stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

Oh yes, nuked. I'll see if I can rehabilitate it if you use it a lot.

― stet, Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:41 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, I probably won't. Google are punishing us for not having a mobile-friendly main site, so fixing that is probably the best solution of all

― stet, Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:42 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fair enough. I've been using it since 2009 or something though, but I've never seen any indication that other people access the site in this way. It's also been my secret fix to view images when logged in as a mod on my pc though.

Lol. Of 18 posts mentioning Mobile Device Interface since keith rolled it out in 2008, 13 of them were by me.

also i just noticed: i have images off; this used to mean youtube embeds were also turned into links, but this no longer seems to be the case

― esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I messed up the filter for those; will fix that but not tonight

― stet, Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:42 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just noticed this, glad it's on the radar

should be fixed, let me know if not

is it just me or are the open circles not working anymore?

wait nvm maybe they're there

They'll have been reset with lsat night's deploy, that might have confused things

ah yes thanks

Please remind what open circle means again

the bullet point next to thread titles is "open" if there are new answers since you read the thread last

is search slow/malfunctioning sometimes for anyone else

I can't get bookmark to work on the latest presidential election thread. May or may not be a bad thing.

What happens when you try?

Search: aha! Were you running a search just about the time you posted that? I got some alarms firing on the server at that time; need to check that out more.

I see Message Bookmarked, but the thread doesn't apear in my bookmarks list or at the top of the page when it has new messages. Bookmarks on other threads work fine.

I got some alarms firing on the server at that time; need to check that out more.

Imagining you in a bunker with red flashing bulbs.

is search slow/malfunctioning sometimes for anyone else

Yes, but only certain searches. I think post searches have been markedly quicker than thread searches (which sometimes take like a full minute to run).

What happens when you try?

Search: aha! Were you running a search just about the time you posted that? I got some alarms firing on the server at that time; need to check that out more.

― stet, Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:44 AM (five hours ago)

i was! it's been going on since the reboot, though. as old lunch says, the search seems to have a mind of its own about when it will work and when it won't

Can you remember exactly what you were searching for? Email me if you like - stet @ ilxor

Odd - thread searches should be markedly quicker than post searches!

If it's a problem, we might need to just rebuild the search index from scratch.

i get slow searches sometimes too

i mentioned it to stet the first time

it happens every so often but i'll post when it does

Can you remember exactly what you were searching for? Email me if you like - stet @ ilxor

― stet, Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:21 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i was searching for the 2015 end of year tracks poll. I think I searched "ilm 2015", "ilm 2015 tracks", "ilm tracks" etc and selected "most recent first" -- each time the search would come up but as I clicked through and approached the matching threads from january clicking "next" wouldn't work. for some of the searches this was on the third page, for another it was the fourth, another the second...it was bizarre, almost like the search knew what thread I wanted to find and didn't want me to see it

I keep searching for "; drop table users;" and it doesn't work!!

ha

sorry, I really tried not to type that

it was quicker than trying to roll together a joke about apache commons problems with deserialization

Haha (injection thing).

(Yes, they're not going to work)

It's possible that what's happening is a function of how it works and housekeeping...

The way it works is that I run a big job at the beginning that scans all the threads and posts and creates two index files for the search: one for threads, one for posts. The threads one is miles smaller; hence, why it should be faster. With hindsight, I wouldn't even have bothered with the threads one, as subsequent to developing the search, I decided it was useful to just hold the whole list of threads in memory at all times anyway for fast access.

Anyway, that's cool for startup, but the way it keeps the index up-to-date with changes since the initial build is that a batch job runs every five minutes, scans the database for new or changes to threads and posts and updates the index.

I'd have thought that ultimately, this would fragment the index file and make it slow and I for one certainly haven't recreated the index file for at least five years, which would be half a million updates to the index files at least! So guessing somewhat here, but if Stet hasn't recreated the index file since I last did, which I might doubt, as I don't think we ever talked about what that thing did before, then it's possible that's what's going on and all we need to do is stop the site, recreate the index file and start it again.

It's actually an all-new index file as of a couple of weeks ago, so I'm wondering if something went iffy there. No harm in making a new one, will kick that off later.

> 19:17 (fifty-six minutes ago)

It is 21:11 here now. Why is that saying 56 minutes?

>

> 20:14 (three minutes ago)

Slightly better

Although it's 21:18 here, not 20:18

Someone else doing a big search

The index file could potentially be screwed if it were created when the site was running when that happened. I mean, I don't know whether it would or not, but I've never thought through whether it would cause issues. Certainly the initial job reads big fuckoff lumps of the database at a time and indexes that then moves on to the next; the database changing under its feet could render some of the already-created index incorrect, although it'd be up to Apache Lucene whether or not that cause the whole thing problems or not.

Am I right in saying this was all TEN YEARS AGO now?

is it just me or is the spacing all screwed up on the search page, like the css isn't loading right or something

Am I right in saying this was all TEN YEARS AGO now?

― Keith, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 22:32 Bookmark

no the right way to say it is 10 years ago now

Well clearly ten years on this place hasn't changed.

I just bought a new Android tab, and now I'm seeing banner ads on ILX even I log in with Chrome. The tablet has Android 6.0, I didn't seen any ads while using Chrome on my older tablet, which had an older version of Android.

"even I after log in"

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20161007-192926_zpsce6zozqq.png

Here's an example, I'm logged in, but I still see the as.

not sure why, but half of the things I search for cause ILX to hang.

for instance, I searched for Lost Boys, and it comes up no problem.

I search for any variant of "let's shit our pants to something new", even without the word 'shit', and none of them work, except "Let's shit", and doesn't return that thread at all. I tried "our pants", "something new", "shit our pants", and it just hung for minutes at a time.

Don't know if it's related, but threads have been taking a long time to load the last couple of days.

help! the site is doing that thing where every last bookmark I've ever had is showing up at the top of SNA and I can't make them go away. I tried changing the Use Traditional Bookmarks setting, but it didn't do anything. How do I fix this? What am I doing to cause this?

hmmm, well I think I fixed this for now. I changed the Google account in my Chrome browser and that seemed to help, not sure why.

the search function is still super buggy and slow fyi

my versh of zing suddenly won't load any URLs, unless I jump out to safari. i.e. won't display em on zing. is it just me?

Even though I'm logged in, I still see a banner ad on this thread:

Metallica ARE...Hardwired…To Self-Destruct

It doesn't matter much to me, but it's strange that's the only thread (so far) where that happens.

FYI

fuckin' lars