Did I fuck that up? I am Lex-level bad at this shit.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link
Those IDW Kamandi and Mister Miracle and New Gods original art reprint books torment me every fucking time I go into Forbidden Planet in Glasgow.
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link
just saw the Kirby-ponies for the first time, that's great
― soref, Friday, 28 August 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
genuine Kirby horse:
http://www.writeups.org/img/inset/Lonar_h3.jpg
― soref, Friday, 28 August 2015 19:08 (nine years ago) link
Yes, he is great on horses, animals in general - it's why kamandi is sooo good
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11913880_1030244710321587_119517387468542795_n.jpg?oh=030311100d74b3863ecc451321d06876&oe=56844FE3
― new noise, Friday, 28 August 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link
It was worth waiting for wasn't it! TY
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
I think that was taken in 1975 and it was the first (and last?) time they ever met in person
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 August 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link
can someone recommend a good cosmic/psych Kirby collection? folks are hitting me up for xmas ideas and it would be nice to have some cool 60s/70s comics to read. Dr. Strange? i haven't read much of any of it so whatever is taken to be his "best". i prefer it erring on the side of weird/cosmic rather than superhero teams....
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 22 November 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
Dr. Strange is Steve Ditko dood.
FF Omnibus vol 2, Marvel Masterworks Thor Vol. 6, all the 4th World omnibuses
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 22 November 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
Celestials is also great. Kamandi.
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 22 November 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link
Reading "Hand Of Fire:The Comics Art Of Jack Kirby" at the moment and I can't recommend it enough.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 22 November 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
2001 is fairly cosmic/psych of high regard
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link
I think by 'Celestials' Shakey means The Eternals, which is def the high point of Kirby's 70s freaky unfettered cosmic shit, if not necessarily the most coherent or complete.
The Omac collection is pleasingly compact (just six issues) and I've always felt that The Demon is a bit underrated - Kirby's mad version of Universal Monster horror
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Sunday, 22 November 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
Haha yes wtf me
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 November 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link
2001 for sure
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 November 2015 03:11 (eight years ago) link
2001 has not been collected though has it?
Eternals is a good call.
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link
Heh, checked my Omac collection and it's actually eight issues not six, and most of 'em are unfortunately inked by D. Bruce Berry rather than Mike Royer, so visually they are not quite as primo as some other seventies Kirby. They were also pretty much the last things Kirby drew for DC before moving back to Marvel, and at times they feel a bit half-hearted. Still, Buddy Blank!
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link
2001 has not been collected but I snagged the lot for pretty cheap a few years back.
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
Far too many of the collections mentioned itt are out of print (and selling for ridiculous cash, natch).
― The Squirrel Who Punched His Dad In The Neck (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
Mr. Big can "Rent-a-city" for ASSASSINATION!!!
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
Torrents have been a boon for my kirby exploration
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
http://www.artinamericamagazine.com/news-features/magazine/genius-in-a-box/
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 January 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link
also: Nadel has beef w Evanier apparently
The text is tiny & grey on phone but I can't see Nadel saying anything about Evanier there?
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
(unless yr suggesting that he's implicitly poo-pooing Evanier's 1/3 of a biography on its merits, rather than talking abt the larger culture?)
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link
((Generally I can't see their aesthetics getting close enough to even have a disagreement - Picturebox vs a guy who doesn't seem to have read a comic book or seen a fictional TV show since the minute he first got paid to write either, as a teenager))
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:56 (eight years ago) link
http://www.tcj.com/88491-2/
― new noise, Thursday, 7 January 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link
Link on that page to a beautiful tom hart interview.
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 January 2016 01:04 (eight years ago) link
i worked with tom tangentially on a project where he was teaching animation to a group of teenagers. they loved him. he's a sweetheart of a guy and rosalie lightning is heartbreaking.
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 06:31 (eight years ago) link
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/09/marvel-jack-kirby-and-the-plight-of-the-comic-book-artist/498299/
― schwantz, Thursday, 1 September 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
glad they mention Mantlo, that guy's story is a real tragedy
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 September 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link
anybody wanna go with me?
