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FANTASY AND SCIENCE FICTION FAVORITES
Bantam brings you the recognized classics as well as the current favorites in fantasy and science fantasy. Here you will find the beloved Conan books along with recent titles by the most respected authors in the genre.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
12588 SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES by Ray Bradbury $1.95 5
13179 THE MARTIAN CHRONICLES by Ray Bradbury $2.25 4
13594 THE TOMBS OF ATUAN by Ursula LeGuin $2.25 2
11609 A WIZARD OF EARTHSEA by Ursula LeGuin $1.95 2
13006 A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ by Walter Miller, Jr. $2.25 2
12454 DEMON SEED by Dean R. Koontz $1.95 1
13563 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA by Jules Verne $1.75 1
12680 TRITON Samuel R. Delany $2.25 1
13612 DHALGREN Samuel R. Delany $2.95 1
12031 SKULLS IN THE STARS: Solomon Kane #1 Robert E. Howard $1.95 0
11139 THE MICRONAUTS Gordon Williams $1.95 0
11276 THE GOLDEN SWORD Janet Morris $1.95 0
12706 CONAN THE LIBERATOR #2 DeCamp & Carter $1.95 0
11392 STAR TREK: THE NEW VOYAGES 2 by Culbreath & Marshak $1.95 0
13426 DRAGONSINGER Anne McCaffrey $2.25 0
13360 DRAGONSONG Anne McCaffrey $2.25 0
10879 JONAH KIT Ian Watson $1.50 0
12019 KULL Robert E. Howard $1.95 0
10779 MAN PLUS Frederik Pohl $1.95 0
12018 CONAN THE SWORDSMAN #1 DeCamp & Carter $1.95 0
12456 NIGHTMARES AND GEEZENSTACKS Frederic Brown $1.75 0
12753 STAR TREK: THE NEW VOYAGES by Culbreath & Marshak $1.95 0
13260 ALAS BABYLON by Pat Frank $2.25 0
12673 HELLSTROM'S HIVE by Frank Herbert $1.95 0
11662 SONG OF THE PEARL by Ruth Nichols $1.75 0
11599 THE FARTHEST SHORE by Ursula LeGuin $1.95 0
11417 STAR TREK XI by James Blish $1.50 0
12655 FANTASTIC VOYAGE by Isaac Asimov $1.95 0
12477 NEBULA AWARD STORIES ELEVEN Ursula LeGuin, ed. $1.95 0
13610 NOVA Samuel R. Delany $2.25 0
12269 TIME STORM Gordon R. Dickson $2.25 0


Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

Note: this is from the penultimate and antepenultimate page. The final page is all titles from RAY BRADBURY: America's most daring explorer of the imagination. A separate poll can be created if needed.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:44 (three weeks ago) link

Lol Delany stuff really sticks out

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:03 (three weeks ago) link

I inserted an extra space in the thread title but otherwise I think I got it all right.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:05 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, it does stick out but still seems to be an interesting range of stuff, so it’s not a complete outlier.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:06 (three weeks ago) link

What year is this from?

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

What year is this from?

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:13 (three weeks ago) link

1979.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:18 (three weeks ago) link

Wow, the list on page two of other Bantam titles has some more good stuff not seen here.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:21 (three weeks ago) link

Couple people on here I’ve never heard of. Pat Frank? Ian Watson?

Οὖτις, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:26 (three weeks ago) link

Alas, Babylon was kind of like On the Beach in that it was an apocalyptic/post-apocalyptic novel written by someone not known within the genre, iirc. You never read “The Very Slow Time Machine”?

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:33 (three weeks ago) link

Somebody paid Will Patton to record an audiobook of it, so it still seems to have an audience.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:44 (three weeks ago) link

Watson's magic omnibus The Books of the Black Current got me catnipping on Rolling Speculative, where James Morrison also cited The Embedding. Don't know this title, but looks very Watsonian. What, we can only vote for one of these? Prob. Delany. Show the list on page two!

dow, Sunday, 17 November 2019 19:48 (three weeks ago) link

Okay, should be able to post that one in a little bit.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 20:54 (three weeks ago) link

