in retrospect, how did Rob Liefeld ever manage to hold down a artist job in the comics industry?

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I presume New Mutants #98 is that pricey because it was the first appearance of Deadpool? I doubt people wanted it that much before Deadpool became the Wolverine of the new millennium.

Tuomas, Sunday, 7 December 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

It's probably gone up, but there was a time when all of those early Liefeld NM issues were fetching high prices, like the early McFarlanes AMS issues

Nhex, Sunday, 7 December 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link

I don't understand people.

Tuomas, Monday, 8 December 2014 08:02 (nine years ago) link

It's probably people expecting the comic to rocket in value after the deadpool movie comes out, like guardians of the galaxy made those issues scarce

Nixon head is essential. (stevie), Monday, 8 December 2014 09:54 (nine years ago) link

i think i have a copy of that somewhere. never thought i'd have the chance to make some liefeld-related cash this far into the 21st century...

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 8 December 2014 10:01 (nine years ago) link

Those Liefeld New Mutants issues used to be 'hot' because they introduced Cable, who quickly got his own comic off the back of them.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 8 December 2014 10:22 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I remember cashing in bitd on New Mutants 87-90.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Monday, 8 December 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

As a lad I bought what I later realized was a reprint of NM 87 for two bucks, hands shaking, thinking I was really getting away with something. #98 was always hot too IIRC... Deadpool wasn't as big a deal in the 90s as he was in the 2000s but he was inexplicably big. Versus the first appearance of Krule or G.W. Bridge or whoever.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 8 December 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link

oh, GW Bridge.

Nhex, Monday, 8 December 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

I clown on Liefeld, but I not only bought but bought/sold/rebought his NM/X-Force stuff, so I guess the clown's on me.

Hamhole and Fly Eyes (Old Lunch), Monday, 8 December 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

really, really good idea

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:42 (nine years ago) link

http://robliefeldcreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/EVE_serpent_V04_200dpi_PB.jpg
this is driving me nuts: i'm almost POSITIVE the serpent here is a swipe but i can't place it. Kubert's Bible too obvious?

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Wally Wood? It's just real familiar.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Frazetta? Corben? Veitch?

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link

my love affair with comics began with the heroes of the Old Testament. Samson, David, Joshua, these guys really turned my crank.

amazing

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 09:14 (nine years ago) link

that looks like a screenshot from a video game

Yeah, there's a weird lack of depth in that pic, I can't quite figure out what's causing it. The shading and perspective seems to be done reasonably well, at least when you consider that this is Liefeld.

Tuomas, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:54 (nine years ago) link

well, it's patrick blaine and mike capprotti over liefeld's pencil roughs - i think we can give them credit for anything positive about it

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:56 (nine years ago) link

like, there's no way the chest on that guy, which appears to have fairly normal proportions, was originally sketched out like that

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:57 (nine years ago) link

i kinda wish he'd gone full liefeld on these stories and had adam and eve grimacing and festooned with pouches

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 10:59 (nine years ago) link

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves pouches.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:27 (nine years ago) link

Feet almost competent in the snake picture.

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:28 (nine years ago) link

xp haha!

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:28 (nine years ago) link

Eve has feet! Do you think God took them when he cast her out of Eden?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 March 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

The art will be provided by a variety of illustrators working over my pencils, layouts and storytelling.

I'm guessing that since he's hiring people who can actually draw, including feet, his work is at stick-figure level now.

WilliamC, Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:03 (nine years ago) link

Frazetta? Corben? Veitch?

http://files1.comics.org//img/gcd/covers_by_id/198/w400/198687.jpg

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:06 (nine years ago) link

http://www.comics.org/issue/217258/cover/4/

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:07 (nine years ago) link

Naw, something closer to this actual pose. Liefeld is not capable of mentally re-arranging objects into different positions or imagining what they would look like from different perspectives. I wanted to say it was video game box cover art but I can't place what. Also note the suspicious dust kicked up where the snake meets the ground, obscuring any mis-matches, as if he couldn't even just sketch in the outline of a snake for chrissakes.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:12 (nine years ago) link

I thought it might be the golden snake in Conan #24, Barry Smith's last issue, but I checked and none of the poses are quite right.

WilliamC, Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link

I don't think it's a rip, but that might have been what forks was thinking of re Veitch.

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:25 (nine years ago) link

probably a rip of something liefeld saw airbrushed on the side of a van

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 19 March 2015 13:28 (nine years ago) link

it's definitely a specific image that he lifted for the roughs and gave as reference because it's pretty dead-on in my memory. wood/corben/veitch/kubert/frazetta listed because it matches their styles, but it could easily have been an album cover, book illustration or video game ad.

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

maybe something taking place in the savage land?

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:04 (nine years ago) link

This thread started a really dumb joke brewing in my head about Liefeld's inability to draw a kangaroo. Just guess the punchline.

A Whizzer, A Poo Star (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

Joey Kubert

Nhex, Thursday, 19 March 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link

A: Because it only has one pouch. Although I would also accept 'Because it has feet'.

A Whizzer, A Poo Star (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

HEYO

Nhex, Thursday, 19 March 2015 16:31 (nine years ago) link

A: Because it only has one pouch.

Sexist.

oochie wally (clean version) (sic), Thursday, 19 March 2015 21:46 (nine years ago) link

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1184992/CABLE_DEADPOOL_03_Rob_Liefeld.jpg

The impossible position of Cable's gun-arm gets stranger the more you look at it. It's positively Escher-esque.

Pheeel, Saturday, 21 March 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

did deadpool chew open his own mask so he could clench a knife between his teeth or what

bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 21 March 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

That's one of the better Liefeld drawings I've seen.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 14 May 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link

and its still rotten

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 14 May 2015 11:18 (nine years ago) link

Have been told by a reliable source that during his time on New Mutants Liefeld received considerable advice from a well-established and respected comic book artist, particularly to do with perspective.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 May 2015 11:40 (nine years ago) link

advice which liefeld clearly only partially understood

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 14 May 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link

That was almost exactly the punchline to the anecdote I heard

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 May 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link

heh!

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 14 May 2015 12:03 (nine years ago) link

Cable's body length waaaay to short in that pic. Waitamminit, why am I expecting Liefeld to draw someone properly?

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Thursday, 14 May 2015 13:23 (nine years ago) link

he also appears to have a bagel and several small baguettes strapped his waist

bizarro gazzara, Thursday, 14 May 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link


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