The ILC Favourite Characters Of All Time

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Can we have more, please?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 29 August 2005 08:39 (twenty years ago)

Yes! (Only one more, sorry, I left the spreadsheet at work)

#54. Acid Archie (Zenith)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/archie-744495.jpg

Grant Morrison's Zenith Book 3, published in 1990 in 2000AD re-introduced and revived a vast number of old UK comics heroes (many of whom are getting more boring treatment in Albion right now). One of them was Robot Archie, who had fought crime in the 60s. Robot Archie, like the original Iron Man, had a particularly clunky, yet appealing design, very much a pulp idea of what a robot would look like. Morrison kept the look intact for Zenith but painted a smiley face on and renamed him Acid Archie, creating a raving robotic hero who fit 100% with the times and would stick in the memory of all 2000AD readers way beyond any actual contributions he made to the storyline.

Greatest Moment: There in the picture you can see that he's tamed a war dinosaur and painted a big flower on it. But his finest moment is his introduction. Pop star superhero Zenith is arguing with his agent, hears a knock at the door, opens it and there, out of nowhere, is a giant robot with a smiley on its head who barges into his flat shouting "SPEED SPEED ECSTASY". The 90s had arrived.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 29 August 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

Lovely to see that the dinosaur picture counted as a cliffhanger.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 29 August 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

that's a very fierce looking dinosaur.

I like original Robot Archie as well, and probably would not be so fond of Acid Archie were it not for original Robot Archie.

I like the fact that Robot Archie has "Robot" in his name, as an aid to the hard of thinking.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 29 August 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

it is homeric

mark s (mark s), Monday, 29 August 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

Please, sir, can I have another?

Laura H. (laurah), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

#53. Manhog (Frank, Jim)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/bigfrankhog-748154.jpg

In Jim Woodring's curious dream-universe the bestial Manhog seems to represent our most venal, pitiful, greedy and stupid instincts. He is repulsive, but also often a victim, and not entirely without sympathy. The pained, desperate expressions on Manhog's face as he fails each time to understand or cope with his situation are some of Woodring's most powerful images.

Greatest Moment: Over to you!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

#52. Mo (Dykes To Watch Out For)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/mo-701968.jpg

To be frank, I'm not sure why of all the Dykes to Watch Out For characters I chose to nominate Mo; in a comic filled with colourful characters she's probably the least colourful. She's as stereotypical as a lesbian (in a lesbian-themed comic) can be: an angry feminist, left-wing, masculine-looking, a vegetarian, has cats. But one shouldn't always scare away from sterotypes, since many lesbians really are like that. It's up to the other characters to fill the spectrum, and, like Tintin in Tintin, she's the centre that holds the spectrum together. Unlike Tintin though, she isn't an empty signifier - we can relate to her, and maybe that's exactly because of her plainness. (Tuomas)

Greatest Moment: Over to you!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

#51

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/blacklois-793761.jpg

For her astonishing empathy. (Leee)

Greatest Moment:

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/blacklois2-740632.jpg

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Ah, Manhog! The reason I nominated him over Frank in the first place was his placement right on the brink of victim and villain. He's pretty much a bottomless pit of want, and has an equally limitless capacity for sufferring. I first encountered Manhog in the first Jim Woodring comic I ever saw: "Manhog Beyond the Face" where a self-inflicted blow to the head causes terrible hallucinations and tragic misunderstandings. Very atypically for a Woodring strip, it includes narration along with the pantomime, an experiment in formal qualities which is put to brilliant use in the hugely disturbing 'little chrome leg' sequence. Which, in turn is Manhog's greatest, or at least most memorable for me, moment.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 1 September 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Manhog Beyond the Face; the sequence I'm talking about happens on pages 5, 6 & 7.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 1 September 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Mo's stereotypical lesbianism is her biggest flaw, or at least it is in some of the strips -- she seems to often be movivated by a sense of "what is expected" of her. She is a lesbian, lesbians have crop cut hair, therefore she will have crop cut hair.

