Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novels of 1949

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1984 by George Orwell 8
My Friend Maigret by Georges Simenon 2
The Moon And The Bonfires by Cesare Pavese 2
Time Of Hope by C.P. Snow 1
The Moving Target by Ross MacDonald 1
The Man With The Golden Arm by Nelson Algren 1
Heliopolis by Ernst Junger 1
Lottie And Lisa by Erich Kastner 1
The Thief's Journal by Jean Genet 1
Confessions Of A Mask by Yukio Mishima 1
Cré na Cille by Máirtín Ó Cadhain 0
Cannon-Fodder by Louis Ferdinand Céline 0
The Beautiful Summer by Cesare Pavese 0
The Emigrants by Vilhelm Moberg 0
The Train Was On Time by Heinrich Boll 0
Mr.Sampath - The Printer Of Malgudi by R.K. Narayan 0
Igbo Olodumare by Daniel O. Fagunwa 0
In A Dark Wood Wandering by Hella S. Haasse 0
On Overgrown Paths by Knut Hamsun 0
Olivia by Dorothy Bussy 0
New Day by V.S. Reid 0
A Nail Merchant At Nightfall by Mika Waltari 0
A Mind At Peace by Ahmet Hamdi Tanpınar 0
The Mermaid Madonna by Stratis Myrivilis 0
Men Of Maize by Miguel Ángel Asturias 0
The Magic Chalk by Zinken Hopp 0
The Kingdoms Of This World by Alejo Carpentier 0
Troubled Sleep by Jean Paul Sartre 0
The Dead Stay Young by Anna Seghers 0
Weekend At Zuydcoote by Robert Merle 0
A Rage To Live by John O'Hara 0
The Oasis by Mary McCarthy 0
Nothing More Than Murder by Jim Thompson 0
The Little Sister by Raymond Chandler 0
Like Lesser Gods by Mari Tomasi 0
The Incredible Planet by John W. Campbell Jr. 0
Needle by Hal Clement 0
L'Europe buissonnière by Antoine Blondin 0
The Red Planet by Robert A. Heinlein 0
The Sword Of Rhiannon by Leigh Brackett 0
The Long Shadow by Jon Cleary 0
Love In A Cold Climate by Nancy Mitford 0
Les Âmes Fortes by Jean Giono 0
The Golden Time by Harold Standish 0
A Wreath Of Roses by Elizabeth Taylor 0
The Parasites by Daphne du Maurier 0
Little Boy Lost by Marghanita Laski 0
The Journeying Boy by Michael Innes 0
All Things Betray Thee by Gwn Thomas 0
Atheis by Achdiat Karta Mihardja 0


Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:12 (four months ago) link

Happy to report that this was difficult to limit to 50 books not because of US or UK but international authors.

Finally a Maigret I've read, and enjoyed a lot, so I'm voting that.

Pretty sure Orw*ll will walk this.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:14 (four months ago) link

Thought I had read Love in a Cold Climate but turns out I was thinking of Love on a Branch Line, which was very much not written by Nancy Mitford!

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:24 (four months ago) link

Lottie and Lisa!!!! Easy vote.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:38 (four months ago) link

Lottie and Lisa is The Parent Trap btw

Lily Dale, Thursday, 11 March 2021 16:32 (four months ago) link

Shocked not to see The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles listed here. I haven't read any of these, not even 1984, which I suppose I believe I've consumed by osmosis.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:08 (four months ago) link

Sheltering Sky is really great. I've read the below and I'd stan for all bar Cré na Cille which is a good concept that doesn't quite come off.

Confessions Of A Mask by Yukio Mishima
Nothing More Than Murder by Jim Thompson
The Thief's Journal by Jean Genet
The Beautiful Summer by Cesare Pavese
Cré na Cille by Máirtín Ó Cadhain
The Moon And The Bonfires by Cesare Pavese

Going for The Moon and The Bonfires

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:52 (four months ago) link

if anybody voting for 1984 could mention it in the thread that would be great thanks

A bot scamping on a human face, forever (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:55 (four months ago) link

didn't realise some of these were published quite so early, my first instinct is Man with the Golden Arm

A bot scamping on a human face, forever (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:56 (four months ago) link

Oh yes and 1984, which I dislike.

