can we kill this thread?

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Dom is basically anonymously cyber-attacking another music writer in a way that's loathsome even for Dom. It's petty and unfair and super-uncool and not keeping it posi.

J0rdan Sargent Slaughter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:34 (ten years ago) link

i h8 you

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:40 (ten years ago) link

who is attacking???? how is this different from marc loi: facebook feminist which even tombot considers a classic thread???

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:41 (ten years ago) link

it is pictures of dom's facebook friend that have brought great joy to me.... its not like theyre personal snapshots or something dude is mugging and dressing up like lil wayne in each one its total fair game

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:41 (ten years ago) link

Sad, petty, easy LOLs about body image + insider baseball writer jealousy bullshit = Dom thread

J0rdan Sargent Slaughter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:43 (ten years ago) link

did whiney g just try to son someone for only posting "insider baseball writer jealousy bullshit"? did that really just happen?

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:54 (ten years ago) link

cant wait for l-jag complaining how everybody else just posts insecure self-analysis + TMI ish

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:54 (ten years ago) link

i post boring industry shit, not personal attacks on other writers

J0rdan Sargent Slaughter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:56 (ten years ago) link

locked. if it is totally harmless and innocuous, dom can let me know and I'll move it to ILE.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 19:58 (ten years ago) link

If you wanna lock it, whatever, but I think it sets a dangerous precedent: posting pictures we've found elsewhere is against ILX rules now?

dude i am totally willing to unlock it if you aren't working out a personal beef on 77. i don't know shit about any of this, so i just went w/what whiney said was going on, because ??? as far as me knowing who that dude is.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:07 (ten years ago) link

move to ILE

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:08 (ten years ago) link

i look forward to dude finding it

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:09 (ten years ago) link

It's no personal beef: like I say, the guy is on my Facebook friends' list. I have no grudge, I just think that the combo of white guy in fancy dress as Lil Wayne + hanging out with fat chicks is kinda of "funny because it's true" to a lot of zingtone posters. I'd rather not have it on ILE because that might mean he'd start posting, and from what I know of his message board behaviour he ain't the kinda dude to Keep It Positive. Up to you JJ.

Hah exp.

from what I know of his message board behaviour he ain't the kinda dude to Keep It Positive.

...

J0hn D., Monday, 22 December 2008 20:12 (ten years ago) link

thx for the explanation dom, will unlock and leave on 77.

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:19 (ten years ago) link

i giggle every time a britisher says "fancy dress" for "costume"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:27 (ten years ago) link

otm

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:32 (ten years ago) link

ha, i'd never even heard of that usage before. weird.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:34 (ten years ago) link

countrymattersinfancydress.jpg changed everything

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:38 (ten years ago) link

I think in Jagger's photo it's "fancy" dress as in the American usage.

mtv true life: im a ringtone poster

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:39 (ten years ago) link

^^would watch^^

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:40 (ten years ago) link

hahahaha

me + ship escaped that one narrowly

silkk the s1ocki (and what), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:44 (ten years ago) link

yes i was going by chaki's jackoff sesh thread model

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 22 December 2008 20:45 (ten years ago) link

i would probably buy that shirt for the wtf value

bnw, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 17:55 (ten years ago) link

it's well-designed

a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 18:05 (ten years ago) link

<3<4<5

The Reverend, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 19:28 (ten years ago) link

fwiw, as i alluded on the other thread, this guy has posted on ILX a few times in the past year or so, so not really a regular but probably does fall under 'board meta' guidelines in that respect. i haven't told him about that thread or invited him to jump into the fray but depending on whether people think that's a good or terrible idea i might do that.

Grungy G. Soundgarden (some dude), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 04:51 (ten years ago) link

more proof that when you gaze into the navel, the navel gazes back

plastic toy shark (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:39 (ten years ago) link

i say invite him

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:41 (ten years ago) link

btw is he surfboard dudes get wiped out totally

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 14:41 (ten years ago) link

haha no -- i think last he posted was over the summer.

Grungy G. Soundgarden (some dude), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 15:07 (ten years ago) link

anyway maybe i'll invite him in a few days if this hasn't blown over by then -- going "merry xmas! btw dudes on a secret board on ILX are all lolling over pictures from your facebook" would be kinda weird.

