Superman, C/D?

yeah quipster's the wrong phrase, more bemused, reeves had this down.

Basically he should be Christopher Reeve.

Matt Bomer for Superman?

wld def prefer to see a movie derived from all the nutty 60s weisinger stuff - bottle city of kandor, bizarro, the works - than yet more hohum mythic seriousness

agree %1000

always felt John Hamm would've been a great Superman but he's a few years too old now

Martian hammhunter

Jon Hamm should be Deadshot

Spider-Hamm, naturally

Matt Bomer for Superman?

― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:00 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

he looks exactly like cavill!

"did they ever try to revamp him to be 90s style gritty hero back then?"

Does giving him a mullet count?

http://www.unwinnable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/SuperPowers.jpg

was the mullet dan jurgens' fault? i feel like it was

i would be down with asshole supes but never gonna happen

It's already happened!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x5/MacGizmo/Animated/drunk_superman.gif

what's that from? i managed to avoid the last supes movie but that looks hella older

superman 3, which was terrifying to me as a kid

the robot lady gave me nightmares

wow, that does not look like christopher reeve

the robot lady gave me nightmares

― Nhex, Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

she was so scary! also, richard pryor synthesizing kryptonite and using tar as the secret ingredient really grossed me out for some reason. i think because he got the idea from a pack of cigs and i was always nagging my parents not to smoke

Robot lady scared me too. I think a whole generation was scarred by the sight of Annie Ross being swallowed by wires.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwm11goF531qagpnjo1_400.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Superman_III_poster.jpg

Poster = none more eighties

i think because he got the idea from a pack of cigs and i was always nagging my parents not to smoke

Poster = none more eighties

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4058/4587230373_d04142cbe5_o.jpg

It's already happened!

Superman III is bad, but at least the way the Good/Evil Superman split is handled is in the spirit of the Weisinger/Silver Age stuff and not as some SERIOUS SUPERMAN IS SERIOUS bullshit

Yeah, absolutely. Reeve is really, really great as Asshole Superman.

Nick O'Teen!

Shakey OTM

"did they ever try to revamp him to be 90s style gritty hero back then?"

Does giving him a mullet count?

Did the mullet coincide with any changes in his personality? In the mullet stories I've read, he's pretty much the same guy except for hair length.

I guess the electric blue Superman was an attempt to make him more of a 90s style hero? Though I'm only familiar with that through Morrison's JLA, so I don't really know what the heck it was all about...

Anyway, it's a perfect example of how well superhero writers/artists are keeping up with the current trends, that when they wanted to make Superman more "cool" in the 90s, they gave him an 80s hair.

Anyone seen the movie and/or read Superman Unchained, then?

Unchained read like a Roger Stern/Dan Jurgens story gone widescreen -- actually, that's not a bad thing -- but was more like a solid issue #341 rather than a BIG FIRST ISSUE. It's a lot more trad than Snyder's work on Batman, but again, that's not actually a bad thing.

The costume is still dreadful though - much worse than the mullet! And Jim Lee's back doing those horrible diagonal frayed panels that are his wont.

They gave Superman the "mullet" because Dean Cain had long hair at the time he won the job to play Superman. By the time Lois and Clark aired he cut of the hair to look more like Superman. So a long story short DC didn't want new fans to get confused, so they jumped the gun. When the studio was planning on having Dean cut his hair to begin with.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/14/alan-moore-addresses-the-criminality-behind-superman-and-the-comic-book-industry/

can anybody else get that to load/summarize it

bleeding cool seems to be down

Yeah, absolutely. Reeve is really, really great as Asshole Superman.

― bizarro gazzara, Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:57 AM (

he was also for the first and last time sexy as fuck

sorry, don't know why that isn't loading

seems to be an excerpt from a larger esay by alan that links the shady nature of pulp publishing w/ the theft of rights etc from creators like siegel and shuster.

i wonder if it will contain an ambivalent screed about his role in the Marvelman saga

Wasn't dead Superman In Space a bit g&g? He had a beard, at least.

Oh, and a few years ago (just before Johnsiverse) didn't he fuck off to Kandor for like a year or something because he'd had enough of humans? (From memory this led to Silver Age shenanigans instead though, so is probably not a god example.)

are you thinking of when he thought he was out of touch with the common man, so walked across America for a year?

(in a story that JMS originated and bailed out on after six issues, but collected half the royalties on replacement Chris Roberson's scripts out of sheer dickishness iirc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg1yUMqJMcw

Wasn't dead Superman In Space a bit g&g? He had a beard, at least.

This was before the Death, I think? He had to execute some Kryptonian criminals, because otherwise they would've killed more people, but breaking his "thou shall not kill" code caused a moral crisis, so he flew off to space to think about stuff. At least that's what I remember about those stories, it's been 20 years since I read them... Yeah, I guess that could be seen as an attempt to grittify Supes, but IIRC the storyline didn't end up changing him that much, and when he came back he was just as ethical as he was before.

I'm not really a huge Supes fan tbh, but I like this article:
http://comicsalliance.com/superman-a-celebration-of-75-years-review-dc/?trackback=twitter_top

hmmm 2/3rds of those stories are exactly the same ones printed in my Best Superman Stories collection from the late 80s (Byrne issue being the final entry in that one)

dunno if that undercuts his argument or not

nah, that actually makes sense, the late 80s was when the dark, "realistic" edgy superhero themes took off. it's more surprising now that the wheel has turned back around

yeah that occurred to me too

altho I didn't think my collection was about failure/sadness - there is that, but it also has the first appearance of Mxtylplyk, Superman's bday/Fortress of Solitude introduction, what if Krypton hadn't blown up etc. it has its share of fun.

Martha Kent fanfic. Someone, get this woman a job at DC.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6447187

heh, that's a fun read

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