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The biggest digital comic book distributor in all of digital comics land, Comixology, just took a relatively unprecedented move for a platform its size. Customers will now be able to download DRM-free backups—meaning when you buy a book, you'll finally get to own it, too.

http://gizmodo.com/you-can-finally-download-drm-free-comic-book-backups-fr-1610443535?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

doesn't say which publishers have signed on yet and i can't imagine all the big boys will but still this is p cool

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:39 (eleven years ago)

Out of the stuff I've bought it looks like Image and Top Shelf. No surprise on either of them. I haven't bought anything from the big two.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

OK that's huge. That's what was keeping me away from those services. Hope more publishers get onboard.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:44 (eleven years ago)

that's good news. probably timed to go against marvel's SDCC promo

Nhex, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)

hasn't Top Shelf's digital been DRM-free for four or five years?

boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:16 (eleven years ago)

Not if you bought it through comixology

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:18 (eleven years ago)

EZ Snapping, if you didn't see that Saxon/Whitesnake thread, I'm just telling you here that what you said has had me laughing my ass off.

I bought the Emily Carroll book, very nicely designed.

I still pick up lots of comics in the shop and can't decide if I want to buy it for a relatively small portion of the content. That book of early Joe Kubert in particular. I just love the rugged detail.

Interesting to see Waterstones dedicating part of a table to Savage Dragon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:35 (eleven years ago)

comixology is like the diamond comics of digital. those motherfuckers.

mh, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:18 (eleven years ago)

Is there any digital comics sites with great stuff that is hard or impossible to find elsewhere?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:45 (eleven years ago)

I'm not too fond of most of the banter in comic shops. One of my friends said it's like listening to people pretend they are in a Kevin Smith film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:50 (eleven years ago)

That's an awful thing to say.

Nhex, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:01 (eleven years ago)

comixology is like the diamond comics of digital.

― mh, Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

except they show up on time

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)

Neither of us really mind Kevin Smith films much (although I have to say I'm not very fond of hip dialogue that is so popular in tv and film), but listening to people trying to be witty/cool in that specific way can be very cringeworthy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:43 (eleven years ago)

go to better comics shops

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:27 (eleven years ago)

you know, you can go to the nicest large-city comic shop that caters to indie and original work, with friendly employees who have great recommendations, and still occasionally run into a cluster of condescending gutter nerds

mh, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)

so this Fantagraphics Vaughn Bode thing... curious if anything will be in there that I don't already have. Influential as he was, Bode does not seem to have been particularly prolific.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:48 (eleven years ago)

Does it have Bode's Wrightson Purple Pictography collaborations?

There's nothing really wrong with the shop I go to, Forbidden Planet Glasgow (there is lots of pointless merchandise but I don't know if the individual Forbidden Planet stores get much choice in what they buy in). It's on one of the busiest streets, so all sorts of people come in. And for annoying geeks to stay away from their natural habitat, the place would have to sell stuff that didn't appeal to most of them, which is risky business for a comic store. There is a store in Mono that exclusively does small press stuff, I don't have the foggiest how they stay afloat.

There used to be loads of comic stores years ago but now glasgow is probably down to 2
3 or 4 (there was something like 10 or more when I started shopping around 15 years ago). The guy who ran Futureshock passed away recently (Mark Millar done an obituary) so I presume that shop is gone. It was a very messy store and I didn't know how he kept that place going, but it had charm. I once reached deep into a dusty hole between boxes and expecting my hand to be covered in spiders, pulled out a Corben book!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 19:35 (eleven years ago)

45 cent love and rockets vol 1 on comixology today w/code LOVE

lovin it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:50 (eleven years ago)

Top Shelf has compiled the complete Bacchus for digital. 5 volumes, $7.99 each. I hope they're still doing print volumes...

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:56 (eleven years ago)

I finally got that Slings & Arrows Comic Guide, it is really impressive but I can't find the contributor list anywhere.
I was looking around for reviews of the sort of 90s comics that everybody hated, because so few people ever really followed the stories consistently. Not surprising that the reviews are negative.
I've always wanted to see a genuinely good "bad girl" comic because I like the general direction Chaos and Verotik were headed but didn't like the execution. I guess Requiem by Mills/Ledroit is quite similar.
I listened to a podcast all about Vigil's Faust that was very entertaining. I love hearing about wacky oddities like that. Tarot was really mental sometimes in a way that old golden age superheroes were, if it was better written and drawn it'd be one of my favourite comics.

I wonder if the reviewers really managed to read every single issue of those old romance comics?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:07 (eleven years ago)

Top Shelf also having a completely insane digital sale all weekend

boney tassel (sic), Saturday, 26 July 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)

Witzend turned up this morning. I know it's supposed to be v patchy, but kind of overawed by even a quick look.

Alex In Complete Agreement (aldo), Saturday, 26 July 2014 13:14 (eleven years ago)

In book form or a digital service?

