― Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 23 September 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 23 September 2005 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Plus, I think it's time for me to do a reread on the last issues of Doom Patrol. The issues after that last Mr. Nobody story arc never sat well with me, but I was flipping through them today and found that I liked them better in the context of thinking about this stuff as of late. The Case/Woch art team maybe wasn't the best, but it still kinda works. Also, I think I'm over resenting GM for the less savory ways that his stance on mental illness in DP #63 can be interpreted ("a world where everything is alive and significant" is not always better than the alternative), especially in light of The Filth.
― Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 24 September 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 24 September 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 25 September 2005 07:20 (eighteen years ago) link
The actual worst part of the Grant DP run was the Happy Harbor sex men story just after the Pentagon stuff (& the TOTALLY CLASSIC Beard Hunter one-off), that was dreadful and really felt like wheels spinning. Then the second brotherhood stuff was OK, the silver age issue was meh, I LIKED the Rebis moon issue though have never convincingly understood it, and after that it was plot plot plot and fite fite fite but those issues do read better now than at the time.
I read a GM thing last night - his "World Shapers" story for Doctor Who Monthly! Not exactly vintage stuff and John Ridgway was having a serious off-day but there were a couple of moments that were immediately Morrison, that thing he does where the reader and character 1 see something big and weird, and then character 2 treats it really matter-of-factly (which of course just increases the sense of wonder for the reader)
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 25 September 2005 09:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 25 September 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, agree and agree (the Beard Hunter was the issue that I started back up with!). The Shadowy Mr. Evans was supposed to be Red Jack pt. 2 or something but just came off as a boring manic asshole, Gnostic Christ or not. I guess you're right that the series needed a change of pace anyway, since when GM got back to the Weird Menace thing with those issues, it didn't work anymore (because he was bored with it? There's that Weird Menace red herring/autocritique bit that I think happens right before the Sex Men issues).
― Chris F. (servoret), Monday, 26 September 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
1) Your ass must be a beautiful place.2) IT'S ON SON!
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 30 September 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 30 September 2005 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― iodine (iodine), Friday, 30 September 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I am very mad at Quitely for the super package.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 30 September 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 30 September 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I just looked at this, and you're beyond right: some chimp has copy-and-pasted an on-model S-shield over the redesigned one that Morrison and Quitely designed! It's Kirby's Superman-faces all over again.
― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 30 September 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― dave k, Saturday, 1 October 2005 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Sunday, 23 October 2005 06:21 (eighteen years ago) link
(And then, destroy, destroy, destroy...)
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Saturday, 15 April 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm glad you were able to find some good drugs in Mke, Chris. :>
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Saturday, 15 April 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Amazon dopes hate it b/c it violates narrative conventions: the story interrupts itself halfway through and goes in a completely different direction and it's the most Morrisony JLA trade, in terms of the density, Invisibles references (Darkseid invades in 2012, the same year of the end of earth in Invisibles and Terrence McKenna, etc.) and lyrical weirdness (GL is on the grail quest and, standing in a forest of dead superheroes made out of stone, and he tells the new Hourman that he dreamt he was in a field where all his desires have come true, but then notices that everything is green).
― kenchen, Saturday, 15 April 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Yah, this city is great-- I'm so glad that it's my home town! (I'm a Cancer, BTW-- and yes, reading your horoscope in the weekly paper for shits and giggles sometimes is a part of dopey Morrisonmania.) Pt. 2 of My Greatest Adventure today has been even more exciting so far-- I just got back from hiking through the labyrinth at Grant Park down on the South Side. It happens to be the case that one of the Seven Bridges there is down for repairs, so I decided to hack my own way out on the hike back...
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
personally i think the art is awful and the story is terribly paced (no tension, all release) but there's some neat stuff in it for sure.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― c(''c) (Leee), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 15 April 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 16 April 2006 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Sunday, 16 April 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, the camp aspect is part of the fun of Grant Morrison, storyteller. I'm reminded of something Morrissey said in interview on the New York Doll DVD-- everybody has one artist that hit them at the right time growing up and who can never disappoint them. GM is certainly it for me, but that doesn't mean that I'd make his comics mandatory reading for everybody on the planet, or even everybody on ILC (though I don't know if there's anyone here who doesn't read his stuff at this point).
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Sunday, 16 April 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Yellow Kid, Monday, 17 April 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Which ones? I wanna read his Batman just because I'm thinking that his take on it is going to avoid the sort of "fascist" exclusion-from-the-human-race thing that Tuomas seems to be so worried about in regards to superheroes. I bet it's going to be fun-- hopefully they're'll be more "Batman thinks of everything" hijinx as well as science closet goodness.
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Monday, 17 April 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Animal ManSeaguyWe3most of New X-Menone trade of Doom Patrolone or two trades of JLAthe first half of the Filthone trade of the InvisiblesArkham Asylum
― The Yellow Kid, Monday, 17 April 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
In other news, it feels like I'm embarking on a mature reading of DP finally as I wade through this stuff. "Exegesis" is stupid though-- it's better when it's unpacked but still not made explicit. Mum's the word from me on this shite from here on out, except to say that I'm cool with the ending of #63 again.
― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Morrison's hit-and-miss for me, so I tend to pick up his comics only if it sounds like an interesting idea. I liked the idea of Seven Soldiers' structure, the 7 interlocking mini-series, but I never heard much about what it was actually about. I tend to only buy comics that I'm definitely interested in - I'm also a cheapskate. I picked up the first issue of Shining Knight after hearing good things, but I didn't think it was all that good, so I stopped there. I'll probably read Seven Soldiers if the library gets the trades, but I'm not going to buy them.
― The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― sheep sheet (serious sheet), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link