Just to expand a bit on my no-ipad post, I'm all for viewing comics in pixels — not instead of ink on paper, but in addition to — I just want to maximize the experience with my big-ass monitors at home. I have plenty of no-pic prose on the ipad to keep me busy until I get back to the house.
― the magnetic pope has sparked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it's like my brain can't keep hold of any X characters that weren't in the Claremont/Byrne or Grant Morrison eras, or, at a pinch, the movies. What is a Shatterstar or Gambit anyway? If they don't have good solo stories, I don't feel like I'm missing out.
LOSH is even harder because they're mostly all jockish white/orange dudes in similar costumes!
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
lol true. those LOSH jumpsuits tend to make a lot of them indistiguishable; probably why I tend to remember Karate Kid and Matter Eater Lad more than the rest.-Shatterstar is a standard Rob Liefield burly dude with swords instead of guns, but later, gay?-Gambit is your classical super-accented Southerner created by Claremont to compliment Rogue with a dash of 90s coolness and popped collar design. definitely key to early 90s X-Nostalgia
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
otm, they hide gambit on tertiary books now because he's so 90s
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
Not that I disagree, but he had a solo title (his third, I believe?) as recently as two years ago and is about to be featured in a solo film starring Channing Tatum.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah, Channing Tatum of 21 Jump Street and GI Joe fame! so 90s.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
well, 80s in the latter case but you get my drift
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link
Does Gambit have to be so 90s? X-Men must be the most constantly redesigned characters I can think of.
I think Bouncing Boy is the most memorable Legion member.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
besides the horseman makeover where he got darker skin, he's pretty much had the same design for 20 years, no?
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link
ok, maybe I am underestimating his current popularity. it's the whole "MON CHERIE" thing that will forever tie him to that era for me
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link
btw, I actually do have nostalgic fondness for Gambit in case it wasn't clear
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:46 (nine years ago) link
(... xp not to mention the headgear...)
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link
lol everyone had headgear in the 90s costumes, why because it's so cool
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
It was a boon to those in the '90s with excessive orthodontia who would've otherwise suffered torment from their peers.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link
trenchcoats and headgear. What more could you want?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
Pouches. As many as possible.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
The jacket has infinite pockets.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link
"it's bigger on the inside", he said to the ladies
― Nhex, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
lmao @ 'the x teat'
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link
soooo looks like things are about to go kablooey in the Marvel universe...?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
Gambit had more makeovers than that I'm sure. Some of these costume designs only last a few issues.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link
Nice that Marvel gets to do the 30th anniversary Crisis tribute
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Anyone heard about Marvel founder Martin Goodman being talked into publishing in the comic industry by an IRA member? Goodman was so grateful for the idea that he sent this guy money for many years. Is this covered in the Sean Howe book?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
which crossover storyline, shakey? hickman's has been running a really long time and it seems to be reaching completion
they also (spoilers) just set up a plot bit for the upcoming SECRET WAR
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link
I just saw a bunch of tweets from Perpetua re the following (he's at some Marvel event):
- The Ultimate universe is officially gonna smash together with the regular Marvel Universe, permanently- The new Marvel Universe will be remade from all the pieces from Battleworld - The Marvel Universe will be gone after Secret Wars #1, only Battleworld will remain- Alonso says they aren't erasing the history of Marvel, that's not broken, but the new Marvel will combine many things
can I just say... BATTLEWORLD
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
also lol @ "permanently"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Lol at Axel Alonso's attempt to do Stan Lee-speak: "It's the most co-ordinated event we've ever done."
KIDS THE CO-ORDINATION EXCITEMENT STARTS HERE
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:59 (nine years ago) link
are they going to leverage some synergy across platforms??!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
that shit always sucks, never lasts and fucks up any interesting storylines but goodi know it makes a chunk of change up front but it demolishes long-term engagement. fans should boycott.
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:01 (nine years ago) link
There were hints that 616 & Ultimate were going to moosh together somehow and Miles Morales was going to wind up in the "reg" M.U. -- I can't cite a source though.
