Rolling Comic Books 2020 Visions

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

Here's a note of some hope from the always excellent Beehive Books that I am passing along here to those that can use it:

We're instituting a pay-what-you-can policy on our digital editions. If you can't afford our prices on eBooks, just shoot us an email at info @ beehivebooks.com, and we'll send you any of our titles free of charge.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 3 January 2020 19:34 (eight months ago) link

Was just thinking about 2020 Visions yesterday! Love early Delano but never got around to that one.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 January 2020 19:37 (eight months ago) link

TIL the Bryan Talbot Grandville books are a direct reference to a 19th century French artist: http://www.tcj.com/j-j-grandville-a-matter-of-line-death/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=j-j-grandville-a-matter-of-line-death

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:48 (eight months ago) link

https://www.polygon.com/comics/2020/1/9/20995875/politics-in-comics-dc-marvel-superman-trump-lois-lane-art-spiegelman

honestly, ewing's immortal hulk strikes me as the most explicitly political book in mainstream comics; it just doesn't go TRUMP TRUMP FACEBOOK TRUMP in the text

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:15 (eight months ago) link

It's been coming pretty close recently!

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:55 (eight months ago) link

indeed, but i love that ewing allows the subtext to be that; it allows him to get utterly crazy with the story without running afoul of marvel's twitter troublemaker policies

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 17:00 (eight months ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jX3OujYIH

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 January 2020 23:57 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Going to a Kieron Gillen “Guardian masterclass” tomorrow in London on how to write comics and stuff. Will report back! I’ve quit Die as I found it too difficult to follow/boring but I generally like his Marvel stuff (more than the indies tbh)

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 17:58 (seven months ago) link

Was caught unaware of the new Forbidden Planet Glasgow. To start with I was dismayed by sheer quantity of merchandise and more of the bloody Funkopop but as I was leaving, I realized there is an upstairs (exclusive Frank Quitely art created for the stairway?) and there's more of everything and some new stuff the never had. More prose books than they've had in years (admittedly a lot of it looks like old stock), so I was quite impressed overall. Hope this goes well.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 February 2020 03:10 (seven months ago) link

Funkopops are everywhere and are the most loathsome things.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 04:15 (seven months ago) link

They recently opened a huge retail store in Hollywood: https://www.funko.com/hollywood-1

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 05:28 (seven months ago) link

Funkopops are everywhere and are the most loathsome things.

OTM, just fucking hideous.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:27 (seven months ago) link

The funkopops and other merch are, needless to say, what keeps Forbidden Planet Glasgow afloat. Certainly not comics or graphic novels. If and when the funkopops craze dies away, I imagine a number of comic shops will be in pretty dire straits financially.

It's nice to have more space to browse in Forbidden Planet Glasgow - the old Buchanan Street shop was a no-go zone on a Saturday, it got so crowded - but their new back issue section is rubbish. Poor selection and high prices.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:35 (seven months ago) link

tbf I avoid the Forbbiden Planet in London because it mostly feels like a shop for geek culture merchandise, stick to Orbital and Gosh which seem to be keeping afloat (knock on wood)

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:38 (seven months ago) link

I suspect they do keep some shops afloat, but if that is what it takes, let the industry die.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 11:06 (seven months ago) link

Comic shops have had to rely on this kind of merchandise to stay float for decades, whether it's collectible card games or beautifully detailed busts of questionable taste. I'm fine with it. GameStop/ThinkGeek occupies a lot of that market, and modern chains like Newbury Comics and FP make it something like 95% of the store.
(Though I do kind of want to let the industry die to kill its ridiculous ordering system.)

