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that's a shame! I loved all the pseudo-Stan Lee/"Affable Al" notes and letters pages stuff.

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 September 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I keep waiting for someone to bring back The Fury.

I think Claremont actually did bring back the Fury, in some X-Men story from a few years back.

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 16 September 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

The Birth Caul floors virtually anyone who comes into contact with it, from my experience.

Traitorously, I don't <3 the adaptation, but the CD is the absolute best thing Moore has ever done.

Underground - Parking (2010) (sic), Thursday, 16 September 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Not that I did this, as it would obviously be illegal, but I imagine that you could download all the Miraclemans, turn them into a PDF, and have it printed privately by some place like Lulu.com as a nice big trade paperback (though in black and white, not colour) for about $15. Then, as of course I DID NOT, you could read them and finally enjoy them. You could also do something similar with Morrison's Zenith. Not that I did or would.

... (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 September 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

The B&W Marvelmans look 1,000,000 times better than the colourised versions, has anyone 5cann3d those (and the first two books of V) yet?

Underground - Parking (2010) (sic), Friday, 17 September 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

the latter half of the run was originally in color though...? it's only those first, what, six issues or so that were originally b&w, right?

b&W V for Vendetta was pretty stunning too

ah Warrior magazine...

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The latest issue of Neonomicon is a bit extreme. I liked it, but I wouldn't want to leave it lying around where Aunt Mildred might chance upon it.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 8 October 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I must be tragically out of the loop because I've never heard of this before. Is it worth picking up? I'd hope for something Future Shock-y, but with more gore.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 October 2010 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Neonomicon and The Courtyard a lot, but I also love HP Lovecraft related stuff generally.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 8 October 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Need to read it, as I only have the first issue (which was no plain sailing itself).

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Friday, 8 October 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Those two issues have had me wondering whether Alan Moore has a secret shame as a player of role-playing games. There were bits of them that felt very like Call of Cthulhu sessions, particularly in the second one as the detectives start doing ever more stupid things (and with such hilarious consequences).

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link

So this is Moore doing a Cthulhu mythos comic story? Sounds awesome.

Rob Liefeld pose (chap), Friday, 8 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yuppity yup. They're very well done. I mean, the Courtyard is probably the best Lovecraft-inspired comic ever, and one of the best Lovecraft-style fictions ever by anyone other than Lovecraft.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 8 October 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Who's the artist? I've totally missed this one.

Tuomas, Friday, 8 October 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Jacen Burrows, published by Avatar.

Umm... yeah. That's a pretty extreme comic, right there. I think the CoC thing sounds right, although it's more like a Paranoia version. Wow.

Actually, the cultists kind of remind me of the Crossed.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Friday, 8 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

It was bagged "for adults only" at Forbidden Planet! With a LOT of sellotape!

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 9 October 2010 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Not 100% sure it's for anyone only.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Saturday, 9 October 2010 08:58 (thirteen years ago) link

It was bagged "for adults only" at Forbidden Planet! With a LOT of sellotape!

I love reading comments where the small print says that all characters are over 18.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean comics. duh.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 11 October 2010 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Wasn't there some controversy with Lost Girls having graphic depictions of teens having sex with each other, and with adults? I haven't read Neonomicon so I don't know what's in it, but maybe Moore thought he should play it safe this time?

Tuomas, Monday, 11 October 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd say it was the publisher that put the disclaimer into the small print.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 11 October 2010 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

okay, jeez, where to start. i completely missed the courtyard. and i missed issue #1, though i kept bugging the comic shop people to order it. issue two finally arrived last week, and i picked up a copy. holy shit, what a nasty little mindfuck of a comic, especially those last 6 pages. so hideous, and yet so clinical. almost like black comedy, almost like porn, but mostly just hideous. love alan moore as a writer, though i worry he's lost down a paranoid wormhole of literary reference and hermetic magick, a fear this evil little volume does nothing to assuage. dunno that i've felt so completely truncheoned by a funny book in ages. wanna know what happens next, but shit, do i really wanna know?

anyway, some good reading on reading to be had here.

naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Friday, 5 November 2010 06:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Surprised to see him pop up on the BBC last night talking about Austin Osman Spare.

