Mystery/noir/detective novels S/D

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I'm sure Hammett/Chandler don't even have to be mentioned. But what about the likes of Loren D. Estleman (Whiskey River) and Philip Kerr (March Violets, The Pale Criminal, A German Requiem)?

recommendations/advice here!

gear (gear), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I know he is a considered by some to be a little genteel compared to Hammett and Chandler, but I like Ross MacDonald, particularly The Chill. What about Jim Thompson?? Search A Hell Of A Woman, A Swell Looking Babe, Pop. 1280, Cropper's Cabin and many others. I think we had a thread about him on ILE.

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess the first 'd' in Macdonald is lower case.

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's that thread Jim Thompson: C/D S+D

It mentions Charles Willeford too, who I also recommend, especially Sideswipe.

k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I have read and liked:

Mark Billingham
Cara Black
Deborah Crombie
Sue Grafton (although the Kinsey Millhone books are a little bit like the Sweet Valley High of mysteries, black dress = gold lavaliere)
Reginald Hill
Faye Kellerman
Laurie King
Peter Lovesy
Gillian Linscott
Val McDermid
Barry Maitland
Denise Mina
Ian Rankin
Kathy Reichs
Victoria Thompson

none of these are really noir though

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't really like the new crime show based on the Reichs books.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot:

Paul Charles
Liz Evans

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

oops, Lovesey, I meant

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 18 September 2005 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link

GEORGE PELECANOS is my favorite contemporary. Unforgettable characters major and minor, unique perspective on the human cost of violent crime as well as race relations in Wash DC. And he uses pop music references better than anyone else I've read.

Start with King Suckerman.

DENNIS LEHANE is a little more pulpy and cinematic but very good. The way he uses South Boston and environs is similar to the way that Pelecanos evokes the local color of Washington DC. One thing about Lehane: his novels are (mostly) similar to fault. I have a hardtime distinguishing one from the other, though Mystic River is a standout (and also the first one I read).

I've read 3 or 4 novels by MICHAEL CONNELLY this summer. He's a little more conventional, the books are very plot-driven and thoroughly researched. The Harry Bosch books qualify as police procedurals I suppose, entertaining and informative but not especially "literary" in terms of prose style or larger ambition.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 18 September 2005 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I also like Chester Himes, the guy who wrote Cotton Comes To Harlem, featuring Coffin Ed and Grave Digger Jones, although I haven't read too many of his books. His two volume autobiography is really good.

k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 18 September 2005 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Willeford is very enjoyable. I just returned to the library a collection of his short fiction and nonfiction that I recommend but whose title I forget. I haven't read as much of his early-period writing as I'd like to, but I've read as much as I can find.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 19 September 2005 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Walter Mosley writes in a relatively noirish vein and I have found his Easy Rawlins series novels quite entertaining.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 September 2005 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Robert B Parker is still my first love. I like Walter Mosley and Sarah Paretsky too.

On the British side: I'm not sure that Colin Dexter or Agatha Christie count (certainly don't qualify as noir), but they're good.

Archel (Archel), Monday, 19 September 2005 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I just read a Walter Mosley book (Six Easy Pieces) for the first time in years and I counted seven instances when Easy Rawlins sets up a meeting with a contact, then arrives at the meeting place to find the contact dead. Plus I think one or two when the contact's just been horribly beaten but survives long enough to convey crucial information. Mosley isn't a hackish writer in particular, I thought, so that laziness or whatever it was stood out.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a theme.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 19 September 2005 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

It's the human condition.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 19 September 2005 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

It always happens to me too.

Paul Eater (eater), Monday, 19 September 2005 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

So, hey! What's up with all these beat downs on my contacts, huh? How weird is that?

I mean, here I'm trying to solve a murder, right? And all I need is a little information to clear things up, right? So, I go track down some guy who says that some other guy has the information I need. Are you with me so far?

OK. So I'm all "Swell! I'll just go meet up with this guy" - OK? But when I get there he's always face down in a pool of blood with massive head injuries and some extra ventilation holes in his lungs. And I don't mean just once or twice this happens. I mean six different times.

So, I'm like - whoa! Six times!! And I'm thinking, maybe there's more to this than coincidence. You know what I mean?