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 13:35 (seven months ago) link

funko pops are the backing currency of comics stores, much like petroleum underpins the petrodollar

mh, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 14:58 (seven months ago) link

These vast seas of inert, blankfaced fuckwit things, huge pockets of landfill in waiting.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 20 February 2020 02:27 (seven months ago) link

but enough about the current ruling class, let's talk funko pops

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 February 2020 02:30 (seven months ago) link

lol

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:43 (seven months ago) link

i dunno who at marvel thought that 2020 was the perfect time to introduce a character called 'brittania' (not 'britannia' for some reason) draped in the union jack as part of something called 'the union' but i suspect it's not gonna be entirely well-received on this side of the pond

They wanted her to give them heroes. Meet Brittania in "The Union" #1, coming in May. #MarvelComics pic.twitter.com/EFpW956OBH

— Marvel Entertainment (@Marvel) February 18, 2020

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:48 (seven months ago) link

Last year, the main comic book mart in London gave over a large part of its floorspace to funko pop dealers - they drew an almost completely different crowd from the usual smelly old comic book fans - much younger, many more female fans. So I think there is the possibility of using these (basically harmless if useless) model toys to broaden and grow the comics audience a little bit; not sure most comic book stores would know how to go about this tho.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:49 (seven months ago) link

It's not entirely clear most comic book stores would want to!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:53 (seven months ago) link

dunno who at marvel thought that 2020 was the perfect time to introduce a character called 'brittania' (not 'britannia' for some reason) draped in the union jack as part of something called 'the union' but i suspect it's not gonna be entirely well-received on this side of the pond

dunno if he created the characters but this series is written by Paul Grist

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:58 (seven months ago) link

I mean, Captain Britain is already a thing in Marvel, and the team will also feature, er, Union Jack.

Debuting in a five-part series spinning out of the forthcoming Empyre storyline, The Union teams Union Jack — a hero who first appeared in 1976’s The Invaders No. 21 — with four all-new characters, each one representing different countries in the U.K.: Snakes from Northern Ireland, Kelpie from Scotland, The Choir from Wales and team leader Britannia.

So yeah I'm going with Britannia as the least worrying of these, particularly if she's darker without the light source that appears to be coming from her cleavage.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:03 (seven months ago) link

hmm, maybe it deserves more benefit of the doubt then, but either way someone at marvel marketing needs a starter guide to uk politics xp

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:03 (seven months ago) link

'the choir' from wales is cracking me up tbh, maybe this will be good after all

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:04 (seven months ago) link

I'd argue investing more in manga produces the same result. Customers in Gosh and Orbital (and the Gosh reading group!) pretty young and diverse.

Not that I begrudge comic stores stocking some of those funkos.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:07 (seven months ago) link

I think Snakes might actually be a clatter of snakes in a trenchcoat!

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:08 (seven months ago) link

snakes in a trenchcoat / two bits

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:08 (seven months ago) link

yeah I'm going with Britannia as the least worrying

call her by her name

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:19 (seven months ago) link

Her name's Britannia.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:26 (seven months ago) link

It's ok. I know how it's spelt.

— paul grist (@mistergrist) February 18, 2020

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:29 (seven months ago) link

feel we should honour and respect the intent of the legal author itt

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 20 February 2020 11:49 (seven months ago) link

well, there it is

Why have Marvel created a UVF mural? https://t.co/710LwfR30l

— Jamie (@jamieplsstop) February 20, 2020

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 20 February 2020 16:02 (seven months ago) link

I hope the funkopop owners and their inheritors believe in recycling instead of binning when the time comes to decide.
One of the greatest comic shop successes had to be one with the least craft.

Are all big manga successes ones with anime versions? Are some fans reluctant to read unless there is a version to watch?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:10 (seven months ago) link

For all the stereotype of geek culture being for loners I think there might even be too much emphasis on community and sharing because nobody seems to want to try anything unless there is versions in different mediums, merchandise and a busy fanbase ready to talk to you. Surely all the crap like funkopop is just to show other people your bedroom and all the stuff you like?