― the magnetic pope has sparked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
Marvel has been pretty good the past few years! I feel like it'll probably be okay, or at least not suck as bad as Flashpoint.
If Jeph Loeb is involved all bets change tho
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
wtf
they have been introducing little bits all over the place that merge different universes/timelines in an interesting way lately and I have no idea why merging all things down to one line would be a good idea
they also gave their new time-traveling mutant a bunch of extra experience in a couple of the recent annuals and then shot her backward to talk to Xavier at the end of something last month, I think, which I figured was their way of backing out the past-X-Men from the present day
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Miles Morales has already made appearances with a number of 616 characters. That much has seemed inevitable for a while.
So basically they're cancelling the Ultimate line, and that's the only change that will probably still be true three-to-five years from now, when Wolverine is merrily romping through the universe once again.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, at the worst I hope it's Bendis
if it's Loeb then I'm going to stop reading Marvel
Crisis on Infinite Secret Wars III: The Nu-616
Yawn.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
The one thing I'll give Loeb mad props for is being in charge of Marvel's television projects and, by all appearances, not contributing in any way to the writing/plotting of Marvel's television projects.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
Ach, this is probably editorial's last chance to do an old-school comics-nerds-only clusterfuck before the movie and comics continuities align, and the X-Men are erased from existence forever. I'm sure it'll be a solid 5/10.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
It's worth noting that, prior to the Bendisification of the Marvel U in the mid-2000s, the last big line-wide crossovers were Onslaught in '96 and then Maximum Security four years later. This exhausting three or four events per year thing really only kicked into high gear towards the end of the last decade.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
I mean, event-wise what are they still tying up?
That goofy Axis junkSpider-Verse, which I think ends by then, but is already a multi-universe spanning eventHickman's multi-year Avengers epic, which is apparently the centerpiece with its world-smashingX-Men crossover w/the young/past X-Men visiting the Ultimate universeTime traveling new X-Men member Eva visiting Xavier in the pastThe young X-Men being in the presentWhatever the hell the Fantastic Four have been up to since I stopped reading
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, and Spider-Man 2099 and the X-Men 2099 being real and crossing over with the present, to some extent
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
I guess I was being awfully conservative with the 'three or four events per year thing' thing, huh?
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
These aren't events, per se, they're just the current storylines packaged. If anything, Marvel is realizing that the online collection/trade paperback route is where things are going and having discrete storylines or crossovers that resolve within a few months with a collection immediately dropping at the end fits the market. You can do a multi-chapter story with several chapters per month, end it more quickly, and then sell it as a package while there's still some buzz.
It kind of beats the old days where they'd have a giant crossover that took most of the year, had one story beat per month, and the individual monthlies were just "what is the Fantastic Four doing while this is going on"
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link
I said this was happening in (I think) last year's thread, via a Bleeding Ccol link that had characters clearly from other Earths on 616.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
I hope Spider-Ham stays in 616
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link
I would be down with that, a la Morrison's efforts to legitimize Captain Carrot.
― Ronald Raisins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link
fwiwhttp://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/rip-the-marvel-universe-1961-2015#.ho56yKXod
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link
“When you see the scope of the event, [you will] see what we’re willing to do. This is a place where we’re going to be bringing new pieces onto the board and taking old pieces off. You guys will be yelling and screaming, loving and hating in equal measure.”
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 23:40 (nine years ago) link
i guess the alignment with the movie universe was likely inevitable; hope they can get through this nonsense quickly and we can get to the inevitable jaden smith spiderman movie with as few tears shed as possible
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
Marvel is not in the business of publishing readable funnybooks, they are in the business of cross-purposing intellectual properties across multiple media streams also OMG NEW TOY LINE!!!!
seriously I dunno how anybody endures this shit with a straight face (says the guy who hasn't read a new Marvel comic since the 90s)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link
image + archie obv where the good comix are being made
― Mordy, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link