Dame Anna NAGL (aldo), Friday, 5 November 2010 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link

^ looked like a great exhibition, will try and check it out before it closes.

xtc ep, etc (xp) (ledge), Friday, 5 November 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Before the beard!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhd3wg7G8B1qhb67co1_500.jpg

from the A Moment of Moore tumblr.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 7 March 2011 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

^nothing but luv for both these people btw

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 March 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I really, really need to check out Necronomicon. And I really, really want to do mushrooms with Alan Moore

Franklin_The_Turtle, Monday, 7 March 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

is that his daughter?

You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 March 2011 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

that's tUnE-yArDs

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't understand. Are you saying she looks like Alan Moore?

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

in those pictures, yes? are you winding me up?

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/twins.jpg

, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link

lol

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the future

I just want to give a shout-out to Buzzy Beetles (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I was a bit annoyed to find issue 4 of Neonomicon in my local comic store today. When did issue 3 come out?

The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 24 March 2011 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link

A month ago maybe? I've been looking forward to seeing what happens in issue 4.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I have thus far been afraid to open the pages of issue 4.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 25 March 2011 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Annoyingly, no where in Dublin seems to have a copy of issue 3. Dublin SuXoR.

The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 25 March 2011 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link

And my LCS didn't order enough copies of 4 for me to read it, they're on backorder.

I said Omorotic, not homo-erotic (aldo), Friday, 25 March 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

apologies if this has been mentioned (specifically the picture)

http://www.comicscube.com/2010/07/get-off-alan-moores-case.html

koogs, Saturday, 11 June 2011 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

has any other major storytelling artist (i phrase it that way to include filmmakers and novelists as well as comics writers) ever committed him or herself so wholly and explicitly to appropriating and reinterpreting the work of others? moore has taken his fascination with pre-existing mythologies, genres, characters and character-types so far that he's created a form/genre that's his and his alone, or so it seems to me.

it makes sense that it would be a comic book writer who carried recombinant literary appropriation to its logical extreme, as comics more than any other storytelling form depend on a stable of pre-existing characters and mythologies that grow by slow accretion at the hand of many different artists. many of the british comics writers who came of age in the 80s were similarly interested in the revisionist excavation of pop culture's past, but no one has taken this approach anywhere near so far as moore.

i'm not sure what to make of it. books like the league of extraordinary gentlemen and lost girls provide a good deal of "where's waldo" style character-spotting fun, and the pastiches and tributes are often quite amusing, but there's a weirdly hermetic quality to it all. moore's world seems composed entirely of references to other things, many of them referential in themselves, and it's all held together with an uneasy and often angry sense of paranoia. i'm intrigued by the depth of detail, but there's very little to his storytelling outside polemical vigor and the pleasure of referentiality itself.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

comics more than any other storytelling form

no

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

really? i admit that i'm talking about superhero comics as though they were the entirety of comicdom, but with that out in the clear, i can't think of any other form/genre that's so indebted to a specific mythology and/or canon. the way oral traditions once passed along myths and folktales is comparable, but what else? film and television occasionally recount the exploits of familiar characters (daniel boone, batman, various historical figures), but for the most part not. these forms are nowhere near so fundamentally based on the telling and retelling of a fixed set of stories concerning a fixed cast of characters.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

i admit that i'm talking about superhero comics as though they were the entirety of comicdom,

yes

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

ok

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

"but there's very little to his storytelling outside polemical vigor and the pleasure of referentiality itself."

i have to disagree -- there's a pamphlet-length book he wrote a while back on how to write comic books that shows what he's doing is at least interesting on a formal level that has nothing to do with polemics or referentiality. also, the highest selling comics composed of appropriated cultural mashups right now isn't by alan moore -- it's fables, much to the chagrin of my buddy who thinks fables is beneath comparison.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

a pamphlet-length book he wrote a while back

a series of articles he wrote for Martin in 1985, you mean. reprinted in AH iirc

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i know that moore isn't a big seller these days. nor am i suggesting that stories based on other stories (mashups, w/e) is new or unique to moore. just impressed by how deeply he's burrowed into it.

i would agree that his narrative construction is formally interesting. my complaint is more that he doesn't seem to be addressing anything outside the small room of his pet obsessions: literary history, conspiracy theories, hermetic magic, cranky politics, etc. this makes his work feel weirdly closed to me, shut off from the world. doesn't help that his characters are so relentlessly two-dimensional and symbolic, their relationships and dialogue so unlike anything i've encountered in life. his stories are like dragnet episodes where joe friday and bill gannon are polysexual, sybaritic magickal adepts who keep stumbling into weird porn conspiracies.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link


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