I'm still wondering how they got to reprint it all. I'm sure it's all creator owned material, I don't think it's old enough to be public domain. Although Ditko is the only living artist I can imagine taking action over this.
Gray Morrow did some lovely stuff for it too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 July 2014 14:07 (eleven years ago)

Bought Bacchus because it looks like physical reprints are not in the cards. Kinda bummed.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 26 July 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)

witzend is on amazon i think.

that 150 for most everything top shelf has made available digitally is a little tempting. what's the file format for comixology? .cbr? Is it drm free?

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 July 2014 14:51 (eleven years ago)

protected cbr (I think) but Top Shelf is one of the companies making everything available for download as a pdf or cbz backup. Not all of my prior purchases have working pdfs yet, but all have cbzs.

If I had the money I probably would get it despite only missing Bacchus from my "must haves" due to prior top shelf sales. But I could barely scrape enough for Bacchus.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 26 July 2014 15:02 (eleven years ago)

okay, i'm taking the plunge. I've never paid for digital comix before! 150 for 170 graphic novels seems fair.

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:13 (eleven years ago)

also my first time using comicology

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 26 July 2014 16:23 (eleven years ago)

too much money for me but that is a good deal. enjoy Chester 5000!

Nhex, Saturday, 26 July 2014 17:02 (eleven years ago)

Witzend is the hard copy version.

That top shelf deal looks really good but having just dropped a load on Witzend I'm not sure I can stretch to it at the moment.

Alex In Complete Agreement (aldo), Saturday, 26 July 2014 17:11 (eleven years ago)

What is the current title of the storyline originally published as the Doing the Islands with Bacchus dark horse miniseries? I recall that being my favorite Bacchus stuff by some distance.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 27 July 2014 12:27 (eleven years ago)

Vol.2 Details of what's in each of these editions is here: http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog/bacchus/619

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 July 2014 12:54 (eleven years ago)

originally published as the Doing the Islands with Bacchus dark horse miniseries?

originally published in Trident #5-8 and DHP &c iirc btw fwiw

boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 27 July 2014 13:44 (eleven years ago)

So doing the islands was its 2nd us publication?

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 27 July 2014 18:15 (eleven years ago)

It was a collection of stories that had previously appeared in various places.

http://www.weisshahn.de/bacchus/book3.htm

fit and working again, Sunday, 27 July 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)

My favorite Bacchus sequence also. Been waiting on the new collections for years and I am now bummed that it seems they aren't going to happen (in print).

fit and working again, Sunday, 27 July 2014 19:01 (eleven years ago)

lady got me reading 'runaways' and am loving it p hard so far

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2014 20:10 (eleven years ago)

nice. love anything by BKV

Nhex, Sunday, 27 July 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)

any way to close one of those 2014 reading threads?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 July 2014 21:08 (eleven years ago)

(this is the I Love Comics reading thread)

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2014 21:33 (eleven years ago)

A1! How dumb to forget, I used to think #3 was possibly the best single issue of an anthology ever. Also re Trident my brain obviously thought of it as being the only reason to have #s 5-8, once St Swithin's Day wrapped.

(Keen to hear Alfred's thoughts, once hl locks and deletes the other thread for him.)

boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 27 July 2014 22:32 (eleven years ago)

hey sic thanks for pointing out that top shelf sale, i grabbed the whole Double Barrel which i guess means like 1200 pages of comics?? idk DOIN IT

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2014 22:54 (eleven years ago)

Witzend definitely a thing of its time. Some of the portfolio stuff is just beautiful, especially Reed Crandall's Edgar Rice Burroughs collection and the Frazetta portrait of Buster Crabbe from the back cover of #1.

More... ahem... singular is Steve Ditko's Avenging World, which is really just a stream of consciousness Randian rant over some collage art. Clearly Wally Wood was beginning to tire of it, because in #7 he published a piece taking the piss out of Mr A.

Alex In Complete Agreement (aldo), Monday, 28 July 2014 11:17 (eleven years ago)

I was very taken by Avenging World when I was 15 or 16, and that passage about righting your own wrongs made me go to a shop and confess that I had switched price tags on something to make it slightly cheaper (so basically stolen it). The shop keeper just seemed a bit surprised and said he didn't mind me shopping there.
I considered myself an objectivist at that time, not yet knowing how crazy, irrational, unreasonable, distorted, wishful, hypocritical many objectivists were. But I still think I taken away some good things from it.

Now that Ditko isn't my God anymore, it think it's tragic how much wasted potential he had. I thought Crackling Blazer, Missing Man, Mr Quiver and his last Creeper things were good, but from the mid-70s it really is mostly a terrible decline.

Will Eisner said Wood wanted to sue Warren for refusing to publish Witzend. Eisner had to tell him the law doesn't work like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 15:58 (eleven years ago)

The Creeper volume that DC put out a couple of years ago is pretty great, but yeah, it's slim pickings after that.