Just imagine book and music stores being half merchandise. Funkopop of bands and writers you cant even find in the store anymore.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 23 February 2020 15:46 (seven months ago) link

large US chain Barnes & Noble is about 1/4 random merch like that and fancy notebooks!

mh, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:04 (seven months ago) link

... and record megastore Amoeba Music is basically half merchandise these days!

Ticket Tout (morrisp), Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:06 (seven months ago) link

(well, maybe 1/3)

Ticket Tout (morrisp), Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:08 (seven months ago) link

I’m not sure what it’s like in 2020, but five years ago the physical store chain that sold the most vinyl records in the US was Urban Outfitters, which is a clothing/miscellaneous junk chain. Most records sold overall was Amazon.

I wouldn’t be surprised if B&N moved more graphic novels and trade paperback collections of comics than local comic shops in a lot of areas

mh, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:26 (seven months ago) link

Funko Pops are easily found in all chain bookstores

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:32 (seven months ago) link

Great fucking walls of the things.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 February 2020 01:15 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gq3qVqJL10
Fun!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:47 (six months ago) link

Diamond not shipping anything after 4/1. Death of the direct market?

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 March 2020 22:13 (six months ago) link

Hah! The way we live now - how will covid-19 change us?

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 23 March 2020 22:25 (six months ago) link

I am gonna be really sad if my local shop goes under, I was already a patreon patron :(

Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 23:18 (six months ago) link

Marvel already made a Heroes-World-style attempt to wipe out the DM last week, by offering enormous pandemic discounts to (in functional effect) online mail-order retailers

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 23 March 2020 23:36 (six months ago) link

I should probably email my local shop and ask them what they want me to do... I'm sure they'll stay open as an eBay store as they did before they had a physical storefront, but I'll be sad if they end up closing down, even with their problems getting my holds every week.

Nhex, Monday, 23 March 2020 23:40 (six months ago) link

Yeah, I picked up the Free Comic Book Day preview, which takes us up to the creation of Captain America and the first encounter with Stan Lee. Thought the use of first person narration was a bit of a risky move that mostly paid off, although if anything it made Kirby sound more... linear... than he tended to be in interviews - does the full graphic novel list sources? I'm hoping that this will at least nudge Evanier a bit into completing his Kirby biography.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:47 (one week ago) link

I know I am wrong, but I have never been especially moved by Kirby's work. Handing in my ILC badge.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 10:51 (one week ago) link

I mean, it's hell of al lot of work, in different styles and genres over 40 years, not to be moved by. Once Kirby hit his mature style in the 1950s almost everything he drew was pretty magnificent, and some of it could be surprisingly elegant. Even when his drawing chops declined in the late 70s, you'd still get glorious psychedelic pages that are genuinely visionary and have worn far better than some of the more 'relevant' superhero stuff, imho.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:16 (one week ago) link

I think he's best when his dialogue and his art are working together towards a heightened affect - everything is urgent, everything is alarming, if people are sitting around at a picnic then you can only assume that their mental machinations are drowning out the shuddering squeals of monstrous machinery happening just out of the panel. (okay, the terrible alliteration was more a Stan Lee thing)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:30 (one week ago) link

But both threads are definitely an acquired taste!

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:30 (one week ago) link

I think it's also easy enough to just not be able to get with non-modern superhero comics, or indeed superhero comics at all.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 12:32 (one week ago) link

I'm sure it's a lack in me, definitely.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 13:07 (one week ago) link

Again, there's lots of Kirby stuff that's in other genres apart from superheroes (although yes, the 60s Marvel era is what he's best-remembered for now).

