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smugness and emo and try-hardiness about Gillen's comics

haha i totally sense this arrogance/smugness in the writing but i'm sorta taking it as part of the conceit of having so many deity characters

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 06:47 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, that's why he's great at writing Loki! But I find it tiring when every character is a variation on that theme.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 10:32 (eleven years ago)

The smugness is part of his trademark style tbh, going back to his game reviewing days

Nhex, Monday, 21 July 2014 12:44 (eleven years ago)

Game reviewing! I get it now. I don't like it. But I get it.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 13:39 (eleven years ago)

btw I don't mean that as a slam, I was very fond of his games journo work

Nhex, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:00 (eleven years ago)

should i read phonogram if enjoying w+d btw y/n

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)

Yes! I didn't like it either so you probably will. The first series is better though than "Singles Club".

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:27 (eleven years ago)

haha ok

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:45 (eleven years ago)

just bought the whole young avengers run and am pretty gobsmacked at how great it is

a lot of it reminds me of buffy at its best

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 05:47 (eleven years ago)

gieron & mckelvie's run, that is

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 05:47 (eleven years ago)

Emily Carroll's first collection Through The Woods out this week. I Might get it.

Some of you might be interested in Ragnarok, Walter Simonson's creator owned Norse mythology thing.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=22670

Mulling over getting the Boody Rogers collection that came out a few years ago. I read a few reprints in an issue of Comics Journal once. Crazy stuff, particularly how the main character grew really big feet in one story and seemed to keep them in later stories.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:32 (eleven years ago)

btw i read through the whole kieron young avengers last night, up til 4 in the morning

hot diggity

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

lol i typed 'kieron' thinking i was on twitter and it would autocomplete

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:45 (eleven years ago)

just got the new o'malley - seconds

Mordy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:49 (eleven years ago)

oh dude lmk how that is, considering it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:13 (eleven years ago)

waiting for paperback but seeing that it's lettered by Harbin instead of a computer makes me more anticipatory, that was the biggest (only!) flaw with Scott Pilgrim for me

boney tassel (sic), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:20 (eleven years ago)

thanks for reminding me, i will get it next time i tithe our amazon overlords

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 04:02 (eleven years ago)

from comments on the ~utility belt~ supergirl has had added to her costume:

If you want to take selfies, you need a phone and for that you need pockets.

This is probably how the pouch-pocalypse of the '90s happened. It began with a good idea. Those superheroes need some place to carry their ammo, communication device and probably money. Then Liefeld thought maybe they need snacks and drinks too, so more pouches were added. And then they need to first aid kits, various scifi gadgets, repair kits for their outfits, a scarf maybe for those cold missions, a Walkman for those downtimes, tapes for the Walkman, a novel for the more literary types, a camera if they need to take photos of villain lairs, extra film for that camera, mints, toothbrush and toothpaste because they have so many teeth, hot oil for muscle cramps because Liefeld characters have more muscles than real humans, and so on.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)

That's great.

Titan are said to be reprinting a Druillet book, 6 Voyages. I'd be surprised if they just stopped there. I wonder if the translation will be new because some people say all those old translations were very poor.
I still don't have Salammbo so I hope they reprint that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 17:56 (eleven years ago)

I just finished off Steve Lafler's Complete Bughouse and recommend it unreservedly.
http://www.co2comics.com/pages/co2_bughouse.html
http://www.amazon.com/M%C3%A9nage-%C3%A0-BUGHOUSE-Steve-Lafler/dp/B008PVLBJA/

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 18:09 (eleven years ago)

I always welcome translated stuff (I'm going to put a list of all my translation wishes in the reprint thread soon) but now I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion that these things are just getting released to tie in with a film adaptation (WOW! MOVIES! WOW! CELEBRITIES! Everybody knows comics are only good for films, games, toys and merchandise to be based on them).

With all the talk of Alan Moore asking people to boycott the Hercules film based on Steve Moore's comic (minus the gay relationship), Phoebe Gloeckner's Diary Of A Teenage Girl, Refn's version of Incal. Plus all the usual stuff.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:00 (eleven years ago)

hey, if it takes a movie to get good comics back into print, who cares?

