Lorrie Moore

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Instigating this thread is my bewilderment over her latest New Yorker short story, "The Juniper Tree." Is it really a ghost story? I am confused. Any parsing would be appreciated.

Here might as well be the place we sing her general praises. So from the early stories, to her editing the 2004 Best of short story collection (has anyone read the introductory essay?), share what need be.

anonymous poster, Thursday, 13 January 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I've read and enjoyed Self-Help, Anagrams, and probably parts of Birds of America. Her sparest and cheekiest stories are probably the ones that stick in my mind best, like "How to Be an Other Woman."

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 13 January 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I will keep an eye out for that issue of the New Yorker. We talked about her a while ago, over here: Lorrie Moore

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh how sweet - it is online here: http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/content/

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Well it's a dream sequence - or, rather, a kind of woozy wish sequence - of one final meeting with her dead friend, isn't it?

I had to go and listen to 'Love is like a bottle of gin' after reading this story.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 14 January 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know Nipper, it's so deadpan it's hard to tell exactly what it is. Maybe I read it too fast and missed the dream/wish-sequence immersion cue. I didn't notice any outro, either. I certainly haven't read everything she's written, but out of the stuff I have read I can't recall any other supernaturalness.

anonymous poster, Friday, 14 January 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought the Nipper would mean, ilx's discussion is on the New Yorker site.

Once I had reached it, I think I could see a story by Thomas McGuane, rather than one by LM.

I think I have not read anything bad by LM, though the stories I have read from the first book seem worse than the stories in the last book, which I think magnificent, like the two novels that I have read.

the bellefox, Monday, 17 January 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

The Moore story is now here: http://newyorker.com/printable/?fiction/050117fi_fiction

now that there is a new issue out.

I am puzzling over the connection, if any, between this 'Juniper Tree' and The Brothers Grimm's: http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm047.html

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 17 January 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess I must read it, next.

On reflection I think that LM is as fine a contemporary writer as I can think of (odd: it seems impossible not to end that familiar formulation with an awkward preposition). Yet perhaps I should reflect on the word 'fine', which is different from, for instance, 'great'.

the finefox, Monday, 17 January 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

While I am here, I should point out that there is another as-yet uncollected story from last year's New Yorker: http://newyorker.com/printable/?fiction/031222fi_fiction

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 17 January 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

The thing that has always bothered me about Moore is her tendency to stuff her stories full of "lines," little quips that pause the flow for a moment while Moore chuckles and pats herself on the back. That said, "People Like That Are The Only People Here" is one of the best stories I've read in a long time.

David Elinsky (David Elinsky), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you mean, quips by characters, or thought up by self-amusing characters? Because I am not sure that I think she does many 'herself', as 'narrator'. Or does she?

While the criticism may be sound, I think I also admire people who can come up with ... 'lines'.

the bellefox, Monday, 17 January 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I think he probably means one-liners. but i shouldn't speak for him. she is quick with a quip or a pun.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 17 January 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I do mean one-liners, and bellefox, I agree with you that for the most part she enfolds them into a character's narration. But since so many of her characters come up with such similar-sounding quips, it has the effect for me of blurring her protagonists all into one (a more concentratedly witty distillation of Moore's own personality, I imagine). Many of my favorite writers - Roth, Murakami - have nearly identical narrators appear in book after book and story after story, so I'm not sure why it bothers me in Moore's case.

David Elinsky (David Elinsky), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, it doesn't bother me. i'm used to it since i'm already a big fan of anne tyler and alice munro and joy william's short stories (and ann beattie once upon a time) and others whose characters all seem to blend together in my head until they become one big vaguely dissatisfied, bemused, socially awkward, thoughtful, over-sensitive woman who is too smart for the people around her. And I wouldn't have it any other way!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Lorrie Moore to death, but you could easily level a "too cutesy" charge against her. But she's such a great craftsman and her stories are so entertaining and clever that I could forgive a lot more cutesy stuff if I needed to. (but she never goes too far for me. and she is often hilarious.)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Has anyone taken a look yet at "The Juniper Tree"? (hint hint) {it's short}

anonymous poster, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I read it when i got my issue in the mail. it was pretty weird! I just went along with the ghost thing. Maybe she's gonna get wackier now. Her early stuff was more experimental.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I still don't see the ghost thing. It's pretty clearly signalled as a dream sequence isn't it? Just before the section in question, the narrator says:

I went upstairs and with all my cheery clothes on got back into bed. It still smelled a little of the man. I pulled the sheet over my head and lay there, every muscle of my body strung taut. I could not move.

But I must have fallen asleep, and for some time, because when I heard the doorbell downstairs and pulled the sheet off my face it was already dark, though the sun set these days at four, so it was hard ever to know by just looking out the window what time it might possibly be.