I can't think of any good examples of where this has completely backfired for her, since it's been a while since I've read the strip. But this is a common theme among gays and lesbians (who often go through a period of "well I'm gay so I'd better buy some Madonna CDs!" which sometimes NEVER ENDS ARGGH) and of course among the non-gays and -lesbians out there too.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 2 September 2005 01:42 (twenty years ago)

i think the best parts of mo, are when she falls in love, and she doesnt exactly know how to, her complicated, avoiding of heterosexist norming with sdyney is the best example a

anthony, Saturday, 3 September 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

MORE

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Monday, 5 September 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)

#50. Spider Jerusalem (Transmetropolitan)

(49 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/spiderj-758228.jpg

[No blurb or greatest moment for him - if someone wants to send me a blurb I will cut and paste it in this space]

Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 September 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Greatest moment: anything involving the Bowel Disrupter.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Monday, 5 September 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Surprised that ol' Spider made it in! I liked "Transmetropolitan", but Jerusalem seemed to much of a gonzo Hunter S. cliché to qualify as a "great character" imo. He had plenty of great hijinks tho!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

He had no votes at all until about halfway through.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

TS: spider jerusalem vs uncle duke

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 5 September 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

*cough*

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 11 September 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

#49 Optimus Prime (Transformers)

(53 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/optimus-743096.jpg

Greatest Moment: His death in the Transformers movie, obviously. I was five years old, and I think I started freaking out and crying. (Laura)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

#48. Flex Mentallo (Doom Patrol/Flex Mentallo)

(53 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/flex-748988.jpg

Imaginary friends is a constant Grant Morrison trope, because after all that's what comics characters used to be for a lot of kids. Flex Mentallo, in Doom Patrol and particularly in his own series, is Morrison's most involved working-through of this idea, acting almost as the imaginary friend of superhero comics themselves. Flex, slightly dim, often baffled, always heroic, is as much symbol as character but is no less memorable for that. Also he has one of the greatest origin issues in comics!

Greatest Moment: Flex turns the Pentagon into a circle. (Vic Fluro)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

You have to love that thigh stubble.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I forgot to mention - tied points are being decided by the highest placing each character got (so Flex Mentallo got a 2nd place from someone, beating Optimus Prime who got a 5th or 6th)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

..........

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

God has it really been a week? I'll see if I can sneak one in before I leave work.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

#47. Marv (Sin City)

(56 points)

http://homepage.mac.com/merussell/iblog/B835531044/C31175526/E1653270529/Media/Marv1.gif

He's the heart and soul in the Sin City universe -- every other protagonist has been an unimaginative and tired genre exercise. Balancing his invigorating self-unawareness with intimate familiarity with the seamy underworld and his ultimate fate, and with dialogue that Frank Miller hasn't topped since... (Leee)

Greatest Moment: I want to say the panel where he kicks in the windshield of the police car, but that's mostly because I love its art. Instead, I'll go with Marv shooting at the statue of Roarke and then laughing like the loveable psycopathic lunatic that he is. (Leee)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

#46. Darkseid (New Gods etc.)

(56 points)

Darkseid is the nuclear bomb of the DC Universe. He's Mutually Assured Destruction. He's powerful enough that he could take down every hero who's ever been a member of the JLA with one Omega Beam behind his back, but he's such a cocky bastard that he never quite does. While his life's work, the Anti-Life Equation, is essentially the End of All Things, he's not necessarily a bad guy. (Huk)

Greatest Moment:
http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/darkseid-794253.jpg

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Is Darkseid supposed to be reading Mein Kampf in that pic? If so, why is it spelled Mein Kamph?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 25 September 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Why is it spelled Darkseid?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 25 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Why is Obercon covered in brown ooze?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 25 September 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Oberon has just crawled through a sewer.

