The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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That recent Joker origin thing mentioned WAY upthread may have been the Ed Brubaker-penned The Man Who Laughs business.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

Daniel (upthread a bit): yes, a lot of the people who bought Cerebus at the store where I worked (until around issue 150) were women. I don't know how "sympathetic" Sim's women characters are, aside from Astoria, who's just fascinating. Jaka kind of looks sympathetic for a long time, until you realize she's been coasting on the goodwill of the way she's presented but actually is not at all a good person...

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

8. Galactus (Fantastic Four etc.)

http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villain/galactus/galactus_watcher.jpg

(185 points)

The finest product of Jack Kirby's fevered imagination, Galactus wasn't a villain at all – in fact, he doesn't behave any worse than the Jehovah of the Old Testament, who would have thought nothing of
annihilating humanity if it were required to keep himself afloat. Galactus is above morality; when the Fantastic Four set out to stop him, they're not doing anything so petty as battling evil, but fighting for self-preservation, just as he is. And it's all brought
to life in Kirby's breathtaking art; if Winsor McCay was the master of larger-than-life landscapes, Kirby was the master of overscaled action. (Justyn Dillingham)

He's a HUGE GUY with a SILLY HELMET and he EATS PLANETS! Plus he has a NAKED GUY ON A SURFBOARD as a herald. One hell of a crowd-pleaser when you're drunkenly telling your non-initiated friends about comic book lore (Daniel Reifferscheid)

Greatest moment: His first appearance. Nobody knew how far Stan and Jack could and would go - UNTIL GALACTUS. (Vic Fluro)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Ew, sorry about the line lengths there.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, my Joker complaints seem petty now.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Does Galactus have a personality, or is he appealing exactly because he doesn't have one, like a force of nature?

I remember reading some story where Galactus was revealed to be Reed Richard's son... What the hell was that?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Another chance to post my favourite image of Galactus:
ihttp://www.threerivertechreview.com/Galactus.jpg

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

They ruined Galactus when they gave him trousers.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

The same thing happened to Donald Duck. Sad, really.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ stubbly Richards

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Uatu's pose has always struck me as odd in that panel.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Has Galactus actually been used well in a story since FF#50?

(NB I nominated and voted for him - this question is no bearing on his magnificence as a purple giant with a bin on his head)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I kinda liked the GALACTUS NEED DIALYSIS story from Byrne's run.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I remember the Byrne sequence in which Earth's Mightiest Heroes (and possibly Hawkeye) managed to knock Galactus over as being rather splendid.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I rather liked when the Marvel Zombies ate him - after having had the Silver Surfer as a starter.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

That was the very picture I was going to use before I found a more Kirbyish one, Joe!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I've been meaning to have it made into a t-shirt since I first saw it.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

7. Enid Coleslaw (Ghost World)

(190 points)

http://myspace-367.vo.llnwd.net/00506/76/30/506410367_s.gif

Hopey for a new generation! Though I have no idea who the one for now is.

Sometimes the most obvious choice is also the best one. Ghost World is Dan Clowes' finest achievement not because there was a movie based (ever so slightly) on it, but because it's a work of remarkable sympathy and insight about two girls preparing to enter the world of adulthood, one of whom succeeds and one of whom stalls. Clowes' beautifully elliptical storytelling style, which focuses on one moment of epiphany after another, is well suited for the story of Enid and Becky, who thrive on the weird discoveries they make in random places – until that pleasure evaporates along with their friendship. It's Enid who captures our imagination more, though, perhaps because her fate remains uncertain at the story's end. (Justyn)

Enid is one of the smartest, sharpest characters in comics - the graphic novel is at once a celebration of that and a fairly pitiless look at the traps smartness and sharpness can drag you into. (Tom)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

PS is that your real email address, Mark Co?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

For the benefit of the three people who haven't already seen this factoid, which blew my mind when I realized it like five years late: "Enid Coleslaw" = anagram of "Daniel Clowes."

― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 6 November 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Enid from Ghost World.
Haha, no way.
-- Jordan (jordan...), October 26th, 2006.

pwned by Tuomas :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

(mind blown)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

On the other hand Enid is the perfect Daniel Clowes character, since she works as a critique of hipsterism and intellectual elitism, but on the other hand, unlike most Clowes characters, she refuses to be a mere vehicle and becomes sympathetic despite herself.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

How many hands are you working with, Tuomas?!?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

haha i have this ghost world tijuana bible (athens ga ladies and gentlemen) i'm tempted to scan.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

hopey is not smart!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

please do blount

― pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

> ghost world tijuana bible

Haha! I'd love to see this.

― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

SECONDED.

― Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 6 November 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

DO IT!!!! Please!

― veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

andrew f - yes that is my real email

― Mark Co (Markco), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

I had to holler out the car window on the way to a Halloween party this year to compliment this girl on the sidewalk dressed as Ms. Coleslaw on her awesome choice of costume. However we were driving kind of fast so I'm sure "HEY ENID, BITCHIN' COSTUME" probably just sounded like some drunk asshole in a car yelling cuss words at strangers. In typical lame ass fashion, when asked I explained to my friend who was driving that it was "from a comic book" instead of "Thora Birch in Ghost World" and she said "Was that bitch supposed to be Punk Batgirl or something and if so why would she think that was a good costume." This is my story.

― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

Also yes pls post ghost world tijuana bible.

― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

if i can find it i will - i can guarantee you folx right now it ain't living up to yr anticipation, plus i think it was alot of injokes can't remember. i WISH i still had the blankets tijuana bible cuz it was hilarious and SOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG (incest among other things).

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

all x TJ B's now and forever EIGHTHED

finest achievement

#22!

― occasional coleslaw (kit brash), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, there's also Sarah Oleksyk's "Stained Blankets," of which the first two pages can be seen at http://velvetgrindstone.blogspot.com/2006/07/tear-for-kramers.html , along with her "Jeffrey Brown by Jeffrey Brown"...

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't there a blankets parody in an angry youth comix also?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

OMFG "jeffrey brown by jeffrey brown" - TOTALLY FWDING THAT TO MANY PPL TODAY.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah's a freakin' genius. I also highly recommend her 3-minute animation "Le Lapin Jaloux," http://velvetgrindstone.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-uploaded-my-short-animation-le-lapin.html .

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

This is not how I imagined the Enid Coleslaw discussion would go.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's AWESOMELY FANTASTIC!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I saw JB give a very unprepared talk in Toronto but he seemed quite likable. He talked about Wolverine most of the time. That comic is very spot on though.

Also omg expressive rabbit

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

JB by JB = megaclassic

― Adrienne Begley (sparklecock), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

5-tie. Lucy Van Pelt (Peanuts)

(192 points)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a6/Lucyvanpelt.jpg/250px-Lucyvanpelt.jpg

Lucy was the most terrifying character in the history
of comics - proud, sadistic, utterly self-centered and
hateful. The most famous running gag in Peanuts
involved her lying to Charlie Brown about an act of
pointless treachery and then offering a hypocritical
excuse for it; in an early episode Linus is seen
crying after Lucy tells him she wishes he'd never been
born. "Beneath the surface there's something tender,"
Schulz once said of her. "But maybe if you scratched
deeper you'd find she's even worse than she seems." (Justyn Dillingham)

Best Moment: Pulling the football; away just as Charlie Brown was about to kick it. (David Simpson)

And a worst character vote from Huk ("What a bitch.")!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Good grief, Huk!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

So... Who we have left are Batman, Calvin, Captain Haddock, Buddy Bradley, and...? Wolverine? Popeye? I have little idea who the fifth one might be.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Lord Fanny wouldn't have made it this far, though William Gull might still have a small chance.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

It'll be interestin to compare this one to greatest comics poll. Are there any great comics without great characters, or vice versa?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Longshot Comics by Shane Simmons
"Here" by Richard McGuire

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

"A Glass Of Water" by Morrison & McKean - great comic, the character herself isn't remarkable

― occasional mongrel (kit brash), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

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