These are ones I'd love to read:

The Kingdoms Of This World by Alejo Carpentier
A Mind At Peace by Ahmet Hamdi Tanpınar

Never heard of Cannon-Fodder lol xxp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:56 (four months ago) link

voting mishima, runner up would go to carpentier's el reino en este mundo which i read in university and found somewhat flawed but which i need to re-read.

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:59 (four months ago) link

I think I've only read the Algren and Orwell out of this list. I liked them both fine at the times I read them, but I'm not sure I'm particularly motivated to vote for either.

emil.y, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:13 (four months ago) link

1984 is far more of a cultural artifact than great literature. I've read so little of this list that I think I'll abstain.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:16 (four months ago) link

This is Tim Parks on his new translation of The Moon and The Bonfires:

https://fondazionecesarepavese.it/en/news/dialogues-with-pavese-tim-parks/

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:43 (four months ago) link

Anyone have an opinion on the dueling translations on Cré na Cille? They’re both available at my library!

JoeStork, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:49 (four months ago) link

Shocked not to see The Sheltering Sky by Paul Bowles listed here.

It was on the initial list but got culled to bring it down to 50, as stated I gave precedence to non US/UK stuff (even tho it's less likely any of us will have read it).

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 12 March 2021 11:08 (four months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 14 March 2021 00:01 (four months ago) link

There's this really cool bit in Lottie and Lisa where Erich Kastner stops and addresses any adult readers who think it's inappropriate for him to write a kids' book about divorce (his point being that as kids are affected by divorce it's only fair to let them read about it.)

When Shirley Temple was no more than seven or eight she was already a film star, famous all over the world. And she earned for the film companies many millions of dollars. But when Shirley wished to go with her mother to a cinema and take a look at a Shirley Temple film, she was not admitted. She was still too young. It was forbidden. She could only make films. That was not forbidden. She was old enough for that.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 14 March 2021 05:03 (four months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 15 March 2021 00:01 (four months ago) link

I gave precedence to non US/UK stuff

no offense, but maybe give precedence to non heinlein too? i mean, stranger in a strange land or starship troopers okay, but

mookieproof, Monday, 15 March 2021 02:07 (four months ago) link

Getting here too late to vote, but since there was a request for posts re 1984:
When I was in the Ninth Grade, we were required by the State Legislature to read this and Animal Farm, as part of course work re Anticommnunism. Lionel Trilling's intro told us right off that it wasn't just about the Commies, that O. got the idea while writing WWII propaganda. Also, Winston and Julia were in bed--thanks, State Legislature! Nevertheless, O's briskly detailed, brittle (wood-framed) scenes drove his points home, with determination, not just slickness--that too, but goes with the hooks. I still remember unsettling phrases from it. And then he's done, over and out, make of it what you will. Maybe it's more artifact than literature, but so is my head. (Also, as w several of these lists, it's the only one I remember reading).

dow, Monday, 15 March 2021 02:19 (four months ago) link

Writing WWII propaganda *for the BBC*

dow, Monday, 15 March 2021 02:20 (four months ago) link

Actually, my head can be about even between artifact and literature (at least contents-wise, re the latter), and so is this book (at *least* that much literature)

dow, Monday, 15 March 2021 02:24 (four months ago) link

no offense, but maybe give precedence to non heinlein too? i mean, stranger in a strange land or starship troopers okay, but

Haha, point taken. Should have added I also tend to let as much genre stuff in as possible to keep the polls from getting too predictable.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 March 2021 11:08 (four months ago) link

didn't vote but would have gone for Algren I think. Did love teh books i read by him think I was turned o by some music pres coverage of people Like Nick Cave or possibly just the writers enjoying him.
Film with Frank Sinatra's quite good.
As is Walk On The Wild Side

Failing that the Genet . who I eally should read more by. Think it has been a while since i did read him. Definitely read a lot of the basic stuff in my late teens.
I have the Sartre book on him lying around somewhere too.

MIshima
Celine
THompson
Hamsun
are all good, even if a couple of them are like totally fascists

actually I think the Celine there was one i had in a translation by Billy Childish too.

Must compile these lists then neglect to read the ones I do manage to find in charity shops, such a wonderful habit why break it now

Stevolende, Monday, 15 March 2021 11:59 (four months ago) link

Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novels of 1950

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:28 (four months ago) link

Orwell winning is pure silent majority

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:42 (four months ago) link


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