Bantam Science Fiction
Ask your bookseller for the books you have missed

FANTASTIC VOYAGE by Isaac Asimov
MONUMENT by Lloyd Biggle, Jr.
NIGHTMARES AND GEEZENSTACKS by Fredric Brown
HONEYMOON IN HELL by Fredric Brown
ROGUE IN SPACE by Fredric Brown
WHAT MAD UNIVERSE by Fredric Brown
BEASTS by John Crowley
DHALGREN by Samuel R. Delany
NOVA by Samuel R. Delany
TALES OF NEVERYON by Samuel R. Delany
TRITON by Samuel R. Delany
UBIK by Philip K. DIck
NEBULA WINNERS TWELVE by Gordon Dickson
TIME STORM by Gordon Dickson
ALAS, BABYLON by Pat Frank
THE STAINLESS STEEL RAT WANTS YOU by Harry Harrison
HELLSTROM'S HIVE by Frank Herbert
DEMON SEED by Dean Koontz
NEBULA AWARDS STORIES TWELVE edited by Ursula K. LeGuin
THE DAY OF THE DRONES by A.M. Lightner
DRAGONSONG by Anne McCaffrey
DRAGONSINGER by Anne McCaffrey
A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ by Walter M. Miller, Jr.
HIGH COUCH OF SILISTRA by Janet E. Morris
WIND FROM THE ABYSS by Janet E. Morris
LOGAN'S RUN by William F. Nolan & George Clayton Johnson
LOGAN'S WORLD by William F. Nolan
MAN PLUS by Frederik Pohl
CRITICAL MASS by Frederik Pohl & C.M. Kornbluth
LAGRANGE FIVE by Mack Reynolds
THE FEMALE MAN by Johanna Russ
CROMPTON DIVIDED by Robert Sheckley
THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF ROBERT SHECKLEY by Robert Sheckley
THE JONAH KIT by Ian Watson
NEBULA AWARD STORIES NINE edited by Kate Wilhelm

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:14 (three weeks ago) link

Joanna Russ's name spelled incorrectly in the original.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:15 (three weeks ago) link

Front page contains the full version of this quote

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:17 (three weeks ago) link

Sorry, left out
THE GOLDEN SWORD by Janet E. Morris, with whom I am still unfamiliar.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:17 (three weeks ago) link

Hopefully will remember to add in case we decide to poll that list too.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2019 22:21 (three weeks ago) link

Probably voting Walter Miller Jr as my favourite Delaneys and Le Guins aren't on there.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 18 November 2019 02:33 (three weeks ago) link

Was thinking same, as thats not my favorite Pohl (by some distance) either

Οὖτις, Monday, 18 November 2019 03:22 (three weeks ago) link

lol @ their being a Logan's Run sequel

is Fredric Brown worth reading? why does he get so many entries on this list?

Οὖτις, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:30 (three weeks ago) link

I must've read some of his short pieces at some point, but they left no impression

Οὖτις, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:33 (three weeks ago) link

Can't load that image.

alimosina, Monday, 18 November 2019 21:00 (three weeks ago) link

lol @ their being a Logan's Run sequel

is Fredric Brown worth reading? why does he get so many entries on this list?

He’s very pulpy-he also wrote mysteries-almost too pulpy, but can have really good ideas which he often puts into super short stories of which form Malzberg, who has a chapter on him in Breakfast in the Ruins/The Engines of Night, considers him the master, I think. Maybe the best for me is his genre-tweaking stuff like the novels Martians, Go Home and especially What Mad Universe, the latter being an extremely well-done commentary on fan service gone bananas. Also wrote a much anthologized story upon which an episode of Star Trek:TOS was based on, and which probably inspired other episodes of that series.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 01:08 (two weeks ago) link

I haven't read enough of these to vote in good conscience, but I'm basically a "Martian Chronicles" guy.

o. nate, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 03:07 (two weeks ago) link

Earthsea over Dhalgren for me

Book Doula (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 03:40 (two weeks ago) link

I was just contemplating re-reading those McCaffrey books the other day but I'm afraid they won't have aged well as opposed to my pre-teen memory of them

Book Doula (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 03:41 (two weeks ago) link

