Rolling Comic Books 2023

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Superman Family cover is by Neal Adams, btw

Ward Fowler, Monday, 27 November 2023 11:11 (six months ago) link

Last night I finished the Daredevil Frank Miller omnibus (does not include Born Again or the John Romita Jr stuff). It was okay, but not as great as I was expecting. I suppose it had a lot of depth compared to what was beside it in the spinner rack, and the art was frequently quite good. Maybe I had to have read it back in the day. I probably need to give up on Frank Miller, who I’m beginning to suspect is over-rated. Or, I’m not really much of a super hero guy.

Cow_Art, Monday, 27 November 2023 12:02 (six months ago) link

xp Thanks, that's good to know!

This field is required (morrisp), Monday, 27 November 2023 17:33 (six months ago) link

Something I should have mentioned: I love this establishing location shot where a man's bare ass takes up most of the space
https://www.comipress.com/files/special/mangazombie/fukushima/Saintmuscle005.jpg

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 November 2023 21:23 (six months ago) link

xxpost The early 80s Miller DD's were unlike anything else on those racks, believe me. I was snatching them up each month as they appeared. They were something else.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 27 November 2023 22:25 (six months ago) link

Amazon wouldn't publish that Saint Muscle review because they said it looks like an attack on the author! I guess "crazy" "cruel" "serial killer" is what upset them. This is really dumb. Not as worrying as youtube but dumb.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:35 (five months ago) link

Another great falseknees monthlong story (he does one every year now)

Starts here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CzH5BnDLWhn/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 December 2023 11:53 (five months ago) link

Picked up an issue of Spirou as is my obligation whenever visiting France; can report Blutch is working on a Lucky Luke story and it looks lush.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 10:40 (five months ago) link

Yes, hoping Cinebooks issue an English language translation of that next year.

I've actually been buying floppies this year - well, the facsimile editions that Marvel and DC are putting out. DC in particular are reprinting some incredibly rare (and expensive) Golden Age comics; I particularly like having the ads and the back up strips, really puts everything in context and - just for a moment - you can imagine yourself buying Batman 1 fresh off the newsstand.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 12:22 (five months ago) link

Is it scans or recolored?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 7 December 2023 03:34 (five months ago) link

The Marvel facsimiles are all recolored; the colour on the DC ones, especially the Golden and Silver Age reprints, seem much more faithful to the originals without necessarily being scans.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 December 2023 08:40 (five months ago) link

Signs I'm getting to old for superhero comics: I spend a lot of time thinking about the practicality of things. Any sort of headgear that pokes out is going to constantly get knocked around. How many times does batman's little horns get donked while getting in and out of the batmobile? Does the batmobile have extra clearance to allow for the horns (or ears, I guess). Capes are always going to be a problem. If you use the bathroom and you have to sit on the toilet, that cape is going to be on the ground all around the toilet, or else you have to wad it in your lap I guess.

At work I wore a tape measure quite a bit, and that only stuck out an extra inch on my hip. I had to be pretty conscious of it to avoid knocking it on things. I can't imagine Cable with all of his pouches and tubes and extraneous bits.

Does Swamp Thing leave a trail of mulch behind him, wherever he goes?

How exactly is Cyclops visor (or his cool ruby sunglasses) held in place while all of that concussive force is pushing against it?

Do superhero costumes get laundered delicate or heavy duty, like towels?

Cow_Art, Thursday, 7 December 2023 17:41 (five months ago) link

Finished Monica by Daniel Clowes tonight. Enjoyed it a lot, especially the linked short story format. I need to reread it to get a better sense of how the stories fit together; most are very obvious but there are a few that stuck out as oddballs. The only thing I had read by him before was Ghost World, which was more relatable, but this was bigger and conveyed so much dread.

Cow_Art, Friday, 8 December 2023 05:47 (five months ago) link

Capes are always going to be a problem.

Watchmen definitely did a number on capes. Good point on Cyclops’ glasses. I’ve always assumed costumes start smelling funky pretty fast… I remember at least one Spidey that dealt with this.

This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 05:19 (five months ago) link

Found a really lovely piece by Gene Colan (inked by Alcala) in Marvel Preview 23, it starts with a photo sequence and really doesn't look like it's leading into any series. It stills burns me that there's so many good anthology comics and the rights are still tied up for so many of them, unlikely to be reprinted for a long time. I love short pieces but my gripe with anthology comics is that unless you're cutting out the pages, you'll accumulate hundreds of pages of comics you don't care about. I have cut out some pages from anthologies years ago but I can't bring myself to keep doing it. So rather than buying back issues I tend to save pages I want from the pirate sites.

Skywald's comics seem to have fallen into public domain and I see a bunch of print-on-demand reprints of them, some people are doing the same with Charlton. Dark Horse are reprinting Creepy and Eerie in softcover now, I hope it isn't too late for more artist specific collections (which are compromised by Harris owning all the Warren era of Vampirella).

