i'm no genius with this stuff but my sense is that AT&T needs to pay off a huge chunk of debt and that IP would probably take care of that and then some to satisfy their shareholders? seems like the fastest way to clean up their books and the most intangible asset... the superhero goldmine is still a relatively recent thing and there's no guarantee that this won't go the way of cowboys and indians in the 2030's.
licensing publishing to marvel/disney would probably work as a getting-to-know you strategy while they work out numbers and terms, sure.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:23 (five years ago)
I think they're looking to sell off DirecTV, while the DC IP is fueling all those hit movies (I didn't realize that even Shazam! was a hit).
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:28 (five years ago)
Marvel is so bad at publishing that Disney license their catalogue to a company run out of an unheated, leaky house instead
― huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:28 (five years ago)
superheroes come back every 25 years, give or take!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:29 (five years ago)
sure in one form or another but the current boom is both unprecedented and frankly unsustainable.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:30 (five years ago)
everybody betting their trillion dollar companies on the surety that Teen Titans 6 is gonna rule the (nonexistent) box office in 2032 confounds me. but then i'm just some dude on the internet, what do i know
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:32 (five years ago)
xp true, i agree with that
Feel like the horrific wealth accumulation and corporate hegemony of this century is increasing and we're more likely to see things consolidating vs break-ups in the long run. Besides climate disaster I'm not sure what's going to even slow down that trend
Right now it does feel like a safe bet something from the Massive IP Farm will the biggest money-makers in 12 years. But who can know for certain
― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:40 (five years ago)
In fairness, they also have the Scooby-Doo and Space Jam franchises.
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:40 (five years ago)
to clarify - yes the current superhero boom is unsustainable and will morph into something else at some point
but economies don't make sense anymore. how did Elon Musk make $133 Billion this year?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:42 (five years ago)
I mean, he didn’t.
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 21:54 (five years ago)
I just like that they plan to combine the Robert Pattinson and Ben Affleck universes by bringing together Ben Affleck and... Michael Keaton?
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:04 (five years ago)
are they gonna computer unage him or will batman be bald
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:15 (five years ago)
this is a pretty good article about what we were just talking about:https://musingsonmouse.substack.com/p/star-wars-nostalgia-fatigue-and-marvelsjulia alexander's "Musings on Mouse" substack is well worth subscribing to
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:23 (five years ago)
are they gonna computer unage himI didn’t even consider this (just assumed it would be a Dark Knight thing); but now I’m expecting the worst, lol
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:41 (five years ago)
xp is there a way to get that through RSS instead of email?
nah they're not gonna do it. assumed they're just make him Flashpoint Batman or Batman Beyond-era Bruce Wayne (like they did with Kevin Conroy in the recent Arrowverse crossover)
― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:52 (five years ago)
nm - found it searching on Feedly
― Nhex, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:55 (five years ago)
They should bring back Val Kilmer. https://static01-nyt-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/static01.nyt.com/images/2020/05/07/magazine/10mag-kilmer/10mag-kilmer-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 23:58 (five years ago)
as palpatine?
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 00:01 (five years ago)
Unrelated, this new Superman looks like the dickhead from Accounts at a company barbecue:https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/supermanandlois-suit-1-e1607554527118.jpg
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 03:21 (five years ago)
Not a new Superman by any stretch as he has portrayed Supes on multiple seasons of Supergirl already. He's dece.
― Telly Salivas (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 03:42 (five years ago)
Cool. He still looks like he’s asking a receptionist to “put Deez Nutz on hold.”
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 03:49 (five years ago)
it's on like krypton
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 04:15 (five years ago)
I mean, the point is that he's Dad Superman. If you put a moustache on him he'd look like the dad from Inside Out, so job done.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 09:39 (five years ago)
Kyle MacLachlan (dad from Inside Out) actually has voiced Superman, so I guess it all ties together?
