"Excelsior: The Book"

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What (if any) course of action should be taken based on this spectacular piece of abject supidity?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 19:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There are so many incompatible forms of stupidity there that I'm just going to pick a random answer, depending on which one you don't like, and say "lizard."

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 19:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think it should be retracted. If people are interested in one being manufactured and sold anyway, then a poll should be made of what threads to include and anyone involved should be contacted and asked for permission.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 19:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

wow

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 19:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A clearer understanding of the copyright portion of the FAQ and how that relates to thread and post deletion, esp. regarding requests by posters. Obviously I am biased because I have seen multiple requests for thread and post deletion by someone very close to be go completely ignored. Outside of that, I'm with J0hn and will return to lurkerdom until I can finally wean myself away forever.

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 23 June 2004 19:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

CafePress is generally quick to respond to "the owner of that store does not possess that copyright," for what it's worth.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 20:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I will make any email correspondences I have with CafePress regarding this issue public if requested.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 20:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

this little stunt has done ilx more harm than c*lum and jw combined x100000000000000

are 'friends' electricsound? (electricsound), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Unfortunately, but the damage has already been done.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think it should be retracted. If people are interested in one being manufactured and sold anyway, then a poll should be made of what threads to include and anyone involved should be contacted and asked for permission.

Additionally, if this scheme was to continue I would like the ability to be able to delete/edit/redact my own posts.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Since Momus has just dubbed himself Spielberg on the thread, I guess that makes you George Lucas.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Don't insult the man, Sean!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In the interests of fostering amity before the upcoming ILX peace summit, I would like to retract my previous comment.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sent:

To whom it may concern,

The item on sale from this URL:

http://www.cafeshops.com/go_quick.11716560

is an infringement of various Copyrights held by many members of the ILX forums (/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?). It can be read in our FAQ (/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?faq.php) that each poster on our discussion forum retains Copyright over their own posts. Many such posts have been included in their entirety in the publication offered by CafePress, without the consent of their respective authors. You can view the discussion thread in which several of the posters (myself, the sole operator of ILX, included) take issue with the publication:

Excelsior the book

I ask that this publication be removed from your online catalogue. Should this request be denied, I shall be forced to exercise my legal rights to their full extent.

Sincerely,

Andrew Gerrand

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Haha I already sent them a similar message (only without the "I WILL SUE YOU WITH GUNS" part).

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Why do any of you honestly think someone would have bought the stupid book anyway?

And i think a more prudent point is stinking this whole thing up - Mark G has effectively come in, done a shit and left again, and everyone else is left dealing with the smell.

Did it occur to anyone else he might just have dropped this stinkbomb on purpose?

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 24 June 2004 00:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(to whit: is anyone going to give him a metaphorical slaparound for this? Cos the reactions he's caused is far worse than any silly little chapbook ever would be)

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 24 June 2004 00:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

At least Andrew got his $2000 out of it.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Tom, do you remember when that guy used to post about how terrible we were and he was glad he wasn't posting anymore? And everyone made fun of him for it?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Am I still posting?

TOMBOT, Thursday, 24 June 2004 03:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You Goddamn Motherfucking Whippersnappers!!! Tricked Again!!!

TOMBOT, Thursday, 24 June 2004 03:05 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The *overreaction* to Mark's thread has actually made me want to leave ILX more than anything posted by Calum or JW ever. But, unlike Calum and JW, I know that Mark is ultimately a decent person who will actually *STOP* doing something which is upsetting people, if you merely ask him. Which neither Calum or JW have ever done.

People love Gravity and Evolution! (kate), Thursday, 24 June 2004 07:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Mark has apologised and retracted the book, and I in turn have apologised for my troll suggestion, which was spurious at best, I feel stupid for having said as much.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 24 June 2004 09:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I can't believe J0hn left over something so silly. I'm sorry, but it was obviously not a malicious act, and as such, asking politely for the book to be removed would have sufficed. I can't believe so many ILXer are such babies about this kind of shit.

Think Rationally (King Kobra), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 22:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

isn't this language revealing?

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 09:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


You Goddamn Motherfucking Whippersnappers!!! Tricked Again!!!

-- TOMBOT (postin...), June 24th, 2004.

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 09:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

No not that, er. Nevermind

Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 09:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hello Andrew,

Could you confirm that we have removed the images in question in accordance
with your letter? If not, please let us know what we may do to assist in
this matter so that we may expediately.

Thank you and we apologized for any inconvenience you may have had.

Sincerely,

Nancy
Intellectual Property Rights Assistant
CafePress.com

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 1 July 2004 00:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


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