Marvel Comics blabbery

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This is true. I will, however, probably buy the new, complete Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD omnibus sight unseen despite what I've heard about the earlier trade.

Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 July 2015 19:50 (ten years ago)

Jon, I wouldn't say that the (re)colouring on the epic collections is 'hideous' - I'm guessing that it's matched to the original comic printing in most cases, and as Old Lunch says, on the whole it's understated - they haven't added flashy computer colouring effects to old Kirby/Ditko pages. In comparison to the early hardcover Masterworks - truly some of the nastiest recolouring I've ever seen - they're a model of taste and restraint. But it is still obviously colour produced on a computer, so 'feels' wrong, and I would be more interested in Marvel reprints shot directly from the comics themselves. Of Of course,Marvel kept very very poor copies - if at all - of their early superhero titles, so that almost from the start, reprints of the Silver Age material have involved greater or lesser amounts of 'correction', redrawing etc, that often significantly departs from the original artwork and its first printing.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 10 July 2015 20:05 (ten years ago)

hmmmmm
http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/did-stan-lee-steal-spider-man-from-a-brooklyn-costume-shop/

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:47 (ten years ago)

The costumes looks nothing alike, beyond what you'd get if you got two guys to design different spider-man costumes. I am curious how common the <something>-Man name would have been back then, though.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:12 (ten years ago)

I think there was a Superguy or something back then

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:22 (ten years ago)

there was also whatsisname, Batfellow

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:23 (ten years ago)

Aquachap

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:24 (ten years ago)

Amazing-Man, Atomic Man, Bronze Man, Bulletman, Cat-Man, Doll Man, Dynamic Man, Hawkman, Hourman, Hydro Man, Master Man, Mighty Man, Plastic Man, Robotman, Rockman, Sandman, Skyman, Starman, V-Man, Wonder Man

are all from the 40s

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:28 (ten years ago)

but seriously, while it's usually safe to assume that Stan Lee never thought up anything worthwhile by himself, the costume thing seems like a stretch

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:29 (ten years ago)

If you look at the mask and squint a little from a distance you get a little bit of the same feel as Marvel's Spider-Man but... yeah, this could be completely unrelated.

I mean, two independent people come up with spider-related costumes and they both use webs? What are the odds!

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:48 (ten years ago)

xpost Ahem, Stripperella?

Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 17:56 (ten years ago)

you're right, I stand corrected

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:03 (ten years ago)

some day we will figure out the composite of characters he absorbed traits from to come up with his Stan Lee character

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:05 (ten years ago)

PT Barnum and Robert E Lee iirc

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 18:22 (ten years ago)

he saw a funky flashman costume at some point

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 19:03 (ten years ago)

http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.com/post/124153395043/can-you-explain-why-marvel-thinks-that-doing-hip
uh

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 July 2015 18:44 (ten years ago)

David Brothers is patient on that:

http://tumblr.iamdavidbrothers.com/post/124166143967/can-you-explain-why-marvel-thinks-that-doing-hip

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 July 2015 19:08 (ten years ago)

booming response there, hope marvel pays attention

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 17 July 2015 08:38 (ten years ago)

still bigger than hip hop

Upright Mammal (mh), Friday, 17 July 2015 14:10 (ten years ago)

It looks like the response from David Brothers had already been written and reposted by Brevoort, along with another response that was responded to by Brevoort wherein he fleshed out his response, prior to any of this popping up in the thread.

Something Called Fudge (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 July 2015 15:08 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Ok this made me chuckle
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/deadpool/news/?a=124258
Marvel’s Latest Joke Is A Playful Jab At DC Comics
Check out the new Deadpool "Candy Varient" in which Marvel takes a playful jab at DC Comics advertising department. For those who need to be caught up, read on after the jump

For those of you that need to be caught up, DC Comics stunned the comic book community a few months ago by stating that the June issues will feature half-page ads on story pages.
http://oi58.tinypic.com/34y65c6.jpg

tsrobodo, Friday, 21 August 2015 12:24 (ten years ago)

They stunned the comic book community that aren't old enough to remember when half-page ads were kind of a regular thing.

Not that they were a good thing or that I'm in any way advocating their return. Just saying, y'know, there's precedent.

Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 12:51 (ten years ago)

When are we talking about? I've been reading for a few decades and it doesn't ring a bell (but my memory is terrible).

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 12:55 (ten years ago)

Frequent practice on both Marvel and DC comics throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s at least

More egregious - Marvel's early 70s trick of blowing up a single page into a double page spread

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 21 August 2015 12:58 (ten years ago)

kinda amusing that marvel are decrying dc's commercial policies on the cover of yet another first-issue grab for those collector dollars

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 21 August 2015 13:23 (ten years ago)

Also, it's maybe not wise to draw attention to advertising practices being employed by the Distinguished Competition. Marvel's ad department might start getting ideas.