Grungy G. Soundgarden (some dude), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 15:12 (ten years ago) link

ha, it's all good. i didn't get to see the removed thread but you know. if i was shy about fat chicks these pics wouldn't exist. doesn't bug me, they're funny pics. doing it secretly is a little eh but such is the internet. i'd do the same to dom if dom didn't mysteriously take me off his fbook by the time i saw these. watch out you ol' chubby chaser. happy new year

kiss out the jams, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:15 (ten years ago) link

^^invite 2 77 plz

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:16 (ten years ago) link

^^

choom gangsta (deej), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:47 (ten years ago) link

plz

HOOSytime steenman (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 2 January 2009 22:50 (ten years ago) link

lol that's what's up

some dude, Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:42 (ten years ago) link

the thread isnt even really mean

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:48 (ten years ago) link

not the point-- invite to 77

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Saturday, 3 January 2009 04:56 (ten years ago) link

welcome to the 77 experience, KOTJ!

VISION QUEST TO KNOCK YOU UP (John Justen), Saturday, 3 January 2009 16:24 (ten years ago) link

not the point-- invite to 77

― ♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, January 2, 2009 10:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i already cosigned inviting him. i was just making a general observation

choom gangsta (deej), Saturday, 3 January 2009 22:36 (ten years ago) link

haha deej i noticed that after the full answers loaded when i posted that

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Saturday, 3 January 2009 23:02 (ten years ago) link

hello kiss out the jams-- please post to this thread

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Saturday, 3 January 2009 23:18 (ten years ago) link

Was hoping that'd be WS09

Lady Angstin' (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Saturday, 3 January 2009 23:20 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

So we get this sorted?

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 September 2019 05:08 (two months ago) link

being pictured with fat chicks -- god forbid -- damn y'all were super gross back in the day

sarahell, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:44 (two months ago) link

“y’all” = a raft of ex posters

El Tomboto, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:06 (two months ago) link

plenty of current posters were doing gross fat shaming and objectifying women at the time as well ...

sarahell, Saturday, 7 September 2019 20:10 (two months ago) link

I left out a poll option on this thread, please kill! BuzzFeed’s Off-Brand Character Universe

Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:08 (two months ago) link

am now looking forward to sarahell's hard-hitting exposé of plenty of current posters and their fat-shaming and objectifying pasts they don't want you to see. let the chips fall where they may.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:49 (two months ago) link

I def fat shamed in my early ilx years, I was a p shitty person when I was 18/19. poetic justice is I’m fat now.

wario in the streets, waluigi in the sheets (m bison), Friday, 13 September 2019 01:13 (two months ago) link

am now looking forward to sarahell's hard-hitting exposé of plenty of current posters and their fat-shaming and objectifying pasts they don't want you to see. let the chips fall where they may.

― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:49 PM (three hours ago)

uh, okay? i mean, that wasn't on my agenda? Considering you've been posting forever, I dunno why I would need to tell you something you already know? Anyone else who has only been posting for a few years or somehow confined themselves to ILM or sports boards and wasn't here for "lol fat ppl" and "is this chick something i would put my dick in y or n" posts and threads -- they can use the pretty well designed search function.

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 02:48 (two months ago) link

Yea wtf

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 September 2019 02:51 (two months ago) link

Obviously I don't find that behavior an unforgivable sin and hate everyone who engaged in it -- just, it was a thing people used to do, and it was kinda gross

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 02:54 (two months ago) link

KBP: yo dyke bitch lose some fucking weight

Beth Ditto: What?

KBP: maybe if you stop eating pussy you wont be such a fukkin lardass

Beth Ditto: Have you read my Guardian articles??

KBP: yah ever since dom passantino got sacked yo the only fat queer writing from them

― King Boy Pato, Friday, July 27, 2007 5:24 AM (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:00 (two months ago) link

We need a separate thread for this. Otherwise we might kill the "can we kill this thread?" thread. btw, KBP should have been 51'd twelve years ago for that!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:18 (two months ago) link

lol a thread for ILX History of Fat-Shaming and Objectifying Women would be a really great idea ...

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:21 (two months ago) link

It would make the job of future researchers that much easier.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:23 (two months ago) link

yeah, if they have access to "thread dump" or wherever deleted threads go ...

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:24 (two months ago) link

I should join some message board that’s mostly edgy 22 year olds in 2019, and then when they become civil adults in twelve years I could post things like “oh, we we were pretty gross back then!”

but then one of them will figure out I was nearly 40 at the time

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:41 (two months ago) link

perusing a right to be fat? gives an interesting glimpse into historic ilx discourse on weight issues. I'm not sure how many of the participants still post to ilx, due to the many login name changes over more than a decade.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:51 (two months ago) link

can we not

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:51 (two months ago) link

the squeamish ought not poke
the tidal wrack upon the beach

-- Sappho --

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:55 (two months ago) link

*Huey Lewis voice* a right to be fat

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:55 (two months ago) link

jesus christ

call all destroyer, Friday, 13 September 2019 03:55 (two months ago) link

Esteban chaese teh chubby

― nervous.gif (eman), Friday, April 14, 2006 11:52 AM (thirteen years ago)


The secret is out, holmes :-(

― Father Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, April 14, 2006 1:56 PM (thirteen years ago)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 13 September 2019 03:57 (two months ago) link

The sound of 300 pounds of lard banging against the wall...

buzza, Friday, 13 September 2019 04:38 (two months ago) link

maybe we should start a related kickstarter campaign ...

