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it sure reads like an EC plotline

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that was an actual episode of Tales From The Crypt (starring Jon Lovitz!).

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

ACTING!

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

that tales from the crypt eps was different - lovitz kills off a guy playing hamlet but it turns out the guy was going to be a real-life yorick prop and lovitz suffers his fate instead

google leads me to similar stuff like this, which is close but no cigar

http://marvel.wikia.com/Mystery_Tales_Vol_1_8#Appearing_in_.22The_Madman.21.22

why I remember it clearly was the grisly panels - there's actually one of the guy dropping the decapitated head into a pot of boiling water to convert it to a skull, but I'm not about to google "boil decapitated head"

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

somewhat related... Drew Friedman's visit to the MAD offices as a teenager: http://drewfriedman.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-visit-to-mad-magazine.html

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:39 (thirteen years ago)

A few years ago I bought a 4 dvd set of horror comics .cbr's on Ebay in order to get a hold of my favorites: Gold Key's "Ripley's Believe It Or Not". Genuinely creepy ghost story comics that never fail to give me the willies.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah! my favorite was the one w/ springheel jack

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/300w/302/193021/6836761_1.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

* a man bumps his head at a subway station and suddenly has the ability to see the monsters who have been masquerading as humans, then he gets on the wrong subway car (always thought this was an influence on jacob's laddder, similar feel)

I managed to figure this one out - a miracle, considering it was originally published as "dungeon of doom" in chamber of chills #6 in 1952, then redrawn and retitled "the monsters" in tales of voodoo in '74, and then republished in horror tales in '76 and weird in '79. I remember the redrawn version from the '76 horror tales, the '52 version is available online tho:

http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/2007/08/dungeon-of-doom.html

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

love how jaunty skeleton-conductor is in the next to last panel there

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

That's a good blog -- I finally found one of my horror favorites there. Guy who loves the sadism of boiling lobsters alive gets herded into a volcanic vent by a bunch of vengeance-minded crustaceans.

http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/2008/04/red-as-lobster-jim-mooney-rip.html

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

I think what creeped me out about "dungeon of doom"/"the monsters" was the lack of moral or irony, the two victims are innocents who get sadistically dispatched, plus the implied doomsday scenario at the conclusion

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/dungeon_of_doom.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Ha that lobster one has been on my mind since 1986.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

POOR PAUL... YOU'RE BEING BOILED ALIVE!

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

If I could draw, I'd do a variation where the sadist loves roasting beets and a bunch of tubers lock him out of his house in the hot sun. "Poor Paul...you're red as a beet!"

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

I'll stand corrected on the computer color separation issue and won't argue that Pacific Comics often fell on the garish side of things in their recoloring jobs. I also don't particularly mind it. It looks like a very specific period in comics to me, which I remember fondly.

And if you want crazy colors, check out the Baxter paper reprint books that Marvel did around the time of MARVEL PREMIERE. Some wacky stuff going on there.

Oh, and horror-wise: STRANGE EMBRACE. Any good? I have a copy I got cheap years ago and lost in my labyrinthine 'to read' assemblage. Should I dig it out?

Matt M., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

The British girls comic "Misty" owns this thread, though the fact that its contents remain unreprinted means I can think of them as being wayyyyyy scarier than they actually were. Not sure what I would now make of the one where a girl is rendered catatonic after (implicit) gang-rape by garden gnomes.

Preacher is not horror. Sandman is goth but not horror. Alan Moore Swamp Thing is goth but not horror. Hellblazer is not horror.

Apart from Misty, all those EC-style titles win.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

Misty is fantastic. I have bought a couple of annuals and (aside from spotting Brit luminaries like John Ridgeway) they are flat-out brilliant. Actually, all girls comics are worth re-evaluation.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:35 (thirteen years ago)

Alan Moore Swamp Thing is goth but not horror

lol waht

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

"not horror". right

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRI3pfLwuCppilNvmop4UL6fIns6KBohQgIFDoa0XwLg4ruUJfKKE0t2G5Duw

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OpcKuKK7bVM/TQTp-0syktI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/efL94TBiJWg/s1600/swamp29_08.jpg

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

Moore's Swamp Thing started out as horror, but that was only roughly the first third of his run.

Old Lunch, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Matt, STRANGE EMBRACE is amazing, rescue it from the stack

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:24 (thirteen years ago)

Will do, once I get research reading under control.

It's funny, but I've heard people put forth that Moore's on SWAMP THING wasn't horror. They're completely wrong. It turned into outsider SF, sure, but before that? Yeah, cringing horror.

Matt M., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I think the horror stuff (zombies, possession, monsters, ghosts, serial killers, werewolves, vampires, demons, satanic cultists, etc.) is very much front-and-center until the "battle in heaven" and Swampy goin off into outer space.

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

this showed up in my FB feed today

http://www.raggedclaws.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/l-b-cole_uncanny-tales-n23_aug1954.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:06 (thirteen years ago)

THAT is a cover. Thought it was Kurtzman, but what I could dig up credits Russ Heath on the cover. Beyootiful.

Matt M., Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

Manga has barely had a mention here so I'll recommend The Drifting Classroom.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 04:11 (thirteen years ago)

I think it's LB cole?

xp

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 05:30 (thirteen years ago)

russ heath sounds right - it's too well-drawn to be LB Cole, and it's not Kurtzman's style at all (and besides, he was working exclusively for EC at the time, never drew 'serious' covers for any comics publisher, didn't partic approve of horror comics anyway, even EC's, and only ever produced humour material for Atlas eg 'Hey Look')

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:16 (thirteen years ago)

heath went on to work with kurtzman on 'little annie fanny', and actually lived in the playboy mansion for a while!