This seems particularly egregious with the price of floppies skyrocketing, but it just underscores my belief that the Big Two are pushing to make floppies as undesirable as possible before ultimately phasing them out altogether.

Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:35 (ten years ago)

most egregious: spelling ingest "injest" in the small print on that cover

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:37 (ten years ago)

or is that something americans do?

Credit: howtokeepapositiveattitudedotcom (stevie), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:37 (ten years ago)

only Americans who don't know how to spell

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 13:38 (ten years ago)

Well, given that the front cover is, you know, in jest...

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 13:57 (ten years ago)

americans: bad spellers, bad punners

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:05 (ten years ago)

There's a helpful little entry on this blog about Marvel's half page ads period:

http://hayfamzone.blogspot.co.uk/

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:09 (ten years ago)

I read James Robinson's FF run that led up to the present the other day. It's decent, but if anything it seems really rote compared to the crazy stuff Hickman was doing and the villain is underdeveloped. The kids seem... too childish compared to the other recent portrayals? I mean, they are kids, but after the Future Foundation run Val and Franklin are a couple of my favorites.

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:15 (ten years ago)

kinda amusing that marvel are decrying dc's commercial policies on the cover of yet another first-issue grab for those collector dollars

specifically on a variant cover

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Friday, 21 August 2015 14:41 (ten years ago)

I'm reading Infinity at the moment and resigning myself to the impossibility of getting caught up soon enough to read any part of Secret Wars in real time. For those interested, I'd break down the first year of Marvel Now! stuff (that I've read) thusly:

I think it's great and recommend it highly:
Captain America
Thor: God of Thunder
Avengers
New Avengers
Secret Avengers

I think it's quite good or at least appreciate the effort:
All-New X-Men/Uncanny X-Men/Wolverine and the X-Men
Uncanny Avengers
Young Avengers

I think it's, y'know, okay:
Fantastic Four/FF
Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Man
Superior Spider-Man

I'm just not that into it:
Avengers Assemble
Captain Marvel
Fearless Defenders
Indestructible Hulk
Nova
Thunderbolts

Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 16:07 (ten years ago)

The newest iteration (I think! it keeps iterating) of Secret Avengers has a Modok that is in love with Maria Hill

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 16:44 (ten years ago)

You just made me wonder how a physical relationship with a Modok would work so "thanks" for that.

Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 17:11 (ten years ago)

I assume there's a lot of head

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 17:47 (ten years ago)

that's the DJP I know and love

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 21 August 2015 18:01 (ten years ago)

lol, a+

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 21 August 2015 18:28 (ten years ago)

Two things I'd like to see in the wake of Secret Wars: 1) fewer title reboots (preferably zero of them, but this is the new world we live in) and 2) fewer mind-bendingly colossal threats to the earth/universe/multiverse. I'm digging Infinity thus far but, between the Builders and Thanos and the alternate earth incursions, the MU threat level has risen to the point where I don't know how anyone could top it.

Do you have or use horses? (Old Lunch), Friday, 21 August 2015 19:31 (ten years ago)

fewer mind-bendingly colossal threats to the earth/universe/multiverse.

feel like this is just the status quo for superhero comics from the 00s onwards. nobody just robs banks or fights crime or whatever anymore

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 August 2015 19:33 (ten years ago)

Hawkeyes does, to critical plaudits.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 21 August 2015 19:35 (ten years ago)

fwiw the above is what I liked so much about Ms Marvel; the threats were definitely rooted in neighborhood sensibility, routed through Inhuman concerns

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Friday, 21 August 2015 19:36 (ten years ago)

One of the downsides of the publishing side at Marvel is that they can go bigger and bigger and bigger with no increase in costs; they kind of forget to tell the human story. The MCU is kind of doing that neighborhood sensibility thing better, via the Netflix show(s), by virtue of sfx budget constraints.

rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 21 August 2015 20:05 (ten years ago)

Aaron's Thor is pretty good at doing both.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 22 August 2015 22:11 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

Warren Ellis's take on Karnak is a hoot. Well, maybe not a hoot, but very appealing.

Soule's Inhumans is less hooty, but there's an interesting thing about it: Steve McNiven, the inker, is billed ahead of Jay Leisten, penciler. Don't think I've ever seen that before. I know McNiven has the bigger name, but still odd and noteworthy.

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:05 (ten years ago)

It kinda drives me nuts that Marvel has stopped indicating in their solicitations whether something is an actual series or just a miniseries. I don't think a single one of their post-Secret Wars books were listed as miniseries but I can't imagine, say, Karnak continuing beyond the six issues Ellis writes before he moves on to something else.

I Was Picking Up A Teaspoon When Something Happened To My Spine (Old Lunch), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:15 (ten years ago)

I can sort of see the side of wanting to leave that status ambiguous in case it's a surprise hit. Has Ellis said specifically that he's only writing 6 issues?

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:23 (ten years ago)

Isn't that Ellis's thing now? Limited runs, self-contained story arc, on to the next thing?

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 22 October 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)


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