The only thing I've read by here was an anthologized early Pern story: blanking on titles, but it was from the 60s, orig. in Analog, I think (editor commented that she was one of Campbell's last proteges). Was immediately drawn into complicated intrigue, world-building and customized dragons (bred by lost Earthling colonists to psychic powers and bonding in pairs with humans, 4 life). The reversion or extension of feudalism went with retro-futuristic play of the dragon card in power struggles and other cultural activities. SF with the trappings and flavor of fantasy, so yeah planetary romance, as this article says (I'd just read Dune, so was especially up for McC.):
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/mccaffrey_anne
Though caveat:
McCaffrey and her collaborators and successors have, perhaps inevitably, allowed a touchy-feely Young Adult glow to soften the impact of its first volumes, losing in the process the clarity of her focus on strong women protagonists (see Women in SF), and her remarkable nuts-and-bolts attentiveness to the problems of living and gaining career success in Pern.
So, yet more stuff that gets better the farther back you go, maybe---then again, she wrote other interesting-looking books mentioned here.

dow, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:29 (two weeks ago) link

There were at least two Logan's Run sequels, I owned the one on here as a kid.

My favourites are the Bradburys and the Delaneys and Earthsea but I'm conflicted about that one

The Man Who Was Thirsty (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:33 (two weeks ago) link

Almost certainly Something Wicked for me

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 16:47 (two weeks ago) link

dow (and sfencyclopedia) generally otm about McCaffrey - I re-read some of those books recently and the writing and plotting and general ideas tend to devolve as the series goes on (and on, and on). It's important to remember that there was basically nothing like this before her, this kind of pulpy YA sf fantasy fiction with strong women protagonists, written by a woman. She invented that shit.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

Norton's Ordeal In Otherwhere and Year Of The Unicorn pre-dates Pern by a few years. Don't know if they were the first.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:46 (two weeks ago) link

idk anybody irl that read Andre Norton. Even as a kid, the only reason I knew the name was because of her foundation's grants to PBS lol.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

but sure ok

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:51 (two weeks ago) link

She seems to have some staying power because recent writers like Aliette De Bodard, Ann Leckie, Craig Laurence Gidney probably a few others I'm forgetting have some love for her.

I didn't like one book I tried recently but I've got a bunch more to get to.

I'm sure the anthology Dow is reading has one of her stories.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

Yep, this one: ANDREW NORTH: All Cats Are Gray | 1953. Haven't gotten there yet. Title seems familiar, but I don't recall ever reading anything by her. Very good selections so far.

dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:47 (two weeks ago) link

title is from Mervyn Peake/Ghormenghast

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

Okay, reminder that I still need to read all that too!
I don't know how her whole life-cycle might compare to those of Norton and McC.'s valiant women, but already, in this 1934 Weird Tales tale I tripped on above, Jirel of Jorey is a badass with emotional conflicts to match or overmatch physical violence, of which there is plenty, in a pulpy yet non-gratuitous way. I don't know that such a combo would have been acceptable in a comparable male character (don't recall Conan having those feels, although creator Robert E. Howard seemed to flame out after his mother's death, right? So maybe Conan did have some perceptible vulnerabilities somewhere--or Red Sonja? Never read stories of her).
Here, at least, Jirel seems like an ancestor of 60s teen angst Peter Parker->Spiderman--and his future peer Paul Atreides, who will have not wanna be no Dune Messiah for the Universe--and all or many such subsequent superheros and heroines.

dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:42 (two weeks ago) link

lol idk if you need to read *all* of it, I stopped after the first Ghormenghast book lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, me too.

title is from Mervyn Peake/Ghormenghast

Which title?

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:49 (two weeks ago) link

All Cats Are Gray

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:52 (two weeks ago) link

although huh I guess there is some idiomatic saying that predates Peake? idk

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

Poor Richard’s Almanac, if not earlier, I would hazard to guess.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:00 (two weeks ago) link

No, that's "All Cats Are Gay."

dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

"Like Horses!"

dow, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:31 (two weeks ago) link

You guys have got to be kidding.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 22:07 (two weeks ago) link

Usually see that quote attributed to Ben Franklin, although Wikipedia seems to have an earlier citation as well.

Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 22:32 (two weeks ago) link

voted tombs of atuan btw, where earthsea starts to get interesting (i.e. not patriarchal).

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Irae Louvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 14:40 (one week ago) link

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A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 7 December 2019 00:23 (two days ago) link

Poor "The Farthest Shore" -- always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

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