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 September 2005 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

The Parker series seems to have gone downhill over the last few years

Steven Groth (fitch12), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmmn, who'd be the female equivalent of noir (not noir) stuff like david peace's 1984, lethem's motherless brooklyn, or chad taylor's electric (or even auster's city of glass)?

etc, Monday, 19 September 2005 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

For me, the two great noir novels (novellas? They're about 120 pages apiece) are "The Postman Always Rings Twice" and "Double Indemnity" by J. M Cain. They spawned great films, but the books themselves are something again (like Chandler's novels, they are virtually "literature"). Cain is a breathtaking stylist.

All Bunged Up (Jake Proudlock), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

James Ellroy is meant to be good - "LA Confidential" etc neo-noir.

salexander, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Recently, Lawrence Block's Scudder novels.

Cain is magnificent (The butterfly is my fave). Jim Thompson is the best. Early Willeford rocks as well (not the Hoak Mosely books) -Cockfighter, Burnt Orange Heresy.

I've read every Ross Macdonald (they're all kind of the same -something happened ten or twenty years ago and has been festering in the SoCal sun).

Also not really noir but cynically unique are Dick James (English) Harpur & Ives series.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, Cockfighter and Burnt Orange Heresy (which is about art!) are both great. Pickup is an interesting book with a strange gimmick that works, I think.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I spaced Pickup (sort of about art) -that gimmick got me. I tried to re-read it, but it didn't really work.

By the third Ellroy book I began feeling oppressed by the relentless know-it-allism of his cynicism, kind of like with Vachss no-limit paranoia. The first few I read by them blew me away, but after that it was diminishing returns. John D MacDonald has a similar world-weary, self-pity riff he likes to get into whenever the story slows down (to me he's kind of a cheap Mailer).

I'm almost embarassed to admit I read Parker, but I don't own a TV and it's the closest I can get to that.

I read Dick Francis too (I like horses and frosty mornings on the downs) His glorifaction of average-guy competence always cheers me up for some reason. Like Parker, he's a TV substitute. I like Sue Grafton because she's very non-judgmental about the characters she deals with. She observes without condemning.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Georges Simenon! I think he has Cain-like properties. A lot of variation for one so prolific.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

has anyone else read those three Kerr novels I mentioned? they're pretty fantastic.

gear (gear), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Will Christopher Baer, "Kiss Me, Judas" -- the best of the new noir, hands down. Dark, halluncinogenic and poetic, the novel is a completely original take on the urban myth of waking up to find your kidney has been stolen, surgically removed while you were knocked out. "Penny Dreadful" and "Hell's Half Acre" complete the trilogy, though you don't need to read them all or in any particular order. Highly recommened for those readers brave enough to take that mysterious left-turn off the old noir highway.

Roger Sarao, Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't think Baer was all that- too much of a film treatment for me (but they still quoted my review on the back cover). I didn't know there were sequels.

Kerr's Berlin Noir trilogy is excellent, though the last volume set in post-war Vienna might as well have been called 'The Fourth Man'.

I like Charlie Williams' 'yokel noir' novels- they're what you'd imagine Magnus Mills would come up with if he wrote crime fiction.

snotty moore, Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I read one Kerr that started well but ran out of gas in the middle - A Philosophical Investigation.

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I got bogged down in Kerr too, but I spoze I wasn't into thinking about German Nazis at the time -we have enough of them here in the US now. Maybe when my paranoia recedes.

I'd forgotten Charles Williams. Yeah, 'yokel noir' (as is Cain's Butterfly).

steve ketchup, Friday, 23 September 2005 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I would like to get a hold of this book.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Lawrence Block's "The Burgler Who" series, and oh yes, Dorothy Sayers' Lord Peter Whimsey books.

mr. jaggers (Mr. Jaggers), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Mr. Jaggers, are you Francis Sullivan?

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I am not. But he sounds like a man with good taste.

Mister Jaggers (Mr. Jaggers), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

LP Whimsey, yes! I took a Sayers class in college but remember very little outside the books themselves. Also search Ngaio Marsh and P.D. James.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

The problem with Parker is that Spencer must be about 107 by now.
I like DLS but I have read them too much.
I also have a fondness for Inspector Rebus, whoever wrote those - they are pretty noir for detective stories. And Lauren Henderson. Also the Australian Kerry Greenwood for the series set in the twenties - I don't like the contemporary ones so much.

isadora (isadora), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Hard to buy into the 107-year old tough guy and the 107-year old hottie. Hawk's minstrel act bugs me too (funny by Cleavon Little in Blazing Saddles back in '74). These charcters have been worn very thin by the lack of any added depth over the years. It might have been good if they'd had to face a genuine challenge (like younger, tougher guys -a la Clint in Unforgiven- maybe prostate examinations, or even constipation issues from all those donuts) just to show that they could adapt. The Jesse Stone books are better than the recent Spencers. Parker can write page-turners as well as anyone (low demand on attention), sort of like Rex Stout or Erle Stanley Gardner in days gone by.

