returning to Palomar meant I liked the Beto parts more than I expected
― ┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:36 (thirteen years ago)
Oh cool, I didn't realize! A return to Palomar is a good move for Beto. I find that I'm generally only really interested in his Palomar stuff or his experimental work (a la Fear Of Comics).
― This Whole Fridge Is Full Of (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)
early L&R is mediocre but almost every great long-running comic starts off kind of weak, with precious few exceptions.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 14 September 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)
I'm a Hernandestan, so I think they went from good to great, and got the mediocre out of the way in 1970s pre-L&R juvenilia, sketchbooks and fanzine illos. Except for Mario, I think his work has always been mediocre.
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Friday, 14 September 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)
http://archive.org/details/0476_Untitled_Milton_Caniff_01_45_26_20
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:18 (thirteen years ago)
Damn. That look's cool.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:19 (thirteen years ago)
no sound as far as i can tell
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)
Twitter friend of mine grabbed the first two of those Fantagraphics EC artist-themed volumes. Reading Kurtzman's now. Feeling inadequate.
― Matt M., Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:39 (thirteen years ago)
huh, amazon doesn't have them out yet
― This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 September 2012 07:13 (thirteen years ago)
He picked them up at SPX, where Fantagraphics was pre-selling them. The Kurtzman and Wood volumes will be out next month or so.
― Matt M., Sunday, 23 September 2012 03:22 (thirteen years ago)
About to start latest volume of Lars Jansson's Moomin comic strip, which am much looking forward too
― computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Sunday, 23 September 2012 08:28 (thirteen years ago)
Kung Fu This is dead?
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 27 September 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)
Got the Prophet TPB since there have been so many positive reviews of the series, so far I've read 4 issues of it, and I dunno... There are some cool scenes and settings, but the plot feels kinda flimsy (if the Earth Empire wants to rise again, why are they doing it via thousands of clones of the same person? isn't that kinda genetically unfeasible?); if I want to a read comic where people wander through alien landscapes and meet alien creatures with minimal plot, I'd rather read Moebius. Also, while the artist in the first three issues is not bad, in my opinion his rough and sketchy style isn't very good for this type of comic. Sketchy style can be good if you're depicting everyday objects and scenes, since people know how they're supposed to look like and can fill in the details in their minds, but when you're drawing otherworldly vision of things readers aren't familiar with, skipping the details isn't a good thing. (See the Worlds of Aldebaran series recently translated by Cinebook for an example of a comic where a detailed, rich art style works perfectly to emphasize the strangeness of extraterrestrial creatures and landscapes.) Thankfully issue #4 features a more detailed artist, but skimming through issue #5, looks like another sketchy artist is reeled in again.
I do think this series has a lot of potential, but I wonder if it gets any better after these initial issues?
― Tuomas, Friday, 28 September 2012 08:01 (thirteen years ago)
Yup, I liked it but also felt a bit muted, same as you.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 28 September 2012 10:48 (thirteen years ago)
I'll third the "meh" reaction to Prophet. I read that first complete arc and nothing about it compelled me to read more. It felt like an undistinguished 70s/80s Heavy Metal wannabe.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 28 September 2012 13:24 (thirteen years ago)
I like Prophet a lot; definitely see the metal hurlant but somehow transcended the corny big titty stuff
Just got the first Vertical volume of Tezuka's Adolf. It's Tezuka at prime but how that hits you is dependent on how you like him.
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 September 2012 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
Can't vouch for the translation but:http://manga.animea.net/adolf-ni-tsugu-chapter-1-4.html
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 September 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.fantagraphics.com/browse-shop/ralph-azham-vol.-1-why-would-you-lie-to-someone-you-love-2.htmloboy oboy oboy, my fave comic writer/artist right now has newly translated work. just knocked out the first volume on contact. it's great.
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 04:55 (thirteen years ago)
I just found out Trondheim has a tumblr. Lots of good sketches and the like.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 04:59 (thirteen years ago)
Adolf is great. It gets super-complicated to follow in the middle books though.
