she's also responsible for inuyasha which is probably a little after both our times but is hugely popular as a cartoon/comic/cultural signifier in the west
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah, that's absolutely right
― Nhex, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
When I lived in Gainesville I had a brainy teenage friend who was a huuuuuge inuyasha fan
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
Hasn't Takahashi sold like a billion comics? And Ranma 1/2 was one of the most manga in the west back in the 90s, so I wouldn't really call her "unsung"...
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link
"Ranma 1/2 was one of the most popular manga..."
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:33 (nine years ago) link
But yeah, I still have a soft spot for Ranma, because it was the first manga I really got into back in the early 90s... Though after a while I got bored with the whole formulaic "will they or won't they" romantic tension, which seems to be a trope Takahashi has used in pretty much all of her comics... Maison Ikkoku had a similar formula, though more mature and romance-fiction oriented. At least she ended Maison Ikkoku with a proper closure, in Ranma she seems to have liked the Ranma/Akane love/hate thing so much that, after years of teasing a romance between the two, she didn't bother resolve it in even in the final issue, they just kept on bickering...
― Tuomas, Thursday, 18 December 2014 10:39 (nine years ago) link
We don't really have a news thread buthttp://www.thewrap.com/steve-carells-north-korea-movie-pyongyang-cancelled-in-wake-of-sony-hack/
― Nhex, Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
xp to Tuomas: though her characters are fantastically popular, her name is more or less unknown in America, even among comic circles
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 December 2014 14:44 (nine years ago) link
Ahem, out of print Moebius
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 December 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for the ahemories
Those Moebius Epic books seemed like they were promominently displayed in every comic book shop ever in the 80s, wish I'd picked em up
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 19 December 2014 10:05 (nine years ago) link
thank you
― Nhex, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
A lot of those comics on that forum are readily available in English.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
Some of them just came out very recently.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 19 December 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Which ones? I've seen Arzach in some foreign language printings, but nothing in English since that Marvel printing looking around on Amazon.
― earlnash, Saturday, 20 December 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
None of the Moebius stuff, I mean a lot of the other stuff on that forum.
I believe the people who hold the rights for solo Moebius work are extremely demanding. I think several people have tried to get them but it's too expensive for something with cult appeal like that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 21 December 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
Finally got piskor's hip hop family tree. So awesome.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 December 2014 02:22 (nine years ago) link
Yeah the incal reprint is the most recent english reprint.
xp
and that other Jodo/Moebius thing "The Cat" I guess...?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 22 December 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
"The Eyes of the Cat"
And Madwoman Of The Sacred Heart.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 December 2014 19:40 (nine years ago) link
After putting it off forever, I finally finished L'Incal a few months back and was less impressed than I'd expected to be. The first volume is terrific, then both writing and art kind of go down the tubes. I guess I like plotty Moebius more than mystical Moebius.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
That said as I am a comic fan and I never learn and I am super excited to finally read Airtight Garage &tc.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 December 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
i inherited an old-gen iPad and since i pretty much only wanted one to read comix on it fits my needs perfectly. so far i've loaded the following on it to read: the new Prophet run, the last year of adventure times, the recent scott snyder run of batman, a bunch of guardians of the galaxy and annihilation stuff (just saw the movie finally lol), manifest destiny, recent moon knight, recent ms. marvel, recent silver surfer, the multiversity stuff, and the united states of murder. oh, and the recent greg pak action comics. what else should i add? i kinda haven't been paying attention to superheroes since we last had those diamond shipping threads
― Mordy, Monday, 22 December 2014 22:46 (nine years ago) link
xpost'plotty' and 'less mystical' are not the first terms i wld use to describe airtight garage, fwiw
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 22 December 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I think Airtight Garage is him at his most experimental.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 December 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
what else should i add?
Kieron Gillen's Journey into Mystery is possibly the best superhero run of this dedace so far, though in order to fully get it you kinda need to be familiar with the Thor comics that preceded it (meaning Straczynski's reboot and Gillen's own Thor run, which are pretty good comics in themselves), at least read the Wikipedia summaries. Killen & Jamie McKelvie's Young Avengers run was also quite good (McKelvie in particular has a fantastic, crisp and detailed line), though its ending was bit meh, especially compared to the JiT finale, where Killen pulled that rare Morrisonesque trick of being totally meta and tearjerkingly sentimental at the same time.