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 13:19 (one week ago) link

I'd recommend his Fourth World stuff and his 2001 adaptation to those who aren't otherwise onboard. The closer you can get to unadulterated Kirby, the better.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 13:31 (one week ago) link

Now I'm one of those 'wrong' Kirby fans who doesn't particularly like the Fourth World stuff, or at least doesn't hold it in such high regard as many (I prefer pretty much all of the other early 70s DC stuff - Kamandi, the Demon (Kirby's most underrated series imho), even The Losers. ) The early 4th World comics are marred by some especially poor Vince Colletta inking (talk about adulterated JK!) and the whole thing would have benefitted from stricter editorial control/advice, although not necessarily from Stan Lee-dialogue/captions. Kirby was so stuffed with new ideas he sometimes lacked the discipline and focus to stick with a consistent storyline - and sometimes he simply lost interest (I think the original plan with the New Gods was to hand over the three linked titles to other creators, something that DC were never go to play along with, having 'captured' their rivals' key artist).

Once Mike Royer came aboard as Kirby's main inker at DC, things obviously markedly improved visually and yes, it's a much 'purer' version of the Kirby aesthetic - although it seems clear that the general readership preferred Kirby inked by someone like Joe Sinnott, who smoothed out some of the rough edges in Kirby's pencilling. The 2001 Treasury edition was inked by Frank Giacoia, an excellent veteran inker who really preserved the power in Kirby's work while at the same time giving everything a nice crisp line finish.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:02 (one week ago) link

Also, the pasted on Superman heads in Kirby's Jimmy Olsen books are so jarring and inappropriate that I find it hard to look at those issues.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:04 (one week ago) link

FYI, the Scioli bio touches on many of the points in your post. I don't know exactly how fact-based it is (although, to answer your question upthread, there are a number of sources cited), but it gets pretty deep into the weeds.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:06 (one week ago) link

I'll give Scioli's Kirby book a shot sometime; I was reading the early bits on Instagram last year and it was intriguing. It'll probably hit the local library system sooner or later.

Nhex, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:08 (one week ago) link

I really, really like the unhindered, unedited quality of the Fourth World material. Kirby was such a fount of pure creative energy, at times it's like staring directly into the Source Wall. Overwhelming, bewildering, thrilling.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 14:09 (one week ago) link

70s Kirby is my favorite Kirby, honestly

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:44 (one week ago) link

late 60's thor is prob mine

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:49 (one week ago) link

though new gods is hard to argue with

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:49 (one week ago) link

Apart from a couple years of FF and Thor I find him unreadable, but genuinely love him in separate panels

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:23 (one week ago) link

brings up the question of "readability" as it involves images. His stabs at copy, assisted or otherwise, tend to be unreadable but the images (and sound fx) alone tell more of the story than many superhero genre writers can.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 18 September 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link

It's weird but on a drawing level I prefer his work in the 40s and 50s but on a design (costumes, settings) and composition level I think he peaked in the 70s.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 September 2020 18:46 (one week ago) link

Yeah I like him an imagemaker first and foremost, so fwiw I don’t think his work would’ve been better (perhaps the opposite!) if he’d only been paired with a good writer

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 September 2020 19:17 (one week ago) link

the less "other writer" there is, the more readable Kirby is. Simon & Kirby collaborating as a team: clear and coherent. Gerber writing something pitched exactly at Kirby's 1980s level of wackiness and rage at injustice: good stuff. Mark Evanier doing the odd tidy-up or copy-edit on Kirby's syntax: the balloons have the same spirit as the individual drawings and storytelling, just a great charge of the author's strengths. Stan trying to fill half the panel with entirely redundant enuniciations, or outright contradictions, of the action being powerfully depicted: gtfoh you jealous sad-sack.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Friday, 18 September 2020 22:41 (one week ago) link

Yes, I think this thing of Kirby as imagemaker is all well and good and true to some extent, but ignores his own commitment to narrative storytelling throughout his career. Again, according to Evanier, Kirby was surprisingly indifferent about inkers, because he felt it was almost impossible for any kind of professional to fuck up the panel-to-panel continuity - the story - established by his very complete pencils. Kirby only swapped Mike Royer for Vince Colletta as the Fourth World inker when he found out Colletta was showing the pages to people in the Marvel offices prior to printing - and Colletta was known for erasing backgrounds and other details in Kirby's Thor pages when it was too time-consuming to ink them. And when Stan Lee and John Romita and Roy Thomas and others instructed artists to 'follow' (ie copy) Kirby's work at Marvel, it was his especially dynamic way of telling a story that they wanted someone like John Buscema to imitate (it seems clear that Stan in particular favoured the more elegant, illustrative style of a Romita or Buscema while, ruefully or otherwise, knowing full well that no other Marvel artist could match either Kirby's inventiveness AND his ability to engage the reader and stir their emotions.)