I think this kind of thing might be what sent me down the road of mostly hating work for hire arrangements.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 December 2023 19:54 (five months ago) link

I recently learned about Vampirella… is it worth getting into any of that? The character seems interesting, but her Wikipedia article is absolutely baffling in its complexity.

This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 20:29 (five months ago) link

The thing about the Warren era of Vampirella is that the bulk of it was just an anthology comic like Creepy or Eerie. The main stories that kicked off each issue started off looking like sort of a comedic (unfunny) sexy adventure thing but most of the issues I actually read she was just like a detective with two very old people as sidekicks, just played totally straight.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:14 (five months ago) link

I downloaded a scanned copy of one of those issues recently, but only read the brief dystopian sci-fi story in the middle (which was unrelated to Vampirella).

This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:58 (five months ago) link

Hardly only about comic books, and I guess most of us have heard these arguments before, but this is the best summation of them I've read:

https://buttondown.email/riteshwriter/archive/8the-grift-cycle/

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 11:15 (five months ago) link

Yeah.

Maybe the writers here will get a decent deal but this looks like IP farming to me and I'm worried this will only get more prevalent
https://dnyuz.com/2023/12/10/the-book-world-still-isnt-diverse-dhonielle-clayton-is-trying-to-change-that/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 21 December 2023 00:45 (five months ago) link

Says at the end that the adult side of the industry has been reluctant and I hope it stays that way, they should be giving publishing deals to people who will own their copyright.

Been looking at Mort Meskin again, his fine art too and it's amazing how varied his style could be. Wish there was bigger collections of his work, need to get the biography soon. His official site is really good.
http://www.mortmeskin.net/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 21 December 2023 01:21 (five months ago) link

With you on this, inherently dislike that idea of IP farming/work-for-hire as a gateway for minority artists to get exposure, but I suppose that has always been the case in Marvel and DC comic books, and it has worked out well for some.

Nhex, Thursday, 21 December 2023 17:22 (five months ago) link

The Vampirella covers were always sexier than the interiors.

The series did attract a lot of talent.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 21 December 2023 19:30 (five months ago) link

RE: Mort Meskin - I have Out of the Shadows, a pretty dece anthology of Meskin strips that Fantagraphics put out in 2012, shot from the comics and looking OK on the whole. Just flicking through now, you can really see the influence on Ditko, especially in a Kid Crusaders strip from 1946. Anyway, this appears to be p cheap still on Euro Amazon and I'm sure elsewhere.

RE: Vampirella - at one point Hammer had the rights to make a Vampirella film, but nothing came of it:
https://www.dmu.ac.uk/about-dmu/news/2019/september/calling-all-horror-fans-legendary-hammer-film-vampirella-to-be-performed.aspx

Ward Fowler, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:46 (five months ago) link

I do have Out Of The Shadows, it seems like a good selection but not sure how much of his DC work it covers if any, is the copyright still tied up? I see that some p-o-d publishers are doing series like Mortified and others, I've seen publishers like this take a chance and bootleg old DC and Marvel stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 22 December 2023 19:56 (five months ago) link

I think the most obvious influence of Meskin on Ditko is the clusters of floating heads (often utilized in scenes about public opinion or opinions of a certain social circle haunting someone).

I can't recall which comic, but I'm certain Ditko used this photo (Susan Strasberg in Scream Of Fear) as reference, maybe even more than once.
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/630644754084908847/

There's an interesting part in Ditko Unleashed where it compares Ditko's idealized Randian statues (in Blue Beetle) to art of idealized soviet workers and made a brief argument that Ditko was conscious of this. I wonder how much control Rand had over her cover art and how much has been the interpretation of editors/publishers, and the tastes of her fans.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 24 December 2023 18:34 (five months ago) link

I take back what I said about Frank Miller’s Daredevil. I had read the big omnibus
doesn’t have Born Again, so it was underwhelming. Just read Born Again and it’s really great, I get it now. The coloring in those issues is amazing.

I’m keeping up with the Dark Horse Creepy/Eerie paperbacks which are pretty fun. Not as good as EC comics, but the variety in artwork makes it enjoyable.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 24 December 2023 20:17 (five months ago) link

Creepy/Eerie headz might want to check out the completely complete (including unpublished) Web Of Horror for rolling comics 2024 — Wrightson, Kaluta, Reese &al.

bae (sic), Sunday, 24 December 2023 21:33 (five months ago) link

hadn't heard about the unpublished pages!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 24 December 2023 22:41 (five months ago) link

Rolling Comic Books 2024

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 31 December 2023 11:50 (four months ago) link

Happy New Year! I rhave big love for Mort Meskin as well, esp. his wild early Vigilante splashes. His stuff was often so kinetic but the quality varied wildly as he seemed to have personal issues later on that affected his drawing.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 1 January 2024 19:16 (four months ago) link

Somebody did a book as a duel tribute to him and Umezu (unusual combo) recently but I havent seen it. He's one of many artists I think might be more celebrated if the rights weren't tied up in so many companies. I think a lot of his work was collaboration too. I ordered the biography, I really like reading about that era of comic artists.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 1 January 2024 20:42 (four months ago) link


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