And if you like teen superheroes, I would also recommend Christos Cage's Avengers Academy. It was quite uneven, mostly because the "Avengers" title in the name meant it had to be involved in various crossovers, even though it would've worked better as a fairly standalone title, a la Runaways... But the highs in it were still quit high, the school setting and the wide-eyed idealism made it feel like Claremont's early 80s X-Men, so if you dig that, you should dig AA too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:40 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah, and Saga by Brian Vaughan and Fiona Staples, of course! It's one of the best, and definitely the best-looking, American mainstream comics in recent memory.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:41 (nine years ago) link
Copra is the only good action comic of the last couple of years that I've read
(counting Prophet as sci-fi and the revival of Shaolin Cowboy as an older work. if Saga's the best-looking mainstream comic, mainstream comics are worse than I thought)
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 10:00 (nine years ago) link
You don't think Saga looks good?! I know some people don't care for Vaughan's writing tics, and sometimes they irritate me too, but I've never heard anyone not liking Staples art in it.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link
I'm with sic, I think it looks OK but I wouldn't say it was one of the best looking current comics.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link
Anyway, on the Vertigo side I'd recommend Mike Carey's and Peter Gross's The Unwritten, which is about to conclude soon. I guess it's in the Sandman/Fables continuum of urban fantasy with metafictional commentary on fables/stories, but the emphasis on meta is heavier than in those books, and Carey is quite good at juggling it with the more epic/thrilling fantasy stuff.
TBH, I'm not sure if Vertigo is putting out any other good titles at the moment... Is Fables still going on? It's been a few years since I last checked it, and it felt pretty stale already.
(xpost)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:12 (nine years ago) link
I didn't say it's the best looking of all current comics, just among American mainstream comics. (Which I guess includes Marvel. DC, Image, Dark Horse, are there any other big publishers left anymore?) But if you can point me to other ongoing mainstream series that look better than it, I'd be happy to check them out.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:15 (nine years ago) link
Though I guess I'm just a sucker for freaky/other-wordly character designs, and simple-but-grand, Moebius-style cosmic vistas, both of which Saga has plenty, so it's right up my alley. The latter in particular is something that I haven't seen too much in the American mainstream comics (except in cases where Euro artists have been hired to do them), the US tradition in cosmic comic art seems to be more in the Kirby/Byrne vein, i.e. complex, intricately detailed stuff with loads of lines.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:25 (nine years ago) link
Staples in Saga kinda reminds me of Jean-Claude Mézières in Valérian and Laureline, and that one is probably my favourite sci-fi comic of all time (particularly when it comes to the graphic design), so I'm just glad to see something like that being a success in the American mainstream.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:30 (nine years ago) link
that Mazzuchelli-cum-Ware Hawkeye series looked fantastic (I'll borrow a run and read it if someone wants to mail it!) but I think it's been cancelled. Sandman: Overture looking fantastic feels like it might turn out to be the only thing going for it.
Saga's perfectly readable from what I've seen (first two vols) but not visually remarkable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
are you reading Prophet?
