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Hm. Well, that would be better than nothing.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Jordan's got it right, except that I think they are DEFINITELY bringing it back next year - the WW wrap-up I read mentioned that the same creative team (Slott / Pelletier or Bobillo) will be back.

I'm not sure how Marvel will solve the cancellation issue when they glut themselves out of any new break-out successes by flooding the direct market with 284,382 new titles every month.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The thinking must be that comics aren't in competition with each other, at least not from the same publisher -- that someone who likes one Spider-Man comic will happily buy two instead of choosing between them -- but has that thinking been true in the last 10-15 years? Maybe it has, maybe the market hasn't changed as much as I think and it's just that I'm not a teenager now. I'm much more likely to drop a title now, especially if it's in favor of something else.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think that thinking CAN be true nowadays, especially with a fair number of fans leaning towards creator loyalty more than character loyalty. This market flooding would be fine (or justifyable) if Marvel were actively attempting to hit different demographics with these new titles - Jubliee & Mary Jane & Spider-Girl for the girls, Black Widow & Supreme Power & District X for the "sophisticated" super-hero fan, all the spandex Marvel Age titles for the curious manga folx, this subset for the folks that came to Marvel via the movies, this subset for the longtime Marvel Zombies - but even when they "try" to hit a niche (cf. the dopey Tsunami initiative), they either do it wrong (yeah, easy for me to say) or they cut bait before giving the new concepts a chance to take hold.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

From Shulkie editor Tom Brevoort (emphasis my own) (interview here):

"As to why the series – though very well reviewed, had a tough time finding an audience, Brevoort pointed to a couple of factors. 'She-Hulk was launched during a period in which we started up dozens of titles, so it's no surprise that it got lost in the mix. Atop that, the standard answers apply--fans and retailers were skeptical, didn't know what to make of it, and never quite got around to revising their buying patterns. Plus that old favorite song of ‘waiting for the TPB’ - which should be on sale in a week or so, and was more heavily ordered than the average Marvel trade played a role.'"

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Newfound Slott junkies: there's a 5 part Spidey / Human Torch mini coming out early next year (starting in January, I think)?

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

they either do it wrong (yeah, easy for me to say) or they cut bait before giving the new concepts a chance to take hold.

Or both!

I miss Quesada's long-abandoned promise to minimize new books and especially new solo books, which he seems to have respun as "except for miniseries and really good stuff" (if your intent is just to limit output to "good comics," do you really need a promise more specific than that?) I think he gets way too much criticism, as Jemas did when he was around (and I think the criticism is mostly because he makes himself a more public figure than his predecessors did, and because no one had any real expectations of Marvel for a number of years before he stepped in), but that one's exasperating.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 8 November 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Slott Machine talks about She-Hulk.

"I've seriously been toying with the idea of pitching a four issue 'Awesome Andy' mini to the guys at 'Marvel Age.' Four done-in-one stories for all ages about what Awesome Andy does on his weekends and days off. Kind of like Curious George stories. Like, 'Awesome Andy Goes to the Zoo' or 'Awesome Andy and the Treasure Map.' What do you guys think?"

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 2 December 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got this TPB and I really dig Awesome Andy. Too bad it's only a matter of time before a Byrne-a-like wipes out all this fascinating development in favour of some retarded shite.

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 2 December 2004 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Was it Thor -- it must have been Thor -- where Titania showed up acting totally contrary to how she was being portrayed in Deadpool, where she was a regular, necessitating the reveal that she was "actually" Copycat all along? I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen with Awesome Andy. I'd be disappointed as hell, though.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 3 December 2004 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I just got the trade too!
I've read the first story and part of the second. Holy crap is it ever good! Holy, holy crap.
I actually laughed out loud at the comic books as legal documents because of the CCA. Oh man. I hate myself for not reading this before.
This makes two Marvel books I like and they both star lawyers!

― Huk-L, Friday, 3 December 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

yeah, I got "Single Green Female" too, it's excellent!

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Just wandering by - YEAH! She Hulk is GRATE! This month they DEAL with every single She-Hulk Continuity "problem" EVER with ELEGANCE and HUMOUR and BRILLIANT-NESS - the whole involvement in Avengers: SORTED, without in any way contradicting what was in that OR everything in the main series so far! Also had MUCH jokes about using comics as legal documents, also logical guest characters, also CHARACTER! DEVELOPMENT! and also a CLIFFHANGER that's PROPER.

It really is very very very good indeed - and his Spiderman/Human Torch is BRILL as well.

― MJ Hibbett, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Slott's gonna be doing a JLA (not FKAJL either) run later this year!

