i'm generally skeptical of buzzfeed but this seemed like a good roundup-http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewziegler/indie-comics-that-you-need-to-be-reading
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:43 (twelve years ago)
counterpoint: most of those look terrible
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:21 (twelve years ago)
Hey, at least they seem to have some good art in there. I just ordered The Last of Us: American Dreams, coincidentally.
― Nhex, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:24 (twelve years ago)
yeah! i thought some looked great. i checked out kinski, strange nation, + deadly class. i already like saga
― Mordy, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:26 (twelve years ago)
I can always use more library recommendations, will definitely both these on reserve if I can find them
― Nhex, Thursday, 19 June 2014 03:27 (twelve years ago)
Whoa, I had no idea Faith Erin Hicks is doing The Last of Us, her previous comics (Superhero Girl, Friends with Boys, Nothing Can Possibly Go Wrong) have all been really good. I'm generally wary of comics based on video games though, have there ever been any good ones?
Pretty Deadly has absolutely gorgeous art by Emma Rios, but the plot is hard to follow. It's more of a mood piece than a plot-driven comic anyway, but I found it to be more admirable than likable. Minimum Wage is definitely worth reading if you like stuff like Hate: it's all about these slacker types inhabiting the border zone of geek and alternative cultures. I haven't read it since the original run in the 90s though, I have no idea how dated it might feel in the 2010s.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 19 June 2014 07:18 (twelve years ago)
Sorry to say I read the first third of The Incal and gave up, then just looked across the rest of the pages. Nothing about it really grabbed me much; although there are some good designs and images, overall it's not really impressive for Moebius standards. I also have a problem with pages densely packed with lots of busy panels and loads of text boxes/bubbles.
It seems like Refn is making a film of it but I don't know why Jodorowsky would allow that. I hate that I'll probably see the film and like it better (I'm not really a fan of the idea of adaptations).
Often I think being a comic, film or book reviewer sounds like a nightmare, trying to get through something you're not enjoying is gotta be worse than shifts at a lot of boring jobs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 June 2014 15:26 (twelve years ago)
...no.
― Nhex, Saturday, 21 June 2014 21:00 (twelve years ago)
Different strokes. The idea of having to complete loads of videogames I didn't like to give a proper review is especially miserable. Not wanting to write a shitty review everyone is going to rightfully criticize, wanting to be fair, but putting lots of effort into something that bores you to tears. I care about comics but I've given up on loads of them in the last few years.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:24 (twelve years ago)
picked up:
- Black Science, not really in love with it yet. i get that it's going for 'pulpy' with the writing, but there's a fine line between willfully pulpy and overwrought+purple.
- new Minimum Wage reboot, funny but I feel like the dude has no idea how to draw non-white-non-bros? all his jewish & POC characters are these like borderline crass visual caricatures, not sure if i want to keep reading.
- sex criminals (nobody here likes this or what? love it)
- the wicked & the divine #1, not sure why everybody's pissing their pants over it--cool art, but i found all the res we're in the media of to be pretty disorienting
Also signed up for a longbox. God forgive me.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)
I read the first couple volumes of Saga over my weekend vacation and enjoyed them more than I expected
― mh, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:44 (eleven years ago)
Sex Criminals is kind of entertaining but it's mostly leaning on its premise for novelty factor? I guess if you have an endless love for goofy sex jokes the entertainment keeps rolling.
Anyone reading the Satellite Sam book that Fraction's doing with Chaykin on art, though? The first issue or two were interesting but I didn't follow up.
do you mean a pull box or something, HOOS? a longbox is like... a cardboard box you put comics in
― mh, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:47 (eleven years ago)
I've pretty much given up on Fraction. Tried the first few Satellite Sam and Sex Criminals books and found both annoying.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:49 (eleven years ago)
― mh, Monday, June 23, 2014 7:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha i mean i'm assuming that my pull box takes physical form as a long box, yes
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:51 (eleven years ago)
but its probably just a bag
*sigh*
Sex Criminals is kind of entertaining but it's mostly leaning on its premise for novelty factor?