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 04:48 (two months ago) link

280 lbs
pledged of 300 lb goal

buzza, Friday, 13 September 2019 05:08 (two months ago) link

possible Biff roleplay

Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 13 September 2019 05:13 (two months ago) link

with a porn cartoonist

Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 13 September 2019 05:14 (two months ago) link

should have fired her for starting a union

mookieproof, Friday, 13 September 2019 05:17 (two months ago) link

with a few surprising exceptions, (and a few obvious ones), most ppl on that thread should be ashamed

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 05:18 (two months ago) link

the indefensible thread-sibling to the classic hipster couch sex thread

untuned mass damper (mh), Friday, 13 September 2019 15:53 (two months ago) link

I remember a significant amount of fat-shaming and fat-phobia on various ILTMI threads ... and there are plenty more ... and yeah, ILM has a lot of "lol fat male music nerds" stuff on it, and that is also gross, but the stuff directed at women is the most embarrassing/awful

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:02 (two months ago) link

mea culpa ilx is bad because it doesnt note that the ilx mea culpad for was good compared to the ilx mea culpaing

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:33 (two months ago) link

so, deems, you're saying that ilx, if not already in the gutter dripping with bean juice from a discarded can, is headed there in a handbasket?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:45 (two months ago) link

ilx used to be better but I'm pretty sure it's not because people were posting stuff about "fat chicks" and calling each other "fags" or whatnot, which seems to be your contention

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:46 (two months ago) link

not exactly that, certainly, but the bathwater/baby ratio is questionable somewhere in the "ugh how awful everything was" jim

aimless you seem to be in a very negative spiral of ilx comments and i hope all is well

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:50 (two months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_CE7GqqrvY

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:53 (two months ago) link

no one is saying "how awful everything" was though. they're saying "this specific aspect of old ilx was bad". this is certainly no worse than whatever it is you do whenever anyone makes that kind of point, which is to make a bit of a sophistic argument against that sentiment which is always vague

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:54 (two months ago) link

why dyou think 'ilx used to be better', leaving specific concerns about the thread in question aside

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:59 (two months ago) link

it was better when there were more voices expressing lively opinions & individual perspectives, to be sure. however, many of the now-absent voices were encouraged to leave BY the fat jokes & fag-calling. many others have left for their own IRL reasons, not because of a more polite atmosphere. it’s a furphy to conclude that ILX would be better now if we still had three funny assholes and 12 boring assholes, whether or not we still had a hundred interesting & smart ppl who have also gone.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:01 (two months ago) link

dom used to post

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:01 (two months ago) link

i was gonna say its possibly a question for a separate, non-leading thread

the answer, imo & tbrr, would be in the users answering that it was better now

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:03 (two months ago) link

hi x !

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:03 (two months ago) link

why dyou think 'ilx used to be better', leaving specific concerns about the thread in question aside

― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, September 13, 2019 12:59 PM (three minutes ago)

a lot of good posters don't post here anymore or hardly ever post. thinking about heavyweights like max read or nabisco, not dom passantino - who could be funny, but ultimately was legitimately abusive to a number of posters. this is why ilx isn't as good

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:05 (two months ago) link

there are also plenty of places on the web were you can engage in problematic badinage if that takes your fancy

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:06 (two months ago) link

im here amnt i

thats not far off an "if you dont like it, leave" rejoinder if its in fact any different at all

theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:10 (two months ago) link

it's different

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:14 (two months ago) link

i like you as a poster and you don't post objectionable stuff

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:18 (two months ago) link

i just disagree with you

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:18 (two months ago) link

no one is saying "how awful everything" was though. they're saying "this specific aspect of old ilx was bad".

I thought I made it pretty clear. Even Dom and some of the other problematic posters (e.g. Cankles) had some classic threads where they weren't shitheads.

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:23 (two months ago) link

And we're definitely not going to reach any consensus over who were the best posters who are now sadly missed.

sarahell, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:25 (two months ago) link

posterzoned by jim

Mitch C. Palace (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:16 (two months ago) link

ync3y called me an asshole when I sang "secret *asian man" at karaoke. I should've brought up that thread.

Yerac, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:29 (two months ago) link


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