Let's talk about Jack Kirby

unfortunate url there

i think he really is called michael sporn

i remember roy thomas saying that sometimes Lee would deliberately write 'against' kirby's pencils

remember reading a l/k hulk story in the uni library at 17, when I was making an effort to crack early Marvel*, that made me write off Lee forever: action sequence magnificently, clearly laid out of Hulk atop a train. Bridge is nearing, Hulk estimates, braces; grabs bridge & flips himself over to land on the other side. Thrilling, direct storytelling.

Then Lee shits up the page with hundreds of words about how Hulk is dumb and can't tell what's going on but somehow his brain is super-strong and makes him levitate over the bridge. Fuuuuuck off, you useless parasite.

*bar Spider-Man, which clicked for me just fine as a kid when Kirby was weird and off-putting

I've probably ranted that rant on ILC before.

it does sound familiar

That's pretty disgusting!

lol you've posted it before but its still cool. do you know what hulk issue it was

no idea

http://www.daveburd.net/comicsgifs/Kirby_Tech.gif

Ha, cool. ZS should see that, if he normally doesn't look at ILC.

there should be more gif oriented stuff for classic comics. if marvel's head wasn't fully lodged up its ass...

That is awesome. Now I really wish there was a Fantastic Four animated series done in Kirby's style.

Yeah that would be amazing. Set in the 60s please.

The Thing voiced by John C Reilly.

Guy who does brak voicing mole man

lol forks

The Thing voiced by John C Reilly

using the Steve Brule voice! "It's cobblerin' time!"

Rupert Everett as Sub Mariner
Sasha Baron Cohen as Doctor Doom

Bill Murray as Galactus

george lowe as reed, natch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PdFil2AD6I

Bill Murray was on a Fantastic Four radio show in the 70s

he was the human torch iirc

Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKUp3lP2jSc

Ha, that's great.

Larry David as The Watcher

Stephen Colbert as Dr. Impossible sealed it

dang, i guess murray still hadn't shed his chicago accent cuz its crazy thick

http://images.tcj.com/2014/02/5-KirbyPulpSplash3-650x684.jpg
http://www.tcj.com/reviews/the-secret-history-of-marvel-comics-jack-kirby-and-the-moonlighting-artists-at-martin-goodmans-empire/

short version: he was a greedy man but that's forgivable because something good came out of his evil

Marvel and the Kirby estate have settled out of court.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/marvel-jack-kirby-estate-settlement-735921

Frustrating. I wanted to see some legal ripples from this.

Yeah, me too. But both sides had reason to be nervous.

yeah, disappointing altho I suppose it's better than a ruling in favor of Marvel (imo)

I'd guess the billions being made off those movies pretty much made it a good investment to make right and end this business risk. It's kind of sad it took Marvel (and others) making a few billion dollars off those Kirby characters in movies for it to happen, but better late than never.

Marvel was pretty short sided with Jack Kirby in the early 70 when they ran him out the door, but the comic industry of that time was pretty similar to the recording industry in that it was greasy as you could get. If they would have made Jack Kirby some type of limited partner back then, they would have ended up owning a ton more properties.

If we use the super hero multiple Earth's analogy, I kind of hope there is one out there where Jack Kirby got to do everything he ever wanted and made a ton of cash. I read his Marvel and DC comics and wonder how cool it would it be to have Kirby be able to have the Fantastic Four and Thor be able to interact with the Fourth World characters. The story ideas that could have happened are kind of endless.

I have to assume marvel made an eight figure payment + court costs to pacify the family; resolving this probably makes funding for future films much easier to secure
/talking out of my ass would be curious to hear from anyone who is close enough to the case to share better informed opinions

Evanier: "If you're coming to this page in search of details and commentary, you've come to the wrong place. I will be saying nothing about it other that I am real, real happy. And I'm sure Jack and his wife Roz, if they're watching this from wherever they are, are real, real, real happy."

So yeah, way into eight figures.

to make evanier happy on that level, i'd have to think so.

Lol yup

resolving this probably makes funding for future films much easier to secure

how will poor Disney scrape together pennies for their next low-budget Avengers flick

aw, you know that's not what i mean. They're moving hundreds of millions of dollars in financing against potential return of films that won't be on screen until 2018; removing any potential variables that could give a bank even the slightest pause has gotta be considered a major priority. without that leverage, i can't imagine this suit ending the same way; i assume marvel would just tie it up in litigation for another decade and roll the dice.

Kurt Busiek laying it down on the background to the ruling.

Bah, let's try that again

That rings true.

Interesting post, thanks

Yeah, thanks for the link. That's the most lucid summation of the situation I've read.

anyone know what's up with vol 2 of the fourth world omnibus? been on a bit of a kirby kick recently so i picked up the other three for reasonable prices but vol 2 is going for crazy money everywhere. did dc only print six copies or something?

I was obsessively monitoring the used prices on Amazon until I found a copy that was less insanely-priced than has become the norm. But still insanely-priced.

I don't know why this happens and it drives me nuts (currently fighting the fight with one of the Peanuts slipcase collections that's going for like $400 even though both of the individual books are still in print). Like, no one is going to pay $200 for this collection of old and rare comics that you can purchase individually for <$200, so just stop it.

Might be because vol 2 is the best/has the most famous stories in it (eg the Pact etc.)?

Been super entertained by the Kirby Thors lately - it goes without saying, but they are *crazed*.

Also - I have to admit, outside of Fantastic Four, I tend to skip the dialogue and just look at the pretty pictures for Kirby stuff. Am I missing anything?