yeah i mean i'm reading it for the dialogue basically, makes me laugh & i like the characters and their relationship--the 'criminal' side of the story & even the art aren't really that interesting to me
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:53 (eleven years ago)
don't feel bad, HOOS, it's probably a little section in a longbox with dividers on either side so your books don't dirty up someone else's
― mh, Monday, 23 June 2014 19:57 (eleven years ago)
is anyone checking out COWL? curious
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 June 2014 20:03 (eleven years ago)
sex criminals is okay but the whole SECRET SOCIETY WATCHING YOU schtick felt sub-orphan black and The Fermata is more interesting.
I've been reading whatever shit marvel puts up on the unlimited tablet thing every week, quay d'Orsay (which is spectacular), prophet in trades and going back to the obscure cities again.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 June 2014 20:19 (eleven years ago)
going back to the obscure cities
this should be a euphemism
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 23 June 2014 20:21 (eleven years ago)
might be!
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 June 2014 20:31 (eleven years ago)
I'm plowing through silver age Marvel from day one. I'm up to about '64 right now. There's been plenty of dire crap thus far, but Stan's dialogue is starting to pop and Jack's art is starting to get wonderfully weird and abstract, so the good stuff is right around the corner. I have Essential trades for everything through about 1970, so we'll see how ambitious I ultimately am.
Also just learned that Lapham is finally putting out Stray Bullets again, so I ordered the complete Uber Alles trade and will be taking a brief Marvel hiatus for that once it arrives.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 June 2014 20:36 (eleven years ago)
― mh, Monday, June 23, 2014 7:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
3 is great too! 1 my favorite so far tho
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:08 (eleven years ago)
yeah, I was wrong, I read all three!
― mh, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:56 (eleven years ago)
just picked up the start of the new arc over the weekend, its a gutpuncher
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 19:06 (eleven years ago)
I'm plowing through silver age Marvel from day one. I'm up to about '64 right now
Did you find some sort of chronological month by month list for this? I've always wanted to do something similar.
― shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, in typical fashion for undertakings of this nature, I'm being pretty anal about it. I find The Unofficial Handbook of Marvel Comics Creators to be an utterly invaluable resource for lots of Marvel stuff, including publication dates. There's also a really detailed site with an issue-by-issue timeline that I can dig up if you want to go all the way down the rabbit hole.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 02:47 (eleven years ago)
In mainstream comics am currently enjoying:
SagaShe-HulkMiss MarvelLetter 44 - this is good, could be a lot better, but has me hooked enough for nowWonder Woman (the only DC book I bother with now, and I always used to be a DC>Marvel person)And, bizarrely enough, the two IDW Transformers series, which have become (for the most part) often very funny behind-the-scenes political stories (along with lots of big robots hitting each other)
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 07:15 (eleven years ago)
I wanna rescind my opinion on Black Science btw, now that I've finished the trade I'm suuuuuuuper into it--really, uh, rockets upward after the first issue-and-a-half
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:45 (eleven years ago)
Letter 44 - this is good, could be a lot better, but has me hooked enough for now
this looks interesting how deep is it so far
does a hoos read manhattan projects?
― mh, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)
not yet, been considering it
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:15 (eleven years ago)
Letter 44 is only 7 issues in: The first trade is out or about to be out, collecting the first 6 issues.
Also, I forgot that I'm also really digging Superior Foes of Spider-Man
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 June 2014 00:03 (eleven years ago)
Feeling like there are a ton of indies right now (Letter 44, God is Dead, Manhattan Projects, Black Science, Mind MGMT, etc etc) that are getting really good writeups, and have great art, but just doing absolutely nothing for me whatsoever.
I'm also reading the first-half of the Sean Howe book (which I skipped first time) and checking lots of 60s-80s Marvel on Marvel Unlimited. It's *really* hard to pick up any Steve Gerber that's not Howard the Duck - any recommendations how to do that?