"I must have fallen asleep..." I mean, come on! I guess I see it as a consoling fiction she's allowed herself, in much the same way that the woman in 'Anagrams' invents an imaginary daughter.

(The Grimm Bros 'Juniper Tree' also features someone coming back from the dead, in a quite gruesome way, and perhaps that's the best genre in which to place the story - a kind of sardonic fairytale of consolation.)

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"a kind of sardonic fairytale of consolation."

Ooh, I like that, Jerry! Yeah, and the whole visit with the dead friend was a really accurate description of a dream. How her friends all knew what to do, and the police car, and the things that her dead friend was saying to her. It reminded me of dreams I have had. Even though it was a dream though, it was still the ghost of her friend. I mean, they all knew that she was dead. The only ghosts I ever see are in my dreams. I kinda wish she would write a real ghost story. Every great writer should write a couple.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

JtN has just reminded me of how thought-provoking I found Anagrams.

I still have not read this story. I will when I can.

David E, you make your point well - it's true, how the different characters are the same character. Which I (suddenly) suppose Anagrams self-consciously stages?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

bellefox, i must have read "The Juniper Tree" too quickly. thanks much for the fruits of your close reading.

while we're all on about sardonic fairytales, has anyone read her children's book, The Forgotten Helper?

anonymous poster, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, I am embarrassed to admit, after writing in glowing terms about her on Freaky Trigger ages ago (a year or so, I guess) I have not got around to reading anything else by her. I should remedy this. (If someone would like to lend me something other than Anagrams next time we are meeting, I promise an early return in excellent condition. Otherwise it might take me a while...)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Martin, you could read the linked stories. "The Juniper Tree" is a vignette, but "Debarking" is a full-blown and (IMHO) very good short story.

anonymous poster, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Being a sad Lorrie Moore fanboy, I do have 'The Forgotten Helper'. It's slight, but charming - the tale of a WC Fieldsian elf who discovers the real meaning of Xmas.

Skidders - you quite often see Moore things in remaindered bookshops at a 'Nice Price'. I would lend you my copy of 'Birds of America', which you really should read next, but it is a signed first edition which I am reluctant to let out of my sad, sweaty fanboy mitts.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
More Moore in this week's New Yorker: http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fiction/061106fi_fiction

A bit Lorrie-by-numbers, I think.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I read Like Life this month and fell pretty hard in love.

That New Yorker story does seem fairly representative of her stuff, but even when her stories are a bit same-y, she still has the ability to create a specific mood and come up with some lovely lines.

Like Life was the first of hers that I've read. Any suggestions of which to try next? Are her novels as good as her stories?

franny (frannyglass), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I would steer clear of her novels until you've done all the stories. Birds of America is excellent--I think there is only one story in the entire collection that stinks.

That new story has a great first line.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I read most of Self-Help this summer but can't bring myself to finish it, though I know should read "How To Be A Writer" cuz it's really famous and all, but right now she's kind of like that one friend who's always, without fail, no matter what time of day or year, witty and pithy and ironic, and my quip quota, I guess, is filled, for now.

But I have liked other stories of hers I've read. "People Like That..." and "You're Ugly Too." I think I'm suffering from an extended bout of collection fatigue, in her case.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Anagrams, but I guess lots of people don't?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I do!

the pinefox (the pinefox), Saturday, 11 November 2006 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

anyone read the new book yet?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

can't wait!

scott seward, Sunday, 30 August 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link


scott seward, Sunday, 30 August 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

lethem raves today in the nyt book review.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 August 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

want to read this very much.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Sunday, 30 August 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, totally

Mr. Que, Sunday, 30 August 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link


When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 u lorrie

just sayin, Sunday, 30 August 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So has anybody else read this yet? Finished it last night. Really enjoyed it, but had some reservations (the 'Brazilian' character subplot's conclusion seemed especially bizarre).

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Sunday, 13 September 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Nobody? Bugger.

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Monday, 14 September 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

SORRY! i've been busy and haven't been to a bookstore. i do obviously want to read it.

scott seward, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, alright then.

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

english cover is rubbidge


i can't decide if i like her or not anyway

thomp, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to read it but hardbacks are for rubes

cozwn, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 07:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i find english covers are usually worse than american ones - 2666's looked terrible

havent even seen this in the bookshops over here tho

just sayin, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link

book designs in britain have fallen into this horrible standardised waterstones series of looks : /

i didn't mind the 2666 one specifically, it was sort of brute in a way that suited the book: on the other hand i did bother to order in the three-volume edition so er

i am really liking hardbacks lately and replacing some of my old books with them ha

thomp, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

she's coming to town to read sunday, and i'll be away. life = pain

W i l l, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i was going to wait to get this from the library but my work gave me a borders gift card so i just went crazy and got it. not that far into it but enjoying it. having read the story in the new yorker, it's interesting how the short story isn't just an isolated unchanged chapter in the novel but how she expanded the short story, adding a lot of extra details in there, "fattening" it up

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

A friend of mine passed this book on to me saying "see if you hate this as much as I did."