Ward Fowler, Saturday, 19 September 2020 01:59 (one week ago) link

Ward, the fact that you keep dropping knowledge that I only just learned from Scioli would seem to suggest that his book is fairly accurate + granular.

Wessonality Crisis (Old Lunch), Saturday, 19 September 2020 02:05 (one week ago) link

xxp good summary, sic

mh, Saturday, 19 September 2020 03:34 (one week ago) link

Didn't know this was coming out
https://www.blackgate.com/2020/09/17/fantasia-2020-part-xvii-feels-good-man/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 September 2020 19:10 (one week ago) link

I think it's already rentable VOD

Nhex, Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:28 (one week ago) link

Yep, just finished its digital "run" via one of the shuttered arthouses here.

Furie and the director were on Marc Maron's WTF a few weeks ago, and Furie kept referring to the original Boys Club issues as "zines," RIP Alvin

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:43 (one week ago) link

i saw it; it was okay? not deeply revealing and sorta necessarily overstructured to force a redemptive arc on it. Furie seems like a tremendously sweet guy.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 19 September 2020 20:51 (one week ago) link

Passmore is great
https://hyperallergic.com/586973/sports-is-hell-ben-passmore-koyama

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 21 September 2020 15:37 (one week ago) link

one helluva title page

Nhex, Monday, 21 September 2020 15:50 (one week ago) link

and Colletta was known for erasing backgrounds and other details in Kirby's Thor pages when it was too time-consuming to ink them

I saw a blog with a bunch of these compared to Kirby's pencils and the final product and it's shocking how much he just decided to not do

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:48 (one week ago) link

I'm curious about that notorious Colletta defender who was around several years ago. I often suspected he was a relation of Vince but I don't know if anything was found out.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:02 (one week ago) link

I think Eddie Campbell and Walt Simonson have both defended Colletta's work on Thor - I think their main argument is that Colletta gave Thor a distinct feel that distinguished it from Fantastic Four, X-Men, Avengers, Sgt Fury etc. My counter-argument is that while that's sort of true about the earliest issues of Thor that Colletta inked (he's quite good on things like fur textures), the quality soon dropped off and by the end of the run the finished results are just ugly and slapdash, a travesty, even putting aside the business of erasing pencils. When Bill Everett (beautifully) inks the last few issues of Thor drawn by Kirby, the difference is obvious, throwing into stark relief the inelegant heaviness of Colletta's brushwork and cross-hatching.

Colletta's 1950s work, mainly on romance comics, isn't too bad at all, and he was a surprisingly effective inker on Alex Toth on occasion. But I've just been reading an Essentials volume some of the 1970s Englehart-written Avengers, pencilled by George Tuska or George Pere and, inked by Colletta and they're REALLY painful to look at in black and white, without colour filling in some of the absence of detail. Really wretched stuff.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 21 September 2020 20:18 (one week ago) link

Yeah I cannot get on board with any sort of vinnie colletta rehabilitation. A vandal.

