I'll start with Amis's Lucky Jim
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― spittle (spittle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago) link
Older novels tend to be shorter (recent writers appear to confuse quantity and quality). A lot of the English Victorian writers wrote short novels: Brontë, Dickens, Gaskill, Elliot, etc. Quite a bit of Modernist writing is concise: Hamsun, Woolf, Faulkner, Lawrence, James, Nabokov, etc. The angry young men, too, wrote while their hackles were up, which apparently didn't last long: Kingsley Amis, Braine, John Wain, etc.
Otherwise, go for the more recent "genre fiction" - pulp, thrillers, sf, crime, horror, and the like. A lot of this stuff is better than that produced by the self-professed "literary" novelists, who haunt the cafés of New York.
― SRH (Skrik), Saturday, 19 June 2004 08:17 (twenty years ago) link
"the self-professed "literary" novelists, who haunt the cafés of New York." They're the ones w/laptops in Starbucks?
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― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 01:50 (twenty years ago) link
The Crypto-Amnesia Club (110 pp!)
Perfect Tense (168 pp)
Only Jerry the Nipper can reveal how short Missing Margate is.
― the junefox, Wednesday, 23 June 2004 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
*Are you reading the Rebel Inc editions of the first two books above? I've got about 15 out of the first 20. They seem to be out of print now? *
Yeah, Rebel Inc was how I got into Brautigan, Dodge and John Fante - some great books there. Dunno about them being out of print - certainly some Rebel Inc editions are still available on amazon - but it seems like some (inc Stone Junction) are now published under the banner of RI's parent publisher, Canongate. See http://www.canongate.net/rebel/rip.taf for more...
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― St. Nicholas Ridiculous (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
And I have no idea what I meant by this:and a play in print, but none of those are currently in printI don't think the play is in print.
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― erik, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago) link
The Pidgeon is still in print in the UK as is the childhood story (which is far more satisfying that the awfulness of Perfume).
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― Ray (Ray), Friday, 24 March 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Jed OTM re Pornografia. Cosmos isn't that long either.
― Matt (Matt), Friday, 24 March 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link
...is great. Vivid and compact, follows a dreamlike logic, quasi-autobiographical and sensuous.
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― The Day The World Turned Dayglo Redd (Ken L), Friday, 24 March 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I have read a lot of Barbara Comyns over the past few years, and each novel's pleasingly brief. I'd recommend "The Vet's Daughter" and "Who Was changed and Who Was Dead" over the more readily available "Our Spoons Came From Woolworths".
There are tons more and I'm having trouble bringing them to mind, but a fe follow: "Gardener To The King" by Frederic Richaud is v slim and v wonderful. "Silk" by Alessandro Baricco is tinier but less marvellous, still pretty good. "Sweetness" by Torgny Lindgren is fab. Also all of the Jean Echenoz I've read is well worth the short time necessary to read it (I've read "I'm Off", "One Year", "Double Jeopardy" and "Piano"). That's not supposed to be as backhanded a compliment as it sounds!
Michel Faber's two novellas "The One Hundred And Ninety Nine Steps" and "The Courage Consort" are his best work, I think.
I haven't read a book over 350 pages for ages. I'm a bit scared of Frank Kogan's tome, for that reason (while looking forward to it vey much, obv).
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i wonder whether there might be reason not to call it a novel. i wonder whether someone more knowledgable than me could go through this thread and point out which ones might not 'really' be novels. also whether there are any that are 'lyric novels'.
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
"East is East" by T. C. Boyle"Rich in Love" and "Dreams of Sleep" by Josephine Humphreys (but not her new one set in North Carolina, I forget its name)
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
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Oops! Wrong thread. Very wrong thread
Well, it's short...
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