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:20 (five years ago)
A somewhat younger MacLachlan would have perfect as a (live action) Superman / Clark Kent, btw
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:22 (five years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/MBIMkUK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/HEGa0Yh.jpg
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:04 (five years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/9w6Gmht.gif https://i.ibb.co/wLXDRRV/giphy.gif
https://i.imgur.com/az295lc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/olwVPOp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ufLJXDp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JCf7d41.png
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:13 (five years ago)
<3
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:20 (five years ago)
https://i.imgur.com/U2TP0jI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/75AGLJc.jpg
enhance
https://i.imgur.com/Z1Ssg2H.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/JzgbaZp.jpg
― shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:52 (five years ago)
Anyone here read the “Wonder Woman: Dead Earth” miniseries? Sounds interesting.
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Thursday, 31 December 2020 01:35 (five years ago)
it's good.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 31 December 2020 15:56 (five years ago)
Guys.
They're changing Black Adam's name to
(hang on)
(wait for it, it's worth it)
SHAZADAM
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 February 2021 12:44 (five years ago)
Gesundheit!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 5 February 2021 12:47 (five years ago)
His mother's name will be changed to Shazmartha.
― shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 5 February 2021 19:18 (five years ago)
Okay, u just about made me choke on my lunch there
― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 February 2021 19:25 (five years ago)
Holy shit
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 6 February 2021 09:32 (five years ago)
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/dc-comics-buyout-in-the-works-from-fans-with-lots-of-money/
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:54 (five years ago)
(Also don't know why it didn't occur to me before but: Shazadam and Boogaloo Shrimp)
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:56 (five years ago)
that sounds disastrous
― Nhex, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 14:45 (five years ago)
t/s: dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes on a salary vs dc is run by a bunch of clueless rich assholes who also own the company
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 15:08 (five years ago)
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/other-people-who-have-heard-about-the-big-dc-buyout-pitch/
So weird to think that there's a pool of high roller comic nerd venture capitalists floating around out there. Like they clearly have accrued their wealth from some entirely different, non-comics thing but for some reason comics are the toilet they're eager to flush their money down (to which I say: welcome to the club).
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:31 (five years ago)
gotta burn them $GME profits!
― Nhex, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 16:38 (five years ago)
Bleeding Cool understands that it was former DC President Diane Nelson's decision to move DC Comics from relatively expensive offices in Manhattan to insanely expensive offices in Burbank that was the biggest factor in the decision.
I have been assuming this was likely a major factor, lol / nice to have it semi-confirmed
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:50 (five years ago)
Why are the offices in Burbank more expensive? (It's not mentioned or explained in the link.)
Some quick Googling suggests that midtown Manhattan is #2 in the country, while Burbank is much, much cheaper -- on average, of course.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:52 (five years ago)
DC moved from 666 5th (now owned by Jared Kushner, and a major liability that he's tried to leverage through various of his governmental roles through the last four years) to across the road from Letterman around... 1993? '95?
When Levitz left all the way back in 2009 and Diane Nelson took over, moving the offices to the West Coast was once again considered—and a whole west coast office that was staff-ready was already built— but Levitz, or someone, had signed such a long lease on the offices that to break it would literally have cost more than the move.
Dc Entertainment staff began using that Warners-built office in 2010; in 2011 they signed a https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-entertainment-readies-move-new-2051786 million lease even closer to Warner, but it took a few years to purpose-build another space in the floor they leased in that tower. In 2013, DC Entertainment and relocated DC Comics staff moved in; in 2015 DC Comics as a whole was moved to the west coast.
MAD was a major canary in the coalmine of my thinking, too.
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:29 (five years ago)
NB that Nelson told the Wall Street Journal in 2013 that the awkwardness of judging the office Halloween costume contest via video conferencing is what convinced her to require the entire New York staff to move a few buildings away from her, or to pay out their redundancies.
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 22:32 (five years ago)
Haha
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:04 (five years ago)
that linking glitch should say "$16 million lease" btw
― shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:18 (five years ago)
Well, Nelson's sure sounds like an opinion one should throw millions of dollars at.Can we say for certain that DC/WB/AT&T isn't some Producers-esque scam whose architects desperately want it to fail? Because Occam's Razor suggests...
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:34 (five years ago)
AT&T seem all-in on WB; they've been aggressively remaking the studio (to the dismay of longtime staffers). I don't know how they feel about the publishing business, though.
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 23:40 (five years ago)