That's how they spell "struggle" in Apokoliptian, and he's reading his own book.

kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Mein Oomph

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Update!

steviespitfire, Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)

Don't fret, we'll be done by 2007.

chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Thursday, 29 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

I think the Roy of the Rovers cover is pretty scary... Hairstyle aside, everyone in it has exactly the same face and the same evil eyes. It looks kinda like the Come to Daddy cover. Is Roy leading a team of clones?

Not at all.
Left to right they are Noel Baxter (team joker), Jimmy ???(the kid), Blackie Gray (Roy's best friend), Charlie 'The Cat' Carter (goalkeeper), Roy Race, Lofty Peak (hard man), Mervyn Wallace (inconsistent genius), and Duncan MacKay (the Scot).

Joe Kay (feethurt), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

So, about this, then...

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I want my...
I want my...
I want my ILC (Favourite Characters of All Time Poll Results)!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I should have submitted my late Wulf Sternhammer vote. These results are coming out as slow as der cucumber.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Most of the characters already announced are dead by now.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

JUST KIDDING. HABEAUS MARCIANO CORPUS!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

I have deleted my bookmarks for all other boards and will try and rectify this ongoing situation.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

bUMP

Laura H. (laurah), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

Tom is running a telethon today so you won't get any.

Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

#45. Hellboy (Hellboy)

(59 points)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/wedge/uploaded_images/hellboy-746341.jpg

Like a savvier, more knowledgeable and more indestructible Marv. Just as key is the fact that he's out there in the world, with friends who actually look up to him, and the fact that he tangles with Nazis, Rasputin, vampires, werefrogs, dragons, ghosts, demons and manages to tell them all to shut up in so many words, cos he's got the Right Hand of Doom to back him up, you know. (Leee)

Best moment: From Wake the Devil, when he jumps out of the plane with the jetpack that doesn't work, stubbornly clicking the ignition without success while freefalling, and muttering, "Aw crap," which sums up his appeal: unprepossessing, straight-forward and with understated humor. (Leee)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

£1100 raised so far, by the way.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Nicely done!

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Let us not forget PANCAKES!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 7 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Was Hellboy created with Ron Perlman in mind? Because WOW.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

The first meeting between the director and Mignola when they were making the film was apparently one they were both nervous about, because each of them was going to insist that it had to be Perlman for the lead role.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

bump in case anyone wanted to know the winners

chaki, Friday, 24 August 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

ten months pass...

http://www.empireonline.com/50greatestcomiccharacters/default.asp?c=50

chap, Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

Rather boring list. Japan is represented by one character, Europe (outside 2000AD) by two. And who the hell puts two characters from Preacher on a top 50 list, and neither of them is Cassidy?! Jesse Custer was like the most boring character in the whole comic, the Tintin of his own book.

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:46 (seventeen years ago)

RIP Mona Lisa Ludatits ;_;

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

The really striking thing about the list is its complete avoidance of kids' characters (obviously, yes, a lot of the ones featured weren't meant for adults originally).

Groke, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not clicking 50 times to read that whole list.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.dulcepinzon.com/en_projects_superhero.htm#

Superhero day jobs.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 10 July 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, Jesse and Cassidy are pretty much like Tintin and Haddock, right?

t-bomb from Tuomas!

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 10 July 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

eleven years pass...

no idea this happened, due for a refresh during covid imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 17:04 (five years ago)

Spiderman
The Creeper
Mysterio
The Lizard
Green Goblin
Madcap
Ghost Rider
Eternity
Dormammu
Clea
Dr Haunt
Winnie The Witch
Mr L. Dedd
Mr Bones
Impy
Uncle Creepy
Cousin Eerie
Crypt Keeper
Old Witch (sorry, no Vault Keeper)
Dr Death
Kenshiro
Shin
Rei
Devilman
Lady Death
Chicken George

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:21 (five years ago)

The Hulk

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 5 July 2020 13:25 (five years ago)


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