stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

last night it kept asking me to login and I've had 5 of so posts that didn't post, just returned a blank page. something seems wrong, but it also feels like it'd be impossible to debug.

happens to me too sometimes (maybe once a week?)

stet/keith or whoever is in charge of code these days,

*third guy to get handed the mic at the Q&A*

hello, a comment and a question.

first of all, as always, thank you so much, and with every year that passes i appreciate more and more what a special place ilx is and how much of that is related the beautiful simplicity of how it works. i don't know anything about any of that but i feel the benefits of your work all the same. thank you!

the question: as you're probably already aware, chatgpt is starting to crawl the internet:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/openai-details-how-to-keep-chatgpt-from-gobbling-up-website-data/

Without announcement, OpenAI recently added details about its web crawler, GPTBot, to its online documentation site. GPTBot is the name of the user agent that the company uses to retrieve webpages to train the AI models behind ChatGPT, such as GPT-4. Earlier this week, some sites quickly announced their intention to block GPTBot's access to their content.

In the new documentation, OpenAI says that webpages crawled with GPTBot "may potentially be used to improve future models," and that allowing GPTBot to access your site "can help AI models become more accurate and improve their general capabilities and safety."

i was wondering if ilx will move to block GPTBot as well. for what it's worth, i register as a hard "please block GPTBot" vote

...because god, it's going to be creepy if chatgpt users can really ask it to compose stuff in the voice of a particular poster

well i already do that all the time so

After I'd been posting to ilx for about 13 years my voice changed.

Won’t be long before there’s going to be some kind of Night of the Living Dead of Fake Tuomases, Fake James Redds, Fake Tracer Hands etc.

Night of the Living Redd

fake luna

Lol

Impersonate another Chatbot!

ILX is already in ChatGPT - there was a site which showed you which percentage of the training data you were, and we were high among the also-rans.

Block does seem like a good idea for all our vital future posts tho

excited to encounter the deepest of our lore out in the wild

ILX had a number of prolific posters who contributed to its active community. Some of the notable and influential posters over the years included individuals like Sterling Clover, Andy K, Nick Sylvester, and Mark Sinker. These posters were known for their extensive contributions, insightful discussions, and sometimes controversial opinions, which helped shape the character of ILX as a unique online forum for music and various other topics. However, keep in mind that individual participation can change over time, and my information might not be up to date with the latest developments on ILX.

no, that pretty much covers it up til now!

Your mileage may vary.

ChatGPT, tell me all you know about the chickenbear.

chatGPT, please read all my previous posts and suggest new posts i could make that would be an improvement

...but do it in the style of the chickenbear

gaz coombes

Bosko Balaban

Write about grocery groin to the tune of Ernie K Doe's "Mother in Law"

This isn't so much a question as it is an expression of puzzlement but...I just posted via Zing a short while ago and the DN displayed on my post is an older DN that is not the DN I'm currently using. Should that be happening? And might the fact of it happening have anything to do with the fact that my iPhone is old as shit (it's a 6)? I guess those last two actually were questions.

It shouldn't be happening – there's a weird situation in the code where it can keep two copies of a user around. You end up with two different sets of bookmarks and sometimes two DNs etc. I've never been able to really track the cause of it down, it's (probably) not your fault tho

I’ve just got my first iPhone and the Bookmark Post links JavaScript does not work and instead go to a form to submit instead. Is that expected?

download Zing Touch from the app store!

Can’t view it in my theme though :D

Speaking of which I am seeing a load of rendering bugs on the iPhone I need to fix.

Is that expected?

Feel free to send me updates to the stylesheet!

One day! Been meaning to do it for a couple of years for general bugs.

Any idea on the bookmark bug though?

not a bug - deliberate behaviour: there's a non-Javascript flow, which mobile devices use because they were buggy back in the day. You can see it on desktop if you disable JS in site settings

It’s always worked on Android browsers though 🤷

Yeah, I have a vague recollection of just stopping it doing the Javascript thing on mobile at all; however, that would've been just after the first iPhone launched, so when you say it's always worked on Android, well, it's kind of always not worked on Android, as when I wrote that bit of code, Android didn't exist, so it seems whatever mechanism I used to filter it out didn't work once Android appeared.

FWIW, I was definitely using Android to read ilx every day for like two years before Android officially existed and it worked fine so thanks!

I’m happy to take a look and suggest code to get the experience on iPhone up to par :)

We need an “ILX is better in the app” popup apparently they’re all the rage

Ah yes, sorry, I had forgotten about the shareholder value :)

would you consider embedding bsky.app links like twitter/x.com links?

arguably twitter embeds have made this site worse, but since we can't unring that bell it would be cool to be able to link to the non-nazi alternative

https://bsky.social/about/blog/post-embeds-guide

yes! have been meaning to see if this was possible for a while. Thanks!

thanks!

I seem to have made the text very small when viewing on Chrome browser on laptop.

Any idea what I've done as it only affects ILX and I can't see anything obvious in Site Preferences?

Ta

try hitting Cmd-zero if you're on a Mac (Ctrl-0 on Windows)

have you just zoomed out? ctrl-0 should restore to the default

(in firefox there's a '65%' thing in the url bar to tell you you've zoomed out)

xp

Random question:

If we wanted to, could we tag the ilxor.com domains to our Bluesky accounts?

no idea what bluesky looks like or how posts etc there work but if we could all just agree now not to render links from there like we do with twitter it would imo be good

twitter dumping killer ilx (not really but a bit)

would be nice if the twitter embeds could work via nitter.poast or xcancel or sutin.

why? the thing I like about the current setup is the post text remains even if the post is deleted on X

and yes I was looking at allowing Bluesky username auth for here

embeds too, sorry

the thing I like about the current setup is the post text remains even if the post is deleted on X

― stet, Saturday, November 16, 2024 3:40 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm very nice implementation