I really like the Spidey/Torch thing, but I think it would have been better if they had run it on newsprint. I think the effects they're going for with the colouring and inking don't translate to this newfangled glossy paper.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Sounds like that JLA run might not be happening, since Slott's since signed an exclusive with Marvel, but Juan Bobillo will be returning to She-Hulk for the revamp!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4973

― Huk-L, Monday, 21 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, Slott's supposed to be working on a monthly Thing series!

JUAN BOBILLO! W00T!

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 21 March 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...

THREE MORE WEEKS!
preview pages!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5961

hopefully this will soothe all my Crisis Anxieties.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

can someone ysi any of this great-sounding stuff?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

Did I ever complain about She-Hulk? In any case, I was wrong. It's pretty good!

― Leeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Regarding issue #2 (of the new one): it would have been a damn sight better twist if the artist had been told beforehand that all of the jurors were supposed to be from 2004. Unless a suspiciously high number of them were into Civil War re-enactment.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

SPOILER FOR MOST RECENT ISSUE UNLESS MOST RECENT ISSUE CAME OUT TODAY IN WHICH CASE I HAVEN'T READ IT YET

I've been excited about Two-Gun Kid showing up, because although not many people know Matt's not just a gunslinging honorary Avenger, he's also a Harvard-educated lawyer, I'm betting Slott does.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

No doubt!

I totally thought Starfox was the Avenger-in-stasis, tho, & have had to delay my Starfox-joy for 2 months, which is surprisingly hard!

GIVE SLOTT A SPIDER-MAN TITLE PLEASE! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!

DAMN IT PLEASE!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

SLOTT IF THEY OFFER A SPIDER TITLE: ACCEPT IT PLEASE DAMN IT

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Remember when Busiek had Spider-Man: The Hidden Years or whatever it was called? Slott should have something like that -- something in the 1980s Black Cat, Black Costume, Puma era, which is pretty much right before everything got weird.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Actually, he should write an Avengers book set at that time, too, right before Roger Stern left (iirc?) -- before Dr Druid joins the team, the Wasp/Starfox/Captain Marvel/Black Knight team. With all that BK-Wasp crush action!

I think I'm just saying Slott should write all the Marvel books from the Shooter era of my childhood. Slott's Beyonder Follies! Slott's Iron Man in Red And Silver Armor! Slott's Cloud And Andromeda -- Remember Them? Guest-Starring Firebird.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

He should just get his own imprint where he can do nothing but fill-in-the-gaps style stories like he did in Spidey/Torcho, and TY TEMPLETON PLEASE.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:28 (twenty years ago)

i want to read this stuff

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Go pick up the She-Hulk trade! Or both of them, I don't know if there's a second one out yet. The Spider-Man trial issue is still my favorite, I think.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:35 (twenty years ago)

Slocki, also read: Spider-Man / Human Torch: I'm With Stupid (which Huk mentioned, & will rightfully mention @ the drop of a hat). It's Slott doing boffo Webhead & Flamehead team-ups from various eras in Marvel history - the early years, the college years, the Spideymobile 70s, the post-Beyonder 80s, and today!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

I have got to stop pimping shit in parlance that assumes the reader knows, for instance, what "post-Beyonder" means.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Is that the new Kelly & Michelle album?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh, wow - that pun paid me in rape dollars.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

*knowing wink*

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

I really want to find my Matchbox Spideymobile.

But yeah, Slott's Spidey/Torch is well worth getting, and I don't think Huk had read much Spidey (right?), so its appeal doesn't rely on memories of those eras nearly as much as I thought it did.

It's like if you subtract Geoff Johns from Kurt Busiek, you have Dan Slott. Or something.

― Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Watch out - creator math is dangerous stuff.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

(right?)

Correct, however, I have seen every single episode of the 60s Spider-Man cartoon several times (because we didn't have cable TV until I was about 8). And, the Spider-Man therein correllates well enough to the Spidey/Torchy version (especially in the first two issues) that I was hooked. PARRRRR-KER!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, slocki!

There are TWO FULL ISSUES of She-Hulk available online. One's @ MileHighComics.com, and one's @ Marvel.com - I think Marvel.com is hosting #1 of the 2003/4 series.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

ooh! is that stuff in the trade? what's in the trade?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:43 (twenty years ago)

I think there are two trades? The first trade has the first 6 issues (of Slott's first volume), and the 2nd has the final 6 issues (of Slott's first volume). Slott-Hulk v2.0 is up to #4.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Exactly.
I got the trade and then started reading by the issue, missing just one (just before the cosmic justice storyline).
The first trade, is super-awesome and essential (and contains the Spidey story), everything is pretty great, but not AS great (art team changed).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:46 (twenty years ago)

BONUS: if you buy v2.0 #3, you get 100 PAGES OF SHEXSHY SHULK ACTION. Of course, 48+ of those pages are reprints of Savage She-Hulk #1 (mega ungh - if John Buscema actually needed proof that he belongs in Heaven, this be it) and Sensational She-Hulk #1 (more ungh than I remembered).