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:01 (eleven years ago)

Yes! to new Druillet editions. I remember reading somewhere - probably Jack Kirby Collector - that Kirby once went into a comic shop and out of everything on display he picked up a Druillet book and said, "Now THAT's comics!"

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:20 (eleven years ago)

I'm just particularly fed up with film adaptations and biopics being like this ultimate validation. Sick of familiarity being prized.

Some of my favourite films and comics are adaptations but I think it's more important to support original works in any medium.
I think in geek culture in particular (which dominates comics worse than films) there's an attitude that familiar things are unbeatable and need to be continually built up. Build shrines to what they already know, not looking for other things.

When something new comes along I wonder how many people think about how many more new things could come around? When Game Of Thrones got a bigger fandom I wonder how many people thought "maybe there are thousands of great stories that will never have a screen adaptation"? Have people totally given up hope of a giant readership for lots of newer writers without help of making a screen adaptation? Keep making adaptations probably isn't going to reverse this.

I don't refuse to buy adaptations, sequels, works with fictional celebrities (Cthulhu) etc or put people who do them on a list but I'm often a little disappointed that they didn't develop something more new. I think there is a really serious lack of confidence and conviction about what could be created (somehow contemplating all the things that could exist someday doesn't have an overwhelming allure for most). There's a lot of people who believe nothing will ever be as good as Star Wars or Marvel Universe, that needs to be fought against.

Everything is about franchises when it should be about seeking qualities that drawn people to these franchises in the first place. If a geek is entranced by Giger's vision in films, the geek is more likely to want endless collectibles based on it than Giger art and equally powerful artists like Albin Brunovsky, Robert Venosa, Andrzej Masanis, Denis Forkas Kostromitin, Ernst Fuchs, Santiago Caruso, Nicholas Kalmakoff, Alison Schulnik and quite a number more (look up these guys if you like spectacular visions).

I might have said this before but geek culture desperately needs to take more from Metal fandom. Metal fandom certainly has problems but in general its worship of established acts got less in the way of finding new powerful visions.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 20:13 (eleven years ago)

getting around to reading Godland. Art is the main appeal, feel like it's v much Veitch doing Kirby a la 1963. It is very weird to see a Kirby homage with zero sound effects though.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 22:40 (eleven years ago)

Refn's version of Incal

wait waht

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 22:41 (eleven years ago)

His Incal isn't confirmed yet but he seems intent on doing it and Jodorowsky is a close buddy so it seems like it will happen eventually.
He also wants to do the 2000AD Button Man story. Expressed an interest in a Wonder Woman film but that isn't happening now. So I guess he likes comics.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 00:38 (eleven years ago)

phwoar

The biggest digital comic book distributor in all of digital comics land, Comixology, just took a relatively unprecedented move for a platform its size. Customers will now be able to download DRM-free backups—meaning when you buy a book, you'll finally get to own it, too.

http://gizmodo.com/you-can-finally-download-drm-free-comic-book-backups-fr-1610443535?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

doesn't say which publishers have signed on yet and i can't imagine all the big boys will but still this is p cool

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:39 (eleven years ago)

Out of the stuff I've bought it looks like Image and Top Shelf. No surprise on either of them. I haven't bought anything from the big two.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:42 (eleven years ago)

OK that's huge. That's what was keeping me away from those services. Hope more publishers get onboard.

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:44 (eleven years ago)

that's good news. probably timed to go against marvel's SDCC promo

Nhex, Thursday, 24 July 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)

hasn't Top Shelf's digital been DRM-free for four or five years?

boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:16 (eleven years ago)

Not if you bought it through comixology

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:18 (eleven years ago)

EZ Snapping, if you didn't see that Saxon/Whitesnake thread, I'm just telling you here that what you said has had me laughing my ass off.

I bought the Emily Carroll book, very nicely designed.

I still pick up lots of comics in the shop and can't decide if I want to buy it for a relatively small portion of the content. That book of early Joe Kubert in particular. I just love the rugged detail.