I haven't looked at it yet. I read a few pages of the frog hospital book and it turned me off right away, but I notice that nowhere in all the Lorrie-love above is that book mentioned. Did anyone else have trouble with it? The humor seemed a little try-hardy. I should read other stuff, I guess.

Beth Parker, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Other stuff of hers.

Beth Parker, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

frog hospital is definitely not my favorite thing shes ever done but i was still able to get through it

fleetwood (max), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i was into frog hospital but like max said, it's not her best. re: the humour - it's pretty much like that thru all her books so if you dont like it, she might not be for you

just sayin, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, I really loved 'Frog Hospital', while having reservations about the new one. I suspect the closer to novella length the better.

When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

'a gate at the stairs' was good

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 6 October 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I read most of Self-Help this summer but can't bring myself to finish it, though I know should read "How To Be A Writer" cuz it's really famous and all, but right now she's kind of like that one friend who's always, without fail, no matter what time of day or year, witty and pithy and ironic, and my quip quota, I guess, is filled, for now.

― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:06 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark

^^ I've only read the abovementioned piece but can already see how this will hold true in the future. atm I don't have this kind of friend in my life, so I'll happily source a copy of birds of america.

noted schloar (dyao), Sunday, 7 March 2010 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link

She is (now) one of my top fav writers, fwiw. I can, and do, still OD on her, like it'll be a while bc I read the new novel in Jan, but that's ok.

W i l l, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

finally read a gate at the stairs. did not like it :(

felt bad about not liking it. but i am only human and so is lorrie.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the yuppie-couple-with-dark-secret thing Did Not Work For Me

you're either part of the problem or part of the solution (m coleman), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

most of the book felt like a bad tv drama i think

Lamp, Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

none of it added up for me. seemed too patchwork or something. (or like a short story writer trying to stitch 3 or 4 stories into a novel) the 9/11 stuff too...didn't work. for me. and only one big laugh! certainly a new low from a writer who has made me laugh several times in the course of one 5 page story. (the line about her father getting less respect than the ginseng farmers, that was it. the only chuckle i got in the whole book.) and the couple...i mean, i guess they were supposed to be really unlikeable? but still, nothing to hold on to. didn't care about their baby situation at all. and even the voice of our hero seemed...sketchy. who was she really? didn't get a good sense. i guess the farm/family stuff worked the best. wouldn't have minded a long novella about college girl going back home to her weird rural family.

scott seward, Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I still don't get why she included the boyfriend subplot--so wildly misjudged

two months pass...

this was disappointing... i mean, i liked the story at its core but i found the language really wishy washy and the characters unbelievable. and the narrator - i just didn't find her well-constructed at all.

just1n3, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link

seems like most ppl dont like it here :( i still havent picked it up

just sayin, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 08:29 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Just finished the book. Tend to agree with the criticisms.

She can still write beautifully, better than anyone in a way. Though the beautiful writing can also seem random and weightless.

The basic milieu here - Mid-Western college girl's life in early 2000s - seems deeply appealing to me.

But the book is a strange mess:
1. the Thornwood-Brinks are odd characters - maybe this is a literary feat, neo Gothic as Stevie T said, but the oddness seems to unbalance things, and they don't exactly get wrapped up or properly explained at all; after the baby is taken away they virtually vanish.

2. the Brazilian / Afghan / Muslim / whatever bf - what a strange folly. The scene where Tassie finds him in his apartment on his laptop preparing to join a jihadist cell in London is one of the maddest things that LM has ever written. It makes me wonder, this book, whether LM has always been writing mad stuff, and it just shows up more here ... maybe cos of the book's rare length? Interested in others' thoughts on that.

3. the musical element, Tassie and Murph writing songs - doesn't ring very true to me.

4. worst of all, I think, the incredibly confused handling of the brother's subplot. In the last 30pp or so, the family is overwhelmed with grief for him - the grief is described quite sensitively and eloquently. But they didn't seem to care about him when he was alive. Tassie ignore his email asking whether he should join the army, doesn't seem that bothered when he joins the army, then is overwrought when, in the army, he gets killed ... come on, this doesn't make any sense. He doesn't even have any strong motive for joining save some kind of economic one (wants to pay for college) - which is real enough, but would it make a middle-class lad want to join the army and go to fight in a distant and deadly land? And why aren't the parents more bothered about it, given their eventual response to the death?

It just doesn't make any sense !!!

the pinefox, Saturday, 23 October 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

coffin scene would have made a great short story set-piece. instead of a novel, she could have written 4 or 5 good short stories with the material she had. brother's death short story. visiting mom and dad on the farm story. being a nanny for uptight restaurant owner short story. little kid on the highway short story. but she did what she did...

they could have been linked too. the stories. ditch the terrorist boyfriend all together.

plus, most vague and underwritten main character ever! which can work okay in a short story. i didn't even believe that this person played the bass! everything about her seemed random. all the details. and i didn't know her at all by the end.

scott seward, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty much have to agree with that assessment!