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)

this marvel digital comix thing seems to be stalling up on me!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:52 (twenty years ago)

INSERT MORE QUARTERS

― marvel digital comix thing-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

HELP

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

ok just tell me what happens

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:59 (twenty years ago)

4 SLOCKI

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:05 (twenty years ago)

what a guy!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

ok that was pretty good. didn't blow my mind or crack me up too hard tho

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:23 (twenty years ago)

OUT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

#4 is the one to read.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:29 (twenty years ago)

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Just started reading the Dan Slott run of She-Hulk. So unbelievably good! So funny, subtle, great characterization; argh the greatness of this comic

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

"...after some very serious thought and soul-searching, I think I've figured it out. The real reason Jonah Jameson hates me... is because I'm black."

ROFLS!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

GET THEE ONE (1) SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH: I'M WITH STUPID JUGHEAD-SIZED DIGEST!!!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

I MIGHT HAVE TO GET THIS TODAY!!! (the torch/spidey digest i mean)
(i want to get the first two shulkie trades before i get this one.)

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

get it dude!!! it's so great. i actually prefer it to she-hulk.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Why doesn't Marvel let Slott write regular Spidey? Or regular Fantastic Four even?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

She-Hulk has a shockingly detailed Wikipedia entry

― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

If I ever had a daughter, her name will be She-Hulk obviously is a sane, intelligent lawyer and under no obligation to volunteer potentially self-incriminating information.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:She-Hulk I also removed a reference under the Powers section referring to her "capacity for love and understanding" as her greatest super-power.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Why doesn't Marvel let Slott write regular Spidey? Or regular Fantastic Four even?

they should!! or ultimate for that matter, why not?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

1) Because that'd really cut into JMS' paycheck.
2) Because having 2 "fun" Spidey titles in the regular Marvel Universe (I'm counting PAD's as "fun") would be one too many.
3) Because editorial dictates are Slott's Kryptonite.
4) Because he thinks Spidey's new costume is pants.
5) Because he's slated to start work on a Marville relaunch.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

5) Because he's slated to start work on a Marville relaunch.

???

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's a joke, son; you're supposed to laugh.

― Foghorn L. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

HULK SAD
http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/fans/tyler-warren-2-s.jpg

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

is slott alan grant writing lobo?

meh.

― molly (bulbs), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Now I really regret not nominating JJJ for the best characters poll. I don't know why this constantly delights where the Thing just occasionally amused, but it really does.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that issue is pretty hilarious. I'm a fan of the drink-spittin' page.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Morris Walters being her dad, of course (I didn't get this first time)

There's a lot of talk about his Spiderman above, and I like the way that his JJJ is the opposite - a lot of dumb and crazy stuff has happened to Peter Parker over the last 40 years, so you basically have to pick and choose or end up burying him under the weight of it. Whereas with JJJ the more you pile on the funnier.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

That's sort of the advantage of supporting cast vs. stars.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

The issues with Starfox were great!!

― jel --, Sunday, 25 February 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

B, I, WEN-DI-GO!, c/d?

― Jordan, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

D'ya even have to ask??

― Leee, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Slott's last issues were funny!

― Jordan, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

Should I continue this thread to talk about the Tas Mas vehicle. Or go to MCU.
Anyway, quite deeply fun. I do like a bit of Tas Mas. She's awfully good. & I'm sue she loves being called Tas Mas .
Well anyway, glad this is another good tv show from Marvel.
Was i seeing a LatinX element in the credits. Interesting if so.

― Stevolende, Friday, 19 August 2022 09:34 (three years ago)

THat is to say, looking at end credits I was thinking there was LatinX presence in the crew etc, & pretty female.
Which is good.
Hoping that inclusivity and actual diversity is rising. I was watching a lot of the Film Fatales webinars a couple of years ago which seemed to indicate it was. not sure how clear a lens that would be though. May be its own gaze or something.

Now seeing that Head Writer is Asian American. which is cool in itself.

― Stevolende, Friday, 19 August 2022 09:57 (three years ago)

Anyone been reading the current (Rainbow Rowell) series? I preordered the Vol. 1 trade on spec… been itching to read something new, and it sounded potentially good.

― Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Sunday, 21 August 2022 01:03 (three years ago)

nine months pass...

^Vol. 1 was good – cute and offbeat – and Vol. 2 (which just came out) is even better… kind of next-level, actually, in a few respects. Highly recommended!

― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Thursday, 8 June 2023 06:18 (three years ago)

I just took a look at the previews for Vol. 1 on Amazon, it does look promising.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 June 2023 19:30 (three years ago)

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