forgot he doesn't own

what a tragic and unforeseeable delay to this series which he absolutely definitely has completed, with presumably 68 subsequent monthly issues ready to roll out on the regular just as soon as he gets that first giveaway relaunch #1 out, which he IN NO WAY has failed to complete in the year's lead time he gave himself, or in the subsequent six.

Awesome has a vast library of over 500 characters

nb that in Shrink!, he ran out of ideas for superheroes after four, and just put a regular snowman in the fifth

also that fully half of the superheroes were called Mr. [Something]. golden age vibes or golden retriever brain? u-decide

could be 3/4, I’m just guessing he never actually came up with a name for the human torch guy. absolutely cannot rule out Mr Not Human Torch though

It seems like you dislike this man

never met him

Rob's got a fake interview in the back of Major X #0 where he talks about how it's the most important and biggest of his career and was an idea he had when he was at Marvel the first time and they begged him to come back and do it.

It's a truly awful series, but despite stiff competition the art is by far the worst thing about it - full of static poses, brokeback and crotch shots for starters alongside Rob's well documented inability to draw feet, perspective or anyone holding nothing correctly, but the muscle definition is especially hysterical.

It's honestly been somewhat impressive over the past three decades to watch someone so assiduously resist growth + improvement in their chosen creative field.

Like how hard would it have been to set aside a cumulative hour or two to really look at a foot.

Ah, but...

Following the April 2012 release of DC Comics' solicitations for that July, which included Liefeld's covers for The Savage Hawkman #11, Deathstroke #11, and Grifter #11—all of which showed characters' feet—Liefeld, who had been criticized for avoiding drawing characters' feet, commented, "The Hipsters don't know what to do when I draw feet. It confuses them."[106]

“The Hipsters don’t know what to do when I draw feet,” and other totally normal things to say.

The Hipsters will continue doing what they've always done, Rob: neither know nor care about your existence.

Or is that just his random catch-all term for people who acknowledge his absence of talent

“The Hipsters don’t know what to do when I draw feet,”

new board description plz

what other four-decade veteran of the comics industry could make an event out of rendering anatomy for the first time

he really is comics’ own trump

Brokeback Crotchshots, in theaters May 2021

Rob is now "redrawing" this book that ppl gave him thousands of dollars for seven years ago, to remove the characters that he accidentally forgot he doesn't own

I'm, picturing him with a giant eraser going at his pages and it's making me giggle

“The Hipsters don’t know what to do when I draw feet” is some amazingly funny "I'm triggering the haters" dialogue and I agree it's board worthy

I'm picturing him with a giant eraser going at his pages and then redrawing the exact same inept figure he drew seven years before.

but with different pouches

different more

Why has he never just created a character like The Pouch, with every inch of human anatomy obscured by countless pouches? Play to your strengths, Rob!

I mean, he kind of has, multiple times over

ha, i know y'all hipsters out there used to watching me.... but don't watch me... watch my feet

I'm Drawing As Fast As I Can

(The Rob Liefeld Story)

POST FEET SWEATIE

the hipsters have lots of pouches these days, so we're really in a Liefeld or post-Liefeld world

i haven't seen any giant ponytails emerging straight out of the top of otherwise shaved heads, but we are moving back to bushwick in a few weeks so i will keep y'all posted

kudos doc casino on the footwork reference

Why has he never just created a character like The Pouch, with every inch of human anatomy obscured by countless pouches? Play to your strengths, Rob!

why must you constantly underestimate this man

I love that the pouch gun is firing... a pouch

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

Agreed - tho the intersection of gun & left hand still isn't quite right.

that literally is the best Liefeld drawing I've ever seen

OMG, I...I honestly thought I was just being a wisenheimer.

It's simultaneously his best and most self-aware drawing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLFNU_-K54M
Only watched bits of it but was amused by Liefeld saying "you can have a sword and a gun!" reminding me of an image Sic posted above. He does an impression of Alan Moore talking about Pulp Fiction and a bit about Stephen Platt hating him now.