I don't believe she played bass guitar either.

the pinefox, Saturday, 23 October 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

the lives of midwestern college girls in the early 2000s, also of particular interest to me.

j., Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

scott totally otm

just1n3, Saturday, 23 October 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

'places to look for your mind'

continues my sense that LIKE LIFE is not the best of LM.

It has an English character who talks in a Dick-Van-Dyke kind of way

and a US woman who is rather patronized and made just to look daft by the narrative voice.

But I thought ANAGRAMS was before LIKE LIFE and I admired that greatly!

the pinefox, Thursday, 8 September 2011 08:24 (twelve years ago) link

She wrote about Friday Night Lights in NYRB recently.

Eddie 2012: Demand The Cardigan (Eazy), Sunday, 11 September 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

i am reading like life, mildly bemused to find the pinefox had revived this thread nine months ago to make much the same points i was going to make, huh

thomp, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

i consider like life and anagrams her juvenilia.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

or wait no i think i mean self help and anagrams. her 80's stuff.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

oof reading what i wrote about that last book...makes me sad. i wanted to love it!

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

i think the 80s pair are more assured than 'like life', on current showing; probably if i hadn't read 'birds' before i'd like it more -- it seems to be in the same mode but not quite there yet: a little glib, some lapses of attention, some overly story-ish things happening

thomp, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

apparently she shows up every once in awhile at the bar down the block for grad student things, i'm sure i wouldn't recognize her though

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

she looks like this:


scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

"about as happy as she got -- a sigh with some light in it"

thomp, Sunday, 1 July 2012 06:47 (eleven years ago) link

it has taken me until p194 to 'get' the title of 'a gate at the stairs'

thomp, Sunday, 1 July 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

also i kinda liked it

thomp, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

pinefox's point four above is like the epitome of pinefoxian-bafflement-via-misprision, i think

thomp, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...


charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

The story 'Foes' in BARK is one of the most entertaining fictions I think Lorrie Moore has written in a long time.

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 July 2014 08:52 (nine years ago) link

I loved Bark when I read it but I realised while I was reading it that it was very much in the same way that I love a new album by a band that sounds comfortingly similar to their other loved material. When I'd read my fourth or fifth story in a row in which characters exchanged delightful verbally-inventive quips I started to wonder whether or not they were doing this because the character or situation actually demanded it, or just because that's what characters in Lorrie Moore stories do. I was very rarely not entertained (and her skewering of a kind of 00s US indie rock mentality is a lot more adept than, say, Jonathan Franzen's) but I started to wonder whether this was a writer content to operate within her comfort zone.

In general I feel she's at her weakest when she's at her most explicitly political - the second half of Gate At The Stairs, etc, and found the twist involving the antagonist in Foes to be a slightly cheap shot as far as narrative devices go.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 July 2014 09:13 (nine years ago) link

the capitalization of BARK confused me and made me think we were discussing a literary journal

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 July 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link

I do remember having to put down the book after reading the first paragraph and just thinking "I am so happy I'm reading this", it was like listening to a New Order record and hearing a new Peter Hook bassline for the first time, you know exactly what it's going to do but in the moment it feels perfect.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 July 2014 09:20 (nine years ago) link

DC I basically agree but isn't that roughly what one might have felt about LM for about 15 years?

The Rock thing you mean, I assume, is in the 'Wings' story?

Probably agree re politics, but 'Foes' is tremendously written and funny !

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 July 2014 12:33 (nine years ago) link

Only realized toward finishing 'Wings' that it was a rewrite of Henry James.

Odd that it's a song about ROCKERS but is presumably not a joke about the band WINGS.

If only Peter Miller were here to humour me.

the pinefox, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

And 'Referential' is 'after VN' which I take is Nabokov - which story, I am unsure, but there seems to be an 'intertextual exercise' motif here.

the pinefox, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

remembered what I was going to say about 'Wings' -

I didn't really get - or believe! - the motivation esp of the central woman, right up to her final dealings with the house

although I realize that 'the mystery of motivation', 'the ambiguity of people's desires' is the Jamesian schtick she is referring to.

the pinefox, Friday, 25 July 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link

eight years pass...

I've only just seen this 2009 review of LM, by a notable writer on climate breakdown. Well informed and worthwhile I think.


the pinefox, Friday, 11 November 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link

“I feel like I’ve got five years to live,” says Agnes, in “Agnes of Iowa,” having made a brief go of things in New York. “So I’m moving back to Iowa so that it’ll feel like fifty.”

That is so good.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 November 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link

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