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Monday, 21 September 2020 21:06 (one week ago) link

I liked what he did until I found out what he didn't do.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:16 (one week ago) link

there’s a lot of emphasis on getting product out the door and I got the impression Colletta was fast

the bosses like that, and artists handing in stuff late tend to forgive some lapses in inking/coloring, from what I’ve heard

mh, Monday, 21 September 2020 23:27 (one week ago) link

the bosses like that

allegedly C0l3tt4 got lots of his work despite the quality of the output because he was allegedly connected to various low-grade mob guys and would allegedly supply call-girls to alleged editors

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 21 September 2020 23:33 (one week ago) link

that might not hurt your career, either!

mh, Monday, 21 September 2020 23:37 (one week ago) link

post Yeah, Colletta was definitely one of those go-to guys when a penciller was horribly late on a book. But again, when you compare his stuff to other last-minute deadline savers like Mike Esposito or Frank Giacoia, it's still just as ugly as fuck. Colletta was also apparently pretty canny when it came to playing office politics and the like, perhaps partly because he 'saved the day' so often for grateful editors - he was even DC's art director at one point in the 1970s (the late comics writer Martin Pasko once joked in an interview, "I was up at the DC offices, petting Vinnie Colletta's guide dog...")

And according to Roy Thomas, Colletta was popular with the readers; the issues of The Invaders that he inked over Frank Robbins' pencils sold better than those inked by the far superior Frank Springer - perhaps because he 'dulled down' the wonderful manic contortions of pure, unadulterated Robbins.(Roy is also the source of the call-girls story, iirc - he said that Colletta once tried to get him to appear in 'compromising' photos with some 'models' that Colletta had escorted up to the Marvel offices.)

It's hard to know if the mob rumours are just Italian stereotyping or basically true - the definitive history of comics and organised crime still needs to be written. It is a fact that Charlton Comics had mob connections (and Colletta got a lot of work out of Charlton in the 1950s) - and the mafia certainly had an interest in magazine distribution.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 21 September 2020 23:47 (one week ago) link

the issues of The Invaders that he inked over Frank Robbins' pencils sold better than those inked by the far superior Frank Springer

dunno what this is but I'm now imagining crime comics with car chases in, drawn by Robbins & Springer, and they look great

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 00:40 (one week ago) link

The Invaders was Roy's first extended foray into retro-necro continuity - it was set during WW2 and featured the original Captain America, Sub-Mariner, Human Torch etc.

https://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/07eee32bc373a77c2e360818760b8ec0.jpg

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:41 (one week ago) link

retro-necro continuity

lol

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 10:36 (one week ago) link

(the late comics writer Martin Pasko once joked in an interview, "I was up at the DC offices, petting Vinnie Colletta's guide dog...")

this is a fucking quality burn btw

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 15:05 (one week ago) link

It's hard to know if the mob rumours are just Italian stereotyping or basically true - the definitive history of comics and organised crime still needs to be written. It is a fact that Charlton Comics had mob connections (and Colletta got a lot of work out of Charlton in the 1950s) - and the mafia certainly had an interest in magazine distribution.

― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:47 AM

I vaguely remember there being a book about this, or maybe it was just part of the book?

I can't confirm it but there was a story claiming that the first Batman + Superman teamup was done for the mafia.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 19:20 (one week ago) link

explains a lot

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 21:19 (one week ago) link

Glad to find out that Neal Adams's expanding Earth/Philadelphia Experiment conspiracy theorist side hasn't made him a Q/COVID/MAGA psycho. (I would still give most of the money I have to not have to spend a day driving him around again.)

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 05:22 (six days ago) link

Lol. I can only imagine how crazy he is from his recent Batman work. A likeable sort of crazy, though.

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 12:01 (six days ago) link

Ann Friedman, Ira Glass, & Tim Heidecker are each hosting an Online Screening + Live Stream Q&A of the 2020 Sundance-Award winning doc Feels Good Man this weekend Sept 25-27th! Only 250 tickets available per showtime at https://t.co/JPwTdcqnUx pic.twitter.com/1F8YGdku9v

— Floating World Comics (@floating_world) September 23, 2020

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Friday, 25 September 2020 03:38 (four days ago) link

"For the love of Asgard, keep your Oversword sheathed!"

Every so often Stan puts down a line that gives me a chuckle.

earlnash, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:21 (three days ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.