Early Mickey Sillane had stupid stories featuring stupid characters but great mono-syllabic style (i.e., "deck of butts" for package of cigarettes -lots of hard consonnants). Hard to read or care about through the stupidity though.

Not-at-all-noir: Arthur Upfield's Inspector Napoleon Bonaparte series (Australia) and Tony (page-turner) Hillerman's Chee/Leaphorn series (New Mexico) have great tracking, etc. (I live in the desert). Nevada Barr not as good but environmentally / ecologically conscious and outdoorsy.

I loved the Lord Peter series when I read them years ago. I've probably forgotten well enough to recycle them. And Josephine Tey's Daughter of Time.

steve ketchup, Saturday, 15 October 2005 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I'd completely forgotten the Daughter of Time but I loved it. Was that a once off or are there others?

isadora (isadora), Monday, 17 October 2005 00:48 (fifteen years ago) link

There are other Josephine Tey's featuring the injured inspector from DOT. I read a few of them but I don't remember them that well. Singing Sands was my fave of those. As I recall her narrative writing wasn't as compelling as the man stuck in bed.

steve ketchup, Monday, 17 October 2005 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, I just think the Spenser books are so funny. They wouldn't be half as compelling without Susan though, and of late things have maybe got a bit complacent...

Someone just gave me a few Marcia Muller books - anyone know of they're any good?

Archel (Archel), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I never thought the Spenser series recovered its original power after the ridiculous episode where S and Hawk fight an army of Nazi's in suburban mass to rescue Susan from her new boyfriend. The first 7 or so in the series were moralistic (in a good way), tight, and austere (as well as funny), worthy of comparison to Chandler and maybe better than Dashiel Hammet. After that they slipped into comicbookland (this was when the TV show came out and Parker got VERY rich). I still read them and find them entertaining, but I know there isn't much there anymore.

I began re-reading Ross MacDonald (The Zebra-Striped Hearse) and realized he's more literate than I'd remembered. Funnier than Chandler, deeper than Parker, not as epic (i.e., self-absorbed) as either of them, but far slyer. The 60's ambience seems historical more than dated.

steve ketchup, Thursday, 27 October 2005 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The Deadly Percheron by John Franklin Bardin is a Noir fan's must read. Drug addled and unreconstructed, Chandler thought he was a genius. It's a little dated but .... the strangeness.

joe solution, Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I've read a couple of other Bardin's as well - The Last Testament of Phillip Banter and another one whose title escapes me - just looked it up on Google and it's Devil Take The Blue-Tail Fly. They are both excellent as well. Weird surreal fifties stuff where you're never entirely sure if everyone's insane or not. Sort of reminds me of the Hitchcock films Vertigo or Spellbound.

jz, Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not your typical detective story, but i loved auster's city of glass

archipelago (archipelago), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been re-reading Ross Madonald over the last several weeks and he's better than I'd remembered (particularly as he switched from fistfights to psychological insights in the late 50's-early 60's). I spoze reading them as an adult instead of a 20-nothing has contributed to this as I'm less moved by sensationalism and more intrigued by subtleties. He, or his protagonist, doesn't have the cynicism I think of as truly noir (Cain, Thompson, Willeford), but the world in which he operates does. His ethical conclusions are the most rigorous I've come across in this genre, he never seems to settle for knee-jerks. Archer is the most complex (not trying very hard to be likeable or sympathetic all the time a la Marlowe, Spenser, etc) "good guy" I've come across in a series, not from having a set of hang-ups or predicaments, but from being passively alienated by the world he moves through. The cases grind forward mechanically and his semi-detatched personality observes and witnesses them more than it drives them -almost like he's creating a cult of ambivalent non-personality. He must have loved Flaubert.

steve ketchup, Saturday, 19 November 2005 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Great to see all the love for Ross Macdonald here. I'd never even heard of him until a couple of years ago, when he was the only thing I could find after re-reading all my Chandler.

What I can't understand is why he's out of print in the US.

Tey's Daughter of Time is on my list of top ten books of all time.

