And if such a comic was a roaring success, they'd base a movie on it and all sorts of merchandise but not pay the creators properly (if at all).
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, but I think most creators acknowledge that going into the deal these days.
― Slobberchops (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
yeah I wasn't worried abt that. Page rate was ok and they paid fast once you turned the work in. And there would be royalties if things went to trade (LOL they are never gonna collect these robins in a million years).
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
What about royalties from digital versions?
I didn't realise Gilbert Hernandez actually was doing a little Wonder Woman thing.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
he's not that i'm aware of? i was just using that as an example. i wish he would.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link
http://comicsalliance.com/gilbert-hernandez-sensation-comics-featuring-wonder-woman-dc-digital-first/
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Finger on the pulse, there, forks.
― Slobberchops (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
huh. well it makes sense.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
kinda but still weird
― Nhex, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
Another DC imprint called Helix focused on science fiction, including a Lucius Shepard series called Vermillion (wonder if there is a prose version?), Some titles got carried over to Vertigo.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link
If Jon's issues were available digitally, DC would start paying out at 60,000 sales.
― boney tassel (sic), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link
lol Transmetropolitan started on helix
― mh, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
yeah, i have those somewhere. with the exception of that and matt howarth's book i think i hated every helix comic i read
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link
which reminds me, 2020 Visions was an awesome comic that was never collected by Vertigo, but has a b&w collection. I would almost recommend finding the original though.
― mh, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link
Been looking at loads of Dave McKean covers, never released how much he resembled Vaughn Oliver and Quay Brothers.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
Yeah he is almost a quay biter tbh
― before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
they're quay better
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 04:28 (nine years ago) link
Dockwood - Jon McNaught - just caught up w/ this guy, gorgeous illustrative cartooning set in a small English town, equal parts Chris Ware and Phillip Larkin
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 17 July 2014 07:52 (nine years ago) link
So I just got in that mood, and re-read The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck for the umpteenth time. It really is one of the great novels of the nineties. Every time it returns to Scotland, it just gets me.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 19 July 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
preach
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 July 2014 05:19 (nine years ago) link
I really should pick up that book
― Nhex, Saturday, 19 July 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link
i probably already said this but ms. marvel and the wicked + the divine are both killing the shit out of everything rn and you should be reading them
adorable guest appearance (arc??) with wolverine in ms marvel this month
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 July 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
Journey Into Mystery aside, there's a combination of smugness and emo and try-hardiness about Gillen's comics that I find completely toxic. I totally get his appeal. But his characters are spanners.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 20 July 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
I love Ms Marvel though!
i don't disagree with you about the tone but they do generally make for good readin' nonetheless
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 20 July 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
So guys, what was the last comic that really knocked your fucking socks off?
For me the best parts of Miura's Berserk did that. The second volume of Phoenix by Tezuka was close to that. Sadly both of them were last year I think.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 21 July 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
last one that comes to mind was this:http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2014/01/exclusive-preview-what-we-need-to-know-by-willy-linthout/
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 July 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
i don't want to encourage that
― Nhex, Monday, 21 July 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
?
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 July 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
lettering in those samples was unbearable
― boney tassel (sic), Monday, 21 July 2014 04:43 (nine years ago) link
i like that lettering! and i like linthout's previous book a lot as well:http://www.amazon.com/Years-Elephant-Willy-Linthout/dp/8492444304
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 July 2014 04:56 (nine years ago) link
smugness and emo and try-hardiness about Gillen's comics
haha i totally sense this arrogance/smugness in the writing but i'm sorta taking it as part of the conceit of having so many deity characters
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 06:47 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that's why he's great at writing Loki! But I find it tiring when every character is a variation on that theme.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link
The smugness is part of his trademark style tbh, going back to his game reviewing days
― Nhex, Monday, 21 July 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link
Game reviewing! I get it now. I don't like it. But I get it.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
btw I don't mean that as a slam, I was very fond of his games journo work
― Nhex, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:00 (nine years ago) link
should i read phonogram if enjoying w+d btw y/n
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 14:12 (nine years ago) link
Yes! I didn't like it either so you probably will. The first series is better though than "Singles Club".
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:27 (nine years ago) link
haha ok
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 21 July 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
just bought the whole young avengers run and am pretty gobsmacked at how great it is
a lot of it reminds me of buffy at its best
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 05:47 (nine years ago) link
gieron & mckelvie's run, that is
Emily Carroll's first collection Through The Woods out this week. I Might get it.
Some of you might be interested in Ragnarok, Walter Simonson's creator owned Norse mythology thing.http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=22670
Mulling over getting the Boody Rogers collection that came out a few years ago. I read a few reprints in an issue of Comics Journal once. Crazy stuff, particularly how the main character grew really big feet in one story and seemed to keep them in later stories.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
btw i read through the whole kieron young avengers last night, up til 4 in the morning
hot diggity
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
lol i typed 'kieron' thinking i was on twitter and it would autocomplete
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
just got the new o'malley - seconds
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
oh dude lmk how that is, considering it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
waiting for paperback but seeing that it's lettered by Harbin instead of a computer makes me more anticipatory, that was the biggest (only!) flaw with Scott Pilgrim for me
― boney tassel (sic), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link
thanks for reminding me, i will get it next time i tithe our amazon overlords
― Nhex, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
from comments on the ~utility belt~ supergirl has had added to her costume:
If you want to take selfies, you need a phone and for that you need pockets.This is probably how the pouch-pocalypse of the '90s happened. It began with a good idea. Those superheroes need some place to carry their ammo, communication device and probably money. Then Liefeld thought maybe they need snacks and drinks too, so more pouches were added. And then they need to first aid kits, various scifi gadgets, repair kits for their outfits, a scarf maybe for those cold missions, a Walkman for those downtimes, tapes for the Walkman, a novel for the more literary types, a camera if they need to take photos of villain lairs, extra film for that camera, mints, toothbrush and toothpaste because they have so many teeth, hot oil for muscle cramps because Liefeld characters have more muscles than real humans, and so on.
This is probably how the pouch-pocalypse of the '90s happened. It began with a good idea. Those superheroes need some place to carry their ammo, communication device and probably money. Then Liefeld thought maybe they need snacks and drinks too, so more pouches were added. And then they need to first aid kits, various scifi gadgets, repair kits for their outfits, a scarf maybe for those cold missions, a Walkman for those downtimes, tapes for the Walkman, a novel for the more literary types, a camera if they need to take photos of villain lairs, extra film for that camera, mints, toothbrush and toothpaste because they have so many teeth, hot oil for muscle cramps because Liefeld characters have more muscles than real humans, and so on.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
That's great.
Titan are said to be reprinting a Druillet book, 6 Voyages. I'd be surprised if they just stopped there. I wonder if the translation will be new because some people say all those old translations were very poor. I still don't have Salammbo so I hope they reprint that.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link