― Gland Of Horses (sic), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:36 (nine years ago) link
Mainstream books currently (or very recently) worth reading:
Marvel
All-New Ghost RiderBlack WidowThe last year or so of Deadpool has been a blastFirst 6 issues of the new Magneto seriesAxis: Hobgoblin (against all odds)Loki: Agent of Asgard (ILX's own Vic Fluro)You said Moon Knight, Ms Marvel and SurferI've been enjoying Captain marvel but that might be just meAvengers: Arena (that man Fluro again)All New Invaders is kind of like James Robinson doing what he did at JSA with the Marvel Golden age heroesIron Fist The Living WeaponMark Waid's Daredevil BEFORE the renumbering/move to the West CoastElektra is very pretty but not that engagingI've enjoyed Cyclops but it's not for everyoneInhuman started well but has lost its way a bit in the last couple of issuesSUPERIOR FOES OF SPIDER MAN (maybe the only Spider book worth reading)Thor HawkeyeThe Doop miniseries was great (although you might need to read All New XMen to understand some of it, so maybe not worth bothering)Vic Fluro writes Vic Fluro's Mighty Avengers, maybe but WARNING GREG LANDThunderbolts by, of all people, Doug Moench
DC
Flash is still worth reading, nowhere near as good as immediately post-Nu52 but still a good bookGreen Arrow got really stylish about 18 months ago (so about #20?) and is often DC's best looking bookWonder Woman (the Azzarello/Chang book only - DO NOT GO NEAR #37 WHICH IS THE START OF DAVID FINCH PRESENT'S DAVID FINCH'S WONDER THE DAVID FINCH RETELLING OF DAVID FINCH'S WONDEROUS WOMAN. (In unexpected news, the first issue came out ON TIME and apparently was David Finch)The recent Batman & Robin stuff on Apokolips has been pretty thrill-poweredGrayson is more entertaining than the premise would suggest, almost a spy thriller?Star Spangles War Stories has been good, if you have a high Gray and Palmiotti toleranceDial H might be on your radar, if not then it should be
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link
does Dial H have anything to do w/ that dude w/ the belt who used to hang out w/ superboy in the very short lived superboy and the ravers comic?
also -- is kitty pryde doing anything in anything ongoing?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
No, it's a revival of a 60s property by China Mieville.
Kitty's main thing in an ongoing book is as Peter Quinn's gf (in GotG maybe?) although she was a big player in the Doop mini.
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
kitty is dating peter quinn?????
― Mordy, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
Wtf, does Bendis like Kitty so much he transplanted her to GotG?!
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
No offense meant to Staples but in terms of recent memory (3-4 years?) and mainstream American comic art, Richard Corben, Bill Sienkiewicz, Attila Futaki, Greg Ruth, Kevin Ferrara, Frank Quitely, JH Williams, Chris Weston, Phil Winslade, James Stokoe, Eric Powell, John Romita Jr, Kelley Jones, Emma Rios, Daniel Acuna, Dan Brereton, Sam Kieth, Leinel Francis Yu, Jae Lee, Amanda Conner, Guy Davis, Mike Mignola, Mike Kaluta, Esad Ribic, Bernie Wrightson and Arthur Adams are far preferable to me. Admittedly, very few of these people were doing an ongoing series. If I was reading lots of comics I could probably name some more appropriate examples.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
lol
― Nhex, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
anybody read "Marshal Law"? thinking of picking it up.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link
Marshall Law is one of my favorite comics of all time. Each series is a bit a case of diminishing returns, but it starts at such a high level it has room to fall off.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:24 (nine years ago) link
Is Lemire still doing Green Arrow? He seems to have lot of good ideas for DC stuff, his Justice League Canada book seems especially up my alley, but I just can't bring myself to... I don't know, the nu-52 Green Arrow doesn't seem anything like the 70s/80s Green Arrow I love. I know. That's MY hang-up. Recently read: Francesco Francavilla's Black Beetle, very stylish nostalgia trip that's as much Raiders of the Lost Ark as it is New Frontier (Darwyn Cooke writes intro & if you like his stuff, you'll probably like this). G.Moz's first Action Comics trade. The artist can't seem to decide if Superman is 13 or 25. Morrison seems more in love with Lex Luthor than ever. Packs a lot in compared to the Justice League comics I've read.
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
Lemire off GA at the moment, leading to a shift to almost 90s era tone - Connor Hawke era maybe?
― the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
whatever happened to J.T. Krul?
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
also, I just want to say that it has taken an tremendous level of self-restraint to not buy the Multiversity books. I even packed the kids in the car and took them to the comic shop one day, telling myself, well, if it happens it happens. I ended up dropping $50 on books for them. (pro-tip, 6yo's love Archie Digests)
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 19:43 (nine years ago) link
oh yeah, Green Arrow just got a new writing team "straight from the hit TV show". I guess this means TV Arrow wins. This guy is gone for good. http://longboxgraveyard.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/doug-moench-and-gene-colan-detective-559.jpg
― like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
has TV Arrow totally excised his radical leftie angle? if so >:(
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link