Has anyone read any Minette Walters? Those BBC adaptations were all quite good - I wonder if the books are as well.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Ross MacDonald isn't out of print, he has a bunch of novels out on Black Lizard/Vintage Crime, I ordered a couple a few days ago from Amazon.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 8 June 2006 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link

After reading all of Ross MacDonald (between the library and Amazon it wasn't hard to find them), I read a biography of him (Tom Nolan). Interesting man. It would be great if he had a vogue and somebody made some movies, but I don't think he's sensational enough.

Chandler was scared of him and tried to nip his career in the bud.

steve ketchup (steve ketchup), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Check out Out by Natsuo Kirino.

Creepy, interesting, and intelligent. Basically, what happens once a normal person commits a crime.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Ron Rosenbaum's rave makes me want to pick up Kerr right away.

Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 28 October 2006 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
anyone tried patricia carlon? The Unquiet Night i recommend highly

surmounter (rra123), Monday, 22 January 2007 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

noveau noir:
Search: Ken Bruen, particular his Irish books featuring Jack Taylor, starting with The Guards, where the shamus usually ends up hurting more than helping.

Search: Jason Starr, anything you can find. He's great at describing the mechanics of being an everyday, non-Woody Allen, possibly outerborough New Yorker, he's got a great deadpan sense of humor and he really knows how to tell a story and keep you guessing, as on the one hand he lets his protagonists slowly but surely sink deeper and deeper into trouble, and on the other hand he provides a possible avenue of escape for them.

To start, you could read their Hard Case collabo, Bust, which apparently has a sequel coming out sometime this year.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 26 January 2007 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

And Jason Starr is great with endings too, as I was reminded of when I just finishd Cold Caller.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Even though I hated A Firing Offense when I read it years ago, I recently decided to give Pelecanos another try and bought a copy of Soul Circus. If I don't like it, I'm coming after you lovebug. (You too, frankiemachine)

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Friday, 26 January 2007 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow. Is there seriously no mention of Elmore Leonard in this thread? Too obvious? Perhaps his reputation was damaged by later work and bad movie adaptations--check out City Primieval & Glitz.

ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

OK, for 2008 I've discovered Larry Block.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 6 January 2008 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Wait, apparently this isn't the thread where I asked for a Simenon recommendation. Just one that would be short and fun to read for someone who isn't particularly into the genre. Someone suggested that it would make a good book to read in French, and they look promising, but there are so many to choose from.

Casuistry, Sunday, 6 January 2008 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

'The Little Man from Archangel' or 'Striptease' or 'Red Lights' or 'Tropic Moon' or 'Strangers in the House' are all short, good and self-contained Simenons.

James Morrison, Monday, 7 January 2008 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

A million years ago I read Maigret et le tueur and I told a friend and he said "Maigret est le tueur? Not much mystery to that, is ther? They gave it away in that title!"

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

I have been investigating Larry Block's various characters and I know everybody likes Scudder and I like Scudder too, but so far my favorite character is Keller, the hit man.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

It would have been really awesome if Maigret had turned out to be le tueur the whole time.

I was trying to talk my friend into doing a ready-for-youtube sock puppet murder mystery show, where a sock puppet would investigate the murders of other sock puppets, Murder She Wrote style, except every one would eventually turn out to have been a suicide. I think this idea, if done correctly, could be awesome. ©2008 Casuistry.

Casuistry, Monday, 7 January 2008 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

She never murder

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:07 (twelve years ago) link

Try it again:
You never murder

James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 7 January 2008 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

I love Lawrence Block.
Since Thanksgiving of last year I've read all the Keller novels, most of the Scudder's (still working), a couple Bernie Rhodenbarr books and most of the hard case crime reprints (the best of those imo: 'the girl with the long green heart' and 'lucky at cards.')

I love Keller's descent in stamp collecting. Keller (or Block, or both) has some really useful insights into the nature of collecting -- i've been working up something in my mind about this for months now. The ability of a hobby or collection to immerse a person and remove him from his daily life, the irrationality of paying large sums of of money for essentially 'worthless' pieces of paper. It's all very interesting to me.

I don't know if I have a favorite Matt Scudder book, as I haven't finished them all yet. The first one I read was "When The Sacred Ginmill Closes" which still stands out as a favorite; since that I went back and have been reading them in order. I am in the middle of "A Dance At The Slaughterhouse" right now. The same mechanics are at play in a lot of these stories, but the way Block writes about New York and about Scudder's internal life keep them from feeling repetitive.