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)

btw, here's a link to a repro of ditko's most famous warren strip, 'collector's edition' - just look at the rendering!

http://johnnybacardi.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/heres-that-steve-ditko-story-i.html

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 06:23 (thirteen years ago)

It's possible that the Vicar is being satirically rockist. I take the point that Sandman stands out a little, but it's an open discussion whether this is because it's added to lists like this to sex them up a bit, or because there is an indie resisitance to adding the popular to the good.

Misty certainly appears to be the real thing, though.

I suspect I am the only person in the world that loves this, but Mark Millar's run on Swamp Thing, with art by Phil Hester and Kim DeMulder, is really great horror.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 10:27 (thirteen years ago)

You're not wrong, it's a good run.

passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)

I would have called Joe Maneely on that cover, but I wouldn't put money on it.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

def not maneely, his work was far more 'open' (ie not nearly so many solid blacks, and far more linework.) the cross-hatching over the moon looks v. like heath's work at this time, p sure that's the correct credit.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

that ditko story is gorgeous!

fit and working again, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

I sometimes forget exactly how good Russ Heath was (well, is.) The omnipresent blacks and oppression made me think of Kurtzman.

Still waiting eagerly for those EC artist-oriented editions to start coming out from Fantagraphics.

Matt M., Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Yeath, Heath is such a superb draughtsman - esp love the duotone strips he did for Warren in the 60s and 70s, and those sexy humour strips that appeared in National Lampoon in the early 70s;

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZxirBv0BY6A/SdopCBYLb_I/AAAAAAAAAlc/qSkPMf8k5tU/s400/25+National+Lampoon+Encyclopedia+of+Humor+1973.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:34 (thirteen years ago)

that ditko story is gorgeous!

yeah this is amazing - thx for the link

Harvey Cartel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:53 (thirteen years ago)

russ heath sounds right - it's too well-drawn to be LB Cole, and it's not Kurtzman's style at all (and besides, he was working exclusively for EC at the time, never drew 'serious' covers for any comics publisher, didn't partic approve of horror comics anyway, even EC's, and only ever produced humour material for Atlas eg 'Hey Look')

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 2:16 AM (12 hours ago)

yeah I was going based on the blog it was posted to, but they probably just misidentified an uncredited cover. cole's stuff is all over the place, and the cool things about that uncanny tales cover overlap with his better qualities (poster-like starkness, reliance on color). but the water detail def gives it away.

here are a couple cool cole covers

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/801743-MaskComics1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/592785841_o.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

don't want to img bomb the thread, here's a stunning non-horror cole

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/2072893671_1f7f4e5e70_b.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

Great cover design, but one drawback -- at first I thought those footprints were, uh, gross objects falling out of Catsidekick's body. xpost

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:26 (thirteen years ago)

I guess that's another giveaway on that uncanny tales cover, cole's depth of field is not that well-developed. it doesn't matter much when he does stuff like that mask cover, which really pops.

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)

also if cole did that uncanny tales cover the moon would be bleeding into the sea and the boat would be shaped like a psychedelic banana of death

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

here's a heath cover for uncanny tales, actually credited so we don't have to debate

what happened to harry? dunno, looks like he's into acid now

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/Uncanny48Heath.jpg

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:34 (thirteen years ago)

Holy shit, that one is amazing. I want a big poster of it!

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

sorry carl agatha if I turned this into the horror comics cover thread

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:52 (thirteen years ago)

Wow, those are great, great, great. Why are covers from sixty year old comics so much braver than what we're getting today?

Matt M., Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:55 (thirteen years ago)

all the discussion of swamp thing reminded me of my fave man-thing issue, night of the laughing dead, where the ghost of a clown who commits suicide helps man-thing defend hippies from rednecks

http://powerrecord.blogspot.com/2007/11/man-thing-night-of-laughing-dead.html

vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 21:56 (thirteen years ago)

Old Lunch- There's a book called Ghastly Terror with a complete index of pre-code American horror comics (Four Color Fear might have that too, can't remember). There's also The Great Monster Magazines: A Critical Study Of The Black And White Publications Of The 1950s, 1960s And 1970s.
I've never heard of a complete horror anthology listing though.

Emily- This blog is regularly updated and features mostly 50s comics but occasionally newer stuff. http://thehorrorsofitall.blogspot.com/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 29 August 2016 14:38 (nine years ago)

Nice, thanks Robert!

Our Meals Are Hot And Fresh! (Old Lunch), Monday, 29 August 2016 14:40 (nine years ago)

Ooh, cool, that looks great, RAG.

emil.y, Monday, 29 August 2016 14:50 (nine years ago)

three months pass...

The deluxe complete edition of Junji Ito's Tomie is coming out in the UK on the 3rd of January:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1421590565/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3ENYW8WV04AUU&coliid=I2SVPU7GD92Y4A

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:15 (nine years ago)

This new collection also looks vmic:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Junji-Itos-Dissolving-Classroom-Ito/dp/1942993854/ref=pd_sim_14_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Q2XJZCTK43R838TS2JNC

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:19 (nine years ago)


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