Bill Pearson says in the prologue that the reason he took it over, and only paid $1 for it, was that he believed in Wally but that somehow he'd spent the entire subscription money up to #8 getting as far as #4 (and even then paid for some of that out of his own pocket) and otherwise it was just going to fold. Bill put out the other ones at a loss (splitting the damage with other believers like Phil Seuling) with as much free work as he could get hold of - which explains why #9 is just photos and a couple of essays on WC Fields, or why #13 is proto-GGA, much of which are throwaway quality.

and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)

I picked up the 4th volume of the Captain Easy Sundays in Atlanta this weekend. I think I read somewhere that that's the last volume? If so, time to pick another great strip to collect -- I'm thinking Nancy, though another continuity/adventure strip is possible.

rockist popist papist (WilliamC), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 16:42 (eleven years ago)

Taking into consideration what Ditko had achieved even by 1975, I think it's very harsh to talk about 'wasted potential'. I mean for the first twenty or so years of his career he was not only extremely productive, but almost everything he drew was of a very high standard, even on poorly paid filler stories for Charlton or whoever. And that's before we even start on things like Doctor Strange - which seems to me to be a whole new way of visualising the occult - and of course Spider-Man, indisputably Ditko's character design and arguably the most popular and original superhero character since Superman. Very few artists within comics have enjoyed such a sustained period of creativity.

In fact, taking into account Ditko's eccentricities/bloody-mindedness/justifiable contempt for Stan Lee - plus the absolute peanuts he was being paid for lots of this stuff - I would say there's great to enjoy from the 70s and on - Stalker (Wally Wood inks), The Mocker, the two Killjoy strips in Charlton's EMan (up there w/ Ditko's very best work), and even some of the hardcore collectivist stuff published by Fantagraphics and Robin Snyder. His Marvel 'comeback' stuff is mostly mediocre, I guess, tho I rather like those issues of Rom inked by P Craig Rusell, who supplies some of the detail and texture mostly missing from Ditko's later work.

Plus, Ditko was very ill at the end of the 1960s - part of the reason why he didn't draw the last issue of Creeper - and I'm not sure he ever had quite the same stamina again. But whatever the quality of the artwork - or the script - it's still recognisably Ditko, personally expressive, not streamlined or rote, unique. That's enough for me.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 29 July 2014 18:46 (eleven years ago)

Those two Killjoy strips are indeed great, I think whenever his later work had crazy humour it regained some the energy I associate with his best work. That's why I think Mr Quiver, World's Finest era Creeper and Crackling Blazer (very possibly the oddest comic I've ever read, the main character fights a concrete highway and his catchphrase is "caboo!")is better than whatever else he was doing at the time.
Despite some appreciative articles and Yoe/IDW reprints, his Charlton 60s/70s ghost work still hasn't got the respect it deserves, some of it was him at his most inventive, beautiful and confident.

I don't think much of Stalker or Mocker. I find them very flat and a chore to read. Although Static was in some ways one of his most ambitious works and had some striking violence, it's painfully dull and totally lacks all the things I love about Ditko. There is a story he did about scientists in communist Russia that is possibly the dullest comic I have ever read despite him being my favourite comic creator.

I know that the life of a mainstream comic creator can ruin an aging artist, very few are able to grow, improve while keeping the same schedule, that's why a lot of the best guys leave or do less comics work (talking specifically about the american industry in the past or the insane conditions for most Japanese guys; it is slowly becoming more hospital creators these days).
Of course I can only speculate about his potential and his health but I think it's fairly clear that most of the time he distanced himself from all the things that made him great in favour of austere sterility. He has made some bizarre seemingly nonsensical justifications for no longer wanting to do supernatural or horror themed work but yet still does it on occasion in small doses.
I'm fairly sure his creator owned comics from 90s to present are not supposed to pay the bills, so it's harder to accept such bare bones work now that he has complete freedom.
Imagining an alternate universe Ditko who completely embraced supernatural flights of fantasy, darkness, strangeness, expanded his techniques and kept up his skill at realistic looking people, is as tantalizing a possibility as I can imagine.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 20:26 (eleven years ago)

WilliamC - I'm tempted to recommend Dick Tracy. I've thoroughly enjoyed it and am only just getting to the point where I think I don't need another volume (about 14 in).

It's a great adventure strip when it needs to be, and certainly thrilling - almost any time it involves a large body of water, or some snow, it turns into a real page-turner as you race along with the plot - although the comedy is certainly of the time and frequently falls kind of flat. Both Gravel Gertie and B.O. Plenty are kind of one-note jokes to start with although Chester Gould ultimately forgets most of it once he gets to the family stage.

and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:35 (eleven years ago)

http://bandedessinee.tumblr.com/

I'm having trouble finding review sites for European comics with lots of art examples. Considering the number of English speaking European comic fans all over the internet I don't know why I don't see more of their comics shown/discussed. I don't even really need the English talk, anything showing lots of pictures is good for me.

None of the current stuff from publishers like Cinebooks has really caught my eye (doesn't help that they censor their books for wider distribution), anyone reading that stuff? I was impressed by some of the art in Red Baron, super realistic.

Christophe Blain can draw amazing but I don't know if the subject matters would grab me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:25 (eleven years ago)


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