Incidentally, I don't say it enough, but those Phoenix books are just batshit odd and SO GOOD.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:07 (thirteen years ago)
forks, should i read Dungeon? i love sfar but i've never seen it before...
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)
I'm bot Forks, but emphatically YES! Dungeon is a blast.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 12:59 (thirteen years ago)
Not forks, bot forks, same thing. :)
beep boop beep
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)
exactly.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)
anyways FUCK YES to Dungeon; it's probably my favorite currently active book.the difficulty is in figuring where to start; part of the appeal is that all the books inform one another, but often in oblique ways that can take a lot of reading to figure out. I would say start here:http://www.amazon.com/Dungeon-Zenith-Set-Vols-1-3/dp/156163624X/
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)
I bought a slew of Dungeon sight unseen, was very pleasantly surprised.
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)
ok, i ordered that zenith set. if i like it, forks, i'll be relying on you to tell me what to get next.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 13:47 (thirteen years ago)
I would tentatively offer the following order based on what's currently available:Zenith 1-3Early Years 1-2Parade 1-2Twilight 1-3Monsters 1-4Each book is two complete stories, so there's currently 28 dungeon stories translated in English
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:40 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, Zenith was what I read first. Really great stuff.
― Old Lunch, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:45 (thirteen years ago)
Forks on point - I think that's a good order for reading them.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:47 (thirteen years ago)
FWIW: Zenith is friendly funny stories about the golden days of the Dungeon, Early Years explores the idealistic youth of the Dungeonkeeper, Parade is more lighthearted stories in the golden days, Twilight is about what happens to Marvin and Herbert after the golden days and Monsters offers deeper backstory for everyone with a rotating cast of artists
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:51 (thirteen years ago)
i read only a single volume of Twilight, but it was pretty cool. i should hunt more of them down
― Nhex, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)
Just got a copy of the city of ember: the graphic novel-- idk anything about the original source material but it looks like children protagonists in post-apoc setting?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
thinking about checking this out too: http://www.215ink.com/catalog/transmeet.html
anyone know anything about any of their titles?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 17:59 (thirteen years ago)
the dungeon volumes came in -- i'm looking forward to reading them this weekend!
― Mordy, Friday, 5 October 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
yer gonna love em.
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:13 (thirteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeon_(comics)argh SEVEN unpublished-in-English stories and nothing new in about a year from NBM WTF WTF WTF
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:21 (thirteen years ago)
from the guy who does johnny hiro: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2144748693/alison-and-her-rainy-day-robot
― Mordy, Sunday, 7 October 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)
Okay I just started reading about all of the changes to the Avengers and seeing Cannonball and Sunspot on the main roster is like WOW AWESOME
Gonna go bankrupt buying all of these comics
― Technology of the Big Muff (DJP), Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
Got a link? I know nothing of this stuff
― Nhex, Sunday, 7 October 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
Just bought the first Dungeon Early Years on recommendation of this thread, and loving it after only 20 pages. Thanks guys!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 October 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)
Oops, starting in the wrong order, but enjoying it anyway!
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 8 October 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
As long as you read each arc in order you can enjoy each however you like. Some bits will resonate more of you know this or that, but hey, that's what re-reading is for.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 October 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
each successive series directly informs the earlier works in really meaningful ways so the book really rewards rereading at intervalsyou'll be pretty confused in twilight. ride it out. much is explained.by the way, Ralph Azhum is unsurprisingly great
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 October 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
read vol 1 of zenith today. lots of fun. i feel like there are some moments that are super classic sfar (like a line or illustration that is completely weirdo in his style) and i wonder how closely they worked together on dungeon?
― Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
i assume really closely, bc that's how these things go, but did sfar share some of the writing?
yeah, sfar and trondheim co-write pretty much all of dungeon, sorry i didn't make that clear.I see more trondheim touches honestly but together they're very voltron.
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)
i can't believe i'm just finding out about these. i spent the last ~4 years wondering where all the new sfar in translation books were
― Mordy, Monday, 8 October 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.tcj.com/reviews/dungeon-monstres-vol-4/simply can't believe it's taken them over a year to get a new volume out in english grrrrrrrr
― EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:12 (thirteen years ago)