Neil Gaiman - S/D

"under the influence of writer Neil Gaiman" - does this mean he's not actually writing it?

post-AP Gaiman so comfortable with RTing praise that he can cite himself as his biggest influence

What do "post-AP" and "RTing" mean?

Post- Associated Press?

Amanda Palmer, Retweet

Thanks! Still don't get what "post-Amanda Palmer" means...? From what I've gathered, she's some sort of a controversial musician? I've noticed the ILM thread on her, but it has like 2000 posts, so I haven't dared to try and read it.

She worked hard for every one of those posts, you should respect her effort.

pvmic

Tuomas on the money in this case

Tuomas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman#Personal_life

Ah, okay. I read Amanda Palmer's Wikipedia page, and it seems she's some sort of an attention-seeker? Is Sic suggesting Gaiman has become an attention-seeker too, now that he's married to her?

It's not the seeking as much as the getting - the levels of self-absorption apparent in the recent Guardian interview are more relevant to sic's joke, which has been thoroughly beaten to death by now.

I kind of want Tuomas to watch The Wright Way and read the Ben Elton thread now.

Must start 'Explain these clusterfuck threads to Tuomas' thread on secret board ILILX.

Or possibly on the higher-traffic IHILX.

Tuo, you're a beloved poster and a cherished member of the ilx community. You should read the Amanda Palmer thread, starting maybe a year back into it, and next time it pops up, join in the discourse.

i will never, ever understand US ilxors' fascination with some C-list goth of negligible fame and less interest

Or Amanda Palmer.

for many people a really special fingernail clipping makes a huge difference

so this is happening
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/12/joseph-gordon-levitt-sandman-movie

still skeptical

Not sure why, but I can't imagine this going well at all.

Sandman is unfilmable, and WB is a joke of a company with no respect for its IP. Wouldn't be surprised if the final product (which probably still won't happen) resembles Constantine.

oh wow there's a producer attached to a Sandman movie for the first time ever

surely the Wachowskis will line up for this crapfest

brett ratner or gtfo imo

Still think the only way this might work is as a TV series. Chuck Lorre, anyone?

David Goyer, stop working

Still think the only way this might work is as a TV series

you'll note the current version of this non-movie is called Prelude

Deeply ambivalent about this.

If they wind up doing Preludes & Nocturnes, I can see them really playing up the videogame-y quest aspect of Morpheus tracking down his tools. V unlikely to see 24 Hour Diner Meltdown in a movie that's likely to be PG-13. I feel exactly the same about this as I did about adaptations of Watchmen, From Hell, Hellblazer, etc.: No.

If it were me I'd find a way to jump straight to A Doll's House, P&N is the worst book of the series.

Fingers crossed for an appearance by Keanu Reeves as John Constantine.

(and a cameo from Ben Affleck as Batman, obviously)

Miley Cyrus as Death, plz

(Actually, she might not make a terrible Delirium.)

That would be pretty brilliant.

xp, Death becomes her

there's no real sexy goth hippie equivalent these days is there

http://thematerialsleuth.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/die-antwoord-4.jpg

just heavier on the creepy and the afrikaner accent than you would've expected, can totally see WB taking that tact

gah what is that

be nice, i like yolandi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yolandi_Visser

The writing in issue one of Overture is pretty damn bad. Maybe Sandman was always bad? Haven't re-read it for maybe ten years.

Sandman doesn't really bear a lot of re-reading ime. It's construction was p novel at the time - all these seemingly disconnected strands weaving in and out - but it's not really something with a lot of depth and a lot of the art is terrible.

let me add to that - the art is really, really terrible

I've been re-reading Sandman for the first time in 20 years and it's better than I remember. His over-writing has dated better than Alan Moore's over-writing. It's still terribly precious. But the bad stuff isn't as bad as I thought it would be. And A Doll's House is still terrific fun.

His over-writing has dated better than Alan Moore's over-writing.

Oh come now, Moore>>>>>>>>Gaiman.

No, I agree with you! Gaiman is third-tier compared to Moore. I'm thinking more of things like the text panels in Swamp Thing, which are atrocious. Although I suppose Gaiman gets away with a lot of indulgence for me, because I'd rather look at a paragraph of Todd Klein than a paragraph of John Costanza.

Re: Overture - I don't want to rep for it as a great work of comics or anything, but it's a lot more fun than Century or Neonomicon.

I'm getting back into reading Sandman and forgot how enjoyable it is.

Not a huge comics fan but after a few years of Alan Moore devotion I eventually got fed up of his constant literary eulogising and cthulu references. Maybe it was the latest crappy League albums but they were like a curates egg in a way. Will always rep for his best stuff but he's fallible,you know? And sandman is a lot of fun in its way. I've only read Prologue,Dolls House and I'm onot Seasons of Most now.