Interesting to see Waterstones dedicating part of a table to Savage Dragon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 22:35 (eleven years ago)

comixology is like the diamond comics of digital. those motherfuckers.

mh, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:18 (eleven years ago)

Is there any digital comics sites with great stuff that is hard or impossible to find elsewhere?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:45 (eleven years ago)

I'm not too fond of most of the banter in comic shops. One of my friends said it's like listening to people pretend they are in a Kevin Smith film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 24 July 2014 23:50 (eleven years ago)

That's an awful thing to say.

Nhex, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:01 (eleven years ago)

comixology is like the diamond comics of digital.

― mh, Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

except they show up on time

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)

Neither of us really mind Kevin Smith films much (although I have to say I'm not very fond of hip dialogue that is so popular in tv and film), but listening to people trying to be witty/cool in that specific way can be very cringeworthy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 00:43 (eleven years ago)

go to better comics shops

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:27 (eleven years ago)

you know, you can go to the nicest large-city comic shop that caters to indie and original work, with friendly employees who have great recommendations, and still occasionally run into a cluster of condescending gutter nerds

mh, Friday, 25 July 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)

so this Fantagraphics Vaughn Bode thing... curious if anything will be in there that I don't already have. Influential as he was, Bode does not seem to have been particularly prolific.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:48 (eleven years ago)

Does it have Bode's Wrightson Purple Pictography collaborations?

There's nothing really wrong with the shop I go to, Forbidden Planet Glasgow (there is lots of pointless merchandise but I don't know if the individual Forbidden Planet stores get much choice in what they buy in). It's on one of the busiest streets, so all sorts of people come in. And for annoying geeks to stay away from their natural habitat, the place would have to sell stuff that didn't appeal to most of them, which is risky business for a comic store. There is a store in Mono that exclusively does small press stuff, I don't have the foggiest how they stay afloat.

There used to be loads of comic stores years ago but now glasgow is probably down to 2
3 or 4 (there was something like 10 or more when I started shopping around 15 years ago). The guy who ran Futureshock passed away recently (Mark Millar done an obituary) so I presume that shop is gone. It was a very messy store and I didn't know how he kept that place going, but it had charm. I once reached deep into a dusty hole between boxes and expecting my hand to be covered in spiders, pulled out a Corben book!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 19:35 (eleven years ago)

45 cent love and rockets vol 1 on comixology today w/code LOVE

lovin it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:50 (eleven years ago)

Top Shelf has compiled the complete Bacchus for digital. 5 volumes, $7.99 each. I hope they're still doing print volumes...

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 July 2014 21:56 (eleven years ago)

I finally got that Slings & Arrows Comic Guide, it is really impressive but I can't find the contributor list anywhere.
I was looking around for reviews of the sort of 90s comics that everybody hated, because so few people ever really followed the stories consistently. Not surprising that the reviews are negative.
I've always wanted to see a genuinely good "bad girl" comic because I like the general direction Chaos and Verotik were headed but didn't like the execution. I guess Requiem by Mills/Ledroit is quite similar.
I listened to a podcast all about Vigil's Faust that was very entertaining. I love hearing about wacky oddities like that. Tarot was really mental sometimes in a way that old golden age superheroes were, if it was better written and drawn it'd be one of my favourite comics.

I wonder if the reviewers really managed to read every single issue of those old romance comics?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 July 2014 22:07 (eleven years ago)

Top Shelf also having a completely insane digital sale all weekend

boney tassel (sic), Saturday, 26 July 2014 00:25 (eleven years ago)

Witzend turned up this morning. I know it's supposed to be v patchy, but kind of overawed by even a quick look.

Alex In Complete Agreement (aldo), Saturday, 26 July 2014 13:14 (eleven years ago)

In book form or a digital service?

I'm still wondering how they got to reprint it all. I'm sure it's all creator owned material, I don't think it's old enough to be public domain. Although Ditko is the only living artist I can imagine taking action over this.
Gray Morrow did some lovely stuff for it too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 July 2014 14:07 (eleven years ago)


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