Crossing Kirby: The “King of Comics” in context of social issues and “fine” artThe groundbreaking exhibition “Comic Book Apocalypse: The Graphic World of Jack Kirby” at California State University, Northridge in summer 2015 and its accompanying catalog advanced interesting ideas about this visionary pop artist’s cultural significance and his intersection with issues of commercial creativity, representations of otherness, personal trauma and more. Panelists include the exhibition’s curator Charles Hatfield (CSUN), the catalog’s co-editor Ben Saunders (University of Oregon), artist and “Black Kirby” co-founder John Jennings (UC Riverside), playwright Crystal Skillman and writer/comics historian Fred Van Lente (who collaborated on the play King Kirby), designer Rand Hoppe (curator, Jack Kirby Museum & Research Center), writer/filmmaker Ann Nocenti (catalog contributor, legendary scripter of Daredevil and, recently, the Kirby-created Klarion), artist, activist and Kirby scholar James Romberger, and artist/writer Amy Reeder (currently co-scripting the Kirby-inspired Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur). Moderated by catalog contributor, cultural critic and comic writer Adam McGovern.WHEN - Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 7pmWHERE - The 165th meeting of the NY Comics & Picture-story Symposium will be held on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 7pm at Parsons School of Design, The New School, 2 West 13th Street, in the Bark Room (off the lobby). Free and open to the public.
Panelists include the exhibition’s curator Charles Hatfield (CSUN), the catalog’s co-editor Ben Saunders (University of Oregon), artist and “Black Kirby” co-founder John Jennings (UC Riverside), playwright Crystal Skillman and writer/comics historian Fred Van Lente (who collaborated on the play King Kirby), designer Rand Hoppe (curator, Jack Kirby Museum & Research Center), writer/filmmaker Ann Nocenti (catalog contributor, legendary scripter of Daredevil and, recently, the Kirby-created Klarion), artist, activist and Kirby scholar James Romberger, and artist/writer Amy Reeder (currently co-scripting the Kirby-inspired Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur). Moderated by catalog contributor, cultural critic and comic writer Adam McGovern.
WHEN - Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 7pm
WHERE - The 165th meeting of the NY Comics & Picture-story Symposium will be held on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 7pm at Parsons School of Design, The New School, 2 West 13th Street, in the Bark Room (off the lobby). Free and open to the public.
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
I cannot make this date, but if you get the chance, can you ask the panel why there has yet to be a single substantial biography of Kirby (I sort've know the answer, but am pruriently interested in the politics of American Kirby scholarship)?
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
I've wondered that as well - Evanier thing was cool but slight
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
Wasn't that Evanier book (King Of Comics) supposed to be a preview of a much larger book?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
I think I recall Evanier saying he is working on the definitive bio. (xp)
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
i'm friends with Charles H and I can ask his opinion on that q if I go. His book seems like the best 'about Kirby' thing out there at this point but it is nothing like a bio.
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
(Hand of Fire)
I’ve been working since Jack passed away, which is 14 years now, on a humongous-sized book about his life. It’s still a few years off in the future, so when the Harry N. Abrams Company asked me to do an interim book to tide people over, I took a look at what I was doing and realized the massive book I was writing was getting too mired in minutia to the point where I thought a lot of ordinary civilians wouldn’t be able to make their way through it. So I thought I’d do a sort of simplified version first.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
I know about the Evanier biog, which I guess is semi-official. But that was first announced a very long time ago; I'm surprised that nobody else has really gone for it in the meantime. I will devour the Evanier biography, if and when it appears, and can see it being the standard work; but there are many other biographies and books about Kirby still to be written.
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
Are there that many good bios of comic creators?
I like Blake Bell's Ditko book a lot but there will probably be another in the future by someone else. Bell's Everett book was a bit disappointing because the actual bio and art examination couldnt fill up much room and the rest was only of interest to really serious Marvel historians. This is after Bell promised that people will wonder why there haven't been more books on Everett. I love some of Everett's phases and his life was interesting but it seemed like hardly anyone knew enough about him to fill out a proper book.
I think most who made a living from constant comics output don't get to have very interesting lives.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
Steranko and Kirby's lives are both p fascinating imo
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Definitely Kirby. I don't know much about Steranko but he does seem more colorful and outspoken than most of his peers.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
There's been bios of Marston within Wonder Woman books but it'd be great if there was enough to gather for a full book.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
Bill Schelly's Kurtzman bio and Robert Harvey's Caniff bio are both excellent.
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
Yep those are both very very good books.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I was going to mention the Kurtzman and Caniff books, both great reads. There's a Herriman bio coming out in December that looks pretty interesting.
― spastic heritage, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link
I love "Hand Of Fire"
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link
Harry Thompson's Herge bio is not as good or researched or capable of conveying the wonder of his art as the same author's Peter Cook bio, but it's still delightful
Bob Levin's Most Outrageous is naturally more concerned with investigation than telling the story of Tinsley's life, but it gets that in there, as well as a lot of critical assessment of his art and career, and you'd be hard pressed to find a more intriguing subject for a cartoonist's bio
― Shakey δσς (sic), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link