Otherwise nothing out of the ordinary for me - I've gotten back into Avengers/New Avengers since Infinity ended (thankfully) and they are both SUPER fun right now. That plus something called, er, Albert the Alien on Thrillbent, whcih is really cute.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:26 (eleven years ago)
The Hickman Avengers stuff where they're trying to figure out exactly how far they're willing to go to protect their earth is getting intense
― mh, Friday, 27 June 2014 15:32 (eleven years ago)
It's *really* hard to pick up any Steve Gerber that's not Howard the Duck - any recommendations how to do that?
Idk how in print the essentials volumes are but you need Essential Marvel Horror (the one that focuses on Man Thing and the one that focuses on Son of Satan) and Essential Defenders vol 2 and 3.
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 June 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)
xxpost A lot of Gerber's '70s work (Defenders, Omega the Unknown, OG Guardians of the Galaxy, Man Thing) has been reprinted in recent years. Whether those reprints are currently in print is a whole other question.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 15:49 (eleven years ago)
Where did they reprint og guardians?
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 June 2014 15:56 (eleven years ago)
They've put out two trades that I think cover all of their pre-Valentino appearances. Guardians of the Galaxy: Tomorrow's Avengers, I believe they're called.
In sort of similar news, they just solicited a complete '70s Deathlok the Demolisher trade for September.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 15:59 (eleven years ago)
these are in color i suppose? (aka I can't afford them)
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:01 (eleven years ago)
Yeah, they are. And I guess Marvel has unofficially (but basically officially, since they haven't issued any since early last year) nixed the Essentials in favor of the color Epic Collections, so all of the old reprints are going to be unaffordable from here on out. The realization of which having kicked my Essentials collecting/hoarding into overdrive.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:09 (eleven years ago)
oh fuck that's bad news but thanks for telling me
are a lot of them already pricey?
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:10 (eleven years ago)
Some of them are ridiculous {like Black Panther, which was released <2 years ago and is currently selling for >$50, and the fourth Thor volume, which I just paid more for than I care to disclose) but a lot of them are available really cheap used. I'd like to think that the prices will drop as the Epic Collections replace them but I'm not taking any chances.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:23 (eleven years ago)
I never even saw the black panther one :(
― OutdoorF on Golf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:28 (eleven years ago)
Didn't know that about the Essentials ending, wot a pisser. Think I've got most of the ones I actually want, but there's a few I'd hope would continue on a bit further (eg the FF volumes reaching the Byrne issues). This is a pretty useful list:
http://collectededitions.com/storefront/buy_essentials.html
I don't know about current in-print status, but most of Gerber's major work has been reprinted in some form or other over the last ten years (aside from the things Jon mentions, there's also a good Omega the Unknown colour collection from Marvel).
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:33 (eleven years ago)
If you don't mind the overpriced color editions, they've been doing a decent job of bridging the post-Essential gaps. F'rinstance, I think there's only six-ish issues uncollected between the end of the Essential Avengers run and the more recent color trades they've done which collect everything through the late '80s. I'll give Marvel credit for effort and chutzpah (although we'll see what the final result is) inasmuch as these Epic Collections, much like Fantagraphics' Barks collections, have been released out of sequence but numbered with the apparent intention of being complete collections of a given title. Remains to be seen what "complete" really means in this context, and it's sure to be a frustrating endeavor for collectors, given Marvel's complete disinterest towards keeping stuff in print.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:42 (eleven years ago)
Guardians of the Galaxy: Tomorrow's Avengers, I believe they're called.
fuck yah
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 June 2014 16:43 (eleven years ago)
Not to derail too far towards making this an "old-school Marvel"-centric thread, but I just read yesteday that Dan Abnett is going to be writing an OG Guardians series starting this fall. I'll be reading that.
― Love Theme From Meatballs 2 (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 June 2014 16:49 (eleven years ago)
oh cool
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 June 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)
damn man i think min wage might come off my pull list, i'm so bummed at the way fingerman only includes POC as cab drivers and barely-drawn shadowy beggars. i like rob, i like the writing, but i can't deal with the consistent gross stereotyping.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 June 2014 23:59 (eleven years ago)