― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link
hey ramon, if you care to, can you talk about why j0nathan p3nner is a cunt? (reference: david foster wallace - is he a cunt? )
― W i l l (common_person), Sunday, 8 October 2006 06:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Sunday, 8 October 2006 06:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link
nah i must admit i've never read atwood and have no real desire to. if anyone can recommend me one (1) great atwood book i'll give it a shot. as far as munro goes, i just love it. if you think she ploughs the same field over and over that's because she's just writing as truthfully as she can about peoples lives, and people tend to be plough those same fields, but she makes you look at each new character and situation completely fresh. the writing is breathtaking at times.
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 October 2006 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link
aside from her ranging intellect and ability to write in every genre ever, atwood has an autonomy, a wit, and a viscousness that munro lacks,and her work gets more complicated, more exprimental, and harder (as in like granite) as she goes on...
i dont see the mechanics in atwoods work, i dont find it effortless, and i see her untying knots, slowly and methodically, in a way i dont find munroe even apraoching.
speaking of wit--ive never laughed at munro (or with her)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― David Elinsky (David Elinsky), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link
even man hating--i never got that from atwood, and it suggests mild misreading, a general, hard, misonthropy, where she is deeply susspicious of both natural and artifical human qaulities, and a tendency towards acknowledging hard political truths, is assumed to be misogyny
point out where she is funny
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
so true! it's cuz of the way she builds stories. such amazing structures. i'm often flabbergasted by how she gets from a to b or a to z. when i get to the end of a story i say, wait a minute, how did she...?
"just so beautiful and well written that you have to get up and walk around the room once or twice before you continue, if only out of respect."
again with the truthiness! i am humbled by her. seriously. she truly inspires me. i feel like i'm receiving an amazing gift when i read her.
she's beyond labels, anthony. beyond feminism. beyond provincialism. she's just...beyond all that.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Josh (Josh), Monday, 9 October 2006 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 9 October 2006 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link
damn, i had no idea she passed. RIP.
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 October 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link
Though shouldn't canadians not be allowed to write? Kofi Annan should get on this shit, post haste.
― askance johnson (sdownes), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/search/results?query=%22alice+munro%22&page=1
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― sandy mc (sandy mc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 04:15 (seventeen years ago) link
her short stories are marvellous, though, as are the novels i've read, esp. 'life before man' and 'surfacing.' 'lady oracle' is nice, but not essential. i am still waiting to read 'cat's eye.'
― derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 08:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Thanks for posting the link, Mecha-ant, I could swear I'd been looking for a way of searching the New Yorker archive before, but was unable to find it. Of course, now I see there's a search bar on the front page, so either it's a recent addition, or I should feel very embarrassed indeed.
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Cat's Eye is lovely. Life Before Man and Surfacing have charms as well. She's also done some neat things with poems.
Munro has never grabbed me but it's possible I haven't read the right things.
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link
atwood frustrated?
― nostormo, Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
haha I would imagine not? it's funny that Munro and Atwood get lumped together because Canadian but I see few similarities otherwise... I've always thought Atwood and Iain Banks were more of the same cloth
― you and me against the board (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
she's hiding it well on Twitter if she is frustrated.
― woof, Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link
Oh wow, amazing! I never even considered this for some reason.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 October 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
Atwood on Munro:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/10/alice-munro-nobel-literature-prize-margaret-atwood
― Lover (Eazy), Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
fuckin write a novel alice
― mookieproof, Saturday, 9 April 2022 03:22 (two years ago) link