Who's the most famous superhero who has never died?

Yeah I think (pushes glasses up) we should perhaps restrict discussion of this topic to characters from earth-616 and/or (takes hit from inhaler) characters such as Miles Morales or Old Man Logan who survived Secret Wars and immigrated to the newly-formed Prime Earth (returns to perusal of AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide).

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A long time since I've read it but surely the only acceptable Marvel answer is Fred Hembeck?

Fred Hembeck ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED the SJWs, Punisher killed the Marvel Universe iirc

The latter two died with the multiverse in Secret Wars.

I’ve never read a comic featuring her, but surely Muslim Ms Marvel wasn’t created until about 30 years after Secret Wars?

2015 Secret Wars, bruh.

Surely I get a No-Prize for catching a sic mistake. Surely I do.

have TMNT ever died?

apparently they sort of killed Donatello for a few issues

gonna have to say it’s no mistake to not know there was a remake of Secret Wars

It's not a really remake of SW, more like a Marvel version of Crisis on Infinite Earths. And it was quite good, better than almost any other big crossover Marvel or DC have ever done, including CoIE and the original Secret Wars.

Shit, it just occurred to me: was Black Panther among the deceased 50% in Infinity Gauntlet? That would take him out of the running, if so.

I just checked my omnibus, and yeah, he was among them. After Thanos's fingersnap they have a scene at the Avengers headsquarters where a video wall shows images of all missing superheroes, and T'Challa is one of them.

Though if IC deaths also count, pretty much all the heroes who survived the fingersnap die in the later fight against Thanos. I think Silver Surfer, Starfox, Warlock & co, Dr. Strange, and Hulk are the only ones who survive, maybe a couple of others too?

IC = IG

i feel like hembeck has died multiple times in his own cartoons btw

Yeah I thought he might have done.

Man, I've been going about this all wrong.

Super Grover is clearly the answer here.

Oh wait I forgot about the time he was gruesomely disemboweled, nm

maybe a better question is who's the most famous superhero who has never died for at least five months/ in a particularly public way that attracted comicdom's attention.
because they all died in one story or another and then came back as that is a sort of defining prerequisite for being a superhero.
But Supes, Batman, Spiderman, Hulk, Iron Man all died in multi-chapter NOT A HOAX NOT A DREAM storylines
so if we're going by that metric, i would maybe posit wonder woman? can't remember an extended "she daid" run of books... somebody wanna remind me when that happened?

this thread condensed:

they have all died

i don't think kitty pryde ever died

xxp
The Sesame Street universe was destroyed/rebooted as part of the HBO move, and only Snuffy and Guy Smiley survived in the life raft.

because they all died in one story or another and then came back as that is a sort of defining prerequisite for being a superhero.

this is only the case post... what, 1980?

had Matter Eater Lad ever been resurrected?

probably by Giffen!

kitty died in Morrison's xmen

According to Wikipedia, Tenzil Kem is present in some “Retroboot” Legion stories.

xpost Wait, what? No. She wasn't even in Morrison's NXM iirc. She did ride a giant projectile into deep space in Whedon's subsequent run but she was more just feared lost forever than presumed dead.

xp when? i don't remember that

In Superman #694, Matter-Eater Lad is revealed to have been masquerading as Mon-El's friend Mitch, owner of a local cafe. He reveals his identity by stepping in to save a woman trapped in a burning car, allowing Mon-El to continue fighting the larger threats.

As revealed in Adventure Comics (vol. 2) #8, Matter-Eater Lad is part of a secret team sent by the late RJ Brande to the 21st century to save the future in the Last Stand of New Krypton storyline.

rmde

(Total aside, but I just saw a news blurb the other day positing that Bendis may be doing a Legion book. You're welcome, fans!)

did Matter-Eater Lad ever die such that he could be resurrected?

xp Yeah, I saw that tease... sheesh

RE: Kitty - WHEDON not Morrison; memory failed me. She was presumed dead! Not being in the book means you're dead!
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/kitty-pryde/4005-3548/forums/she-cant-be-dead-can-she-416473/

I don't think Kitty's fate at the end of Whedon's run counts as death, because, A) by the end of the story she was still not dead, just incapacitated, and B) Whedon wrote it so that any future writer could easily bring her back, which is indeed what happened.

no way she never died and she was not presumed dead (which anyway isn't the same thing as being dead)

xp

Buuuuut at any rate she did die in Secret Wars so she's out of the running unfortch.

kitty pryde wasn't in secret wars!

xp thank god, i was afraid this was gonna turn into a semantic nerdfight about the death of kitty pryde
wait never mind apparently we're gonna do this

Every mention of Secret Wars itt is threatening to devolve into a 'who's on first?' routine.

FTR: the 2015 Secret Wars involved the wholesale destruction of the Marvel multiverse and everyone in it with the exception of like a dozen or so characters who managed to escape that fate through various means.

I honestly think it makes more sense to count what happened to Kitty Pride as an example of what we're talking about, rather than something like the entirety of the Marvel Universe being gone for a couple of pages in Secret Wars. I know she definitely didn't die, but I like Old Lunch's notion that she was 'feared lost forever'. Which is kinda also what happened to Batman in Final Crisis. It's not as good a thread title: 'Who's the most famous superhero who has never been feared lost forever?' But it's kinda what we're talking about, no? Noble sacrifices, leaving the title for a while, as other characters fill the void.

I have an extra-nerdy answer to

have TMNT ever died?

which is that in the exclusive bonus mini-comic included in TMNT role-playing-game post-holocaust supplement Road Hogs, all the TMNT are dead except for an ancient, dementia-riddled Raphael, living in a post-nuclear-war future

Old Man Raph is the winner then

The logical conclusion of this kind of thing (effective superhero immortality) is those stores that Marvel likes to do — including recently — in which someone like Reed Richards or Steve Rogers or Thor or Logan is the last being alive at the end of time, witnessing the heat death of the universe, etc.

Who’s the most famous super-character (hero or villain) to have died and stayed dead? No clones, no alternate universe or timeline versions, etc.

I guess that was already sort of discussed above.

I started a thread on that subject a long time ago:

Major superheroes/villains who died and have stayed dead - are there any?

those stores that Marvel likes to do — including recently — in which someone like Reed Richards or Steve Rogers or Thor or Logan is the last being alive at the end of time, witnessing the heat death of the universe, etc.

Sniffing through Alan Moore’s bins for old teabags they can dry out & try to use again.

Which Moore story did that, I can't recall?

Wildstorm Spotlight #1

How could I have forgotten such a popular + feted work.

it was pretty feted at the time!

https://www.tor.com/2012/07/09/the-great-alan-moore-reread-mr-majestic-voodoo-and-deathblow/

That seems to have come out years after Books of Magic #3 tho, which has a similar plot.