There is a lot of talk in this thread about the Spenser books by Robert B Parker -- they're pretty light overall. I rather enjoyed the first few I read ("The Godwulf Manuscript", "Mortal Stakes" especially) but ultimately the series didn't grip me. I didn't read them in order, but I did try to read the earlier ones when I could find them, because the conventional wisdom is that the series went down hill. I'm inclined to agree a bit -- extended scenes of Spenser and Susan mulling over their relationship and its trials are not so trilling to me. Or scenes they they play with their dog. The earlier stories really work because of the action and quick pacing; when that took a back seat to the personal life of Chef Spenser... well..

My FAVE FAVE FAVE mystery novelist is Donald Westlake. We have a thread on him though. But suffice to say his Parker books are far and away the best books about a professional criminal that I've read -- I even rate them above Block's Keller series; where Keller is easy for a reader to like, there is just nothing in Parker's personality for the reader to grab onto and empathize with. This probably turns some people on, but I think it's great. Other fave Westlake novels are probably "The Ax" and "The Hook." They are both very very dark. Of his lighter, more comic work I think the best ones are "The Fugitive Pigeon" and "Somebody Owes Me Money" which are about poor schmucks who find themselves in bad situations. "The Hot Rock" is a classic, but I haven't read any of his other Dortmunder novels yet. I still have a ton of his standalone novels to read too, just tons of them....

I am getting into Ross Thomas currently. I just read one of his books, written under the name Oliver Bleeck. I liked it and I definitely have room in my diet for more political thrillers/espionage style tales. Anyone have any favorites?

Charles Williams was mentioned upthread and my favorite of his is "A Touch of Death" which Hard Case Crime reprinted. I know "The Hot Spot" is considered by many to be the classic, and it's good and hooks you fast, but it's got a fairly conventional 'working stiff gets into trouble cuz of a broad' storyline.

Jim Thompson: still have a lot to read, but my faves are probably "The Getaway", "Savage Night" and "The Grifters." Also really liked "Pop. 1280" once I got into it.

I need to read more Simenon, but my favorite of the few I have read is "Dirty Snow." Just an amazing books. Helen only likes his Maigret novels, and we have a ton of those around and I've read a few but it gets to be just too overwhelming.. so many books sitting around that I need to read.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:28 (seven years ago) link

i tend to buy bulk lots of books on ebay tbh, so stuff piles up very quickly. when i decided i wanted to read ross macdonald i just bought the whole lew archer series cheap in one go. (unfortunately i found out i didn't love macdonald as much as some other people. i only read four or five of them. i'll go back to him eventually..) likewise I have Block, Westlake, McBain, Thompson, Simenon etc just lying around taking up space waiting to be read. I kinda like it. But it's a lot of pressure...

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 18 June 2013 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Do you like Harry Whittington? If you like Jim Thompson, I think you'll like Whittington. The Black Lizard books are good and cheap, although you should avoid Ticket to Hell, which is about a guy driving around the desert in a Porsch, being a hero.

If you haven't, you should read Joel Townsely Rogers' The Red Right Hand! Creepy backwoods stuff, good on atmosphere. Kind of like reading Shirley Jackson with a locked room plot sewn in.

And P.M. Hubbard! He's great!

bamcquern, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 00:01 (seven years ago) link

And Elizabeth Sanxay Holding is good. She's basically the grandma of psychological suspense.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 00:04 (seven years ago) link

thanks for all of these recommendations br*ce!!! whittington is intriguing, as he;s someone i've heard mentioned here and there but i have not read. quick google suggests he wrote over 150 novels and at one point averaging 7 per year! that's a lot of writing.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 00:09 (seven years ago) link

also tbh driving around the desert in a porsche being a hero sounds cool.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 00:11 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Anyone want to recommend me some good short fiction from this genre?

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:10 (two years ago) link

(like, specific stories, I mean. things from non-mystery writers incorporating elements of the detective/crime genre into a particular piece of short fiction welcome as well.)

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:11 (two years ago) link

My first Richard Price, Lush Life! Gotta read Clockers and prob all his.
Some good stuff here:
Crime Fiction, S/D

dow, Friday, 2 February 2018 23:40 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Tana French has a new book out today, The Searcher. Every time she publishes something I rush to read it on the first day, get all the way through it, think, "Hmm, not sure if I liked that," and then immediately start looking forward to her next book.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 03:04 (three weeks ago) link


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