I have coveted everything and enjoyed nothing: what are you reading in Spring 2024?

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Under The Net is, against all expectations, a fun romp of a novel, I had a great time.

The other Murdoch I read was The Sandcastle - more of a conventional literary novel, main detail I remember is the couple mourning a dead dog who managed to bring them together "the way their own children never had".

Agreed on Grand Hotel.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:35 (two years ago)

i'm rather sure audiobooking is forbidden here, but i happened to fall across maugham's _the moon and sixpence_ and it is... not how i figured maugham really. i'd not recommend other than for how odd the characters come across, it's almost interesting how weird and unlikely they seem.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:06 (two years ago)

Audiobooking counts, unless you aren't really listening.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 20:13 (two years ago)

a nice thing with audiobooking is that my absorption is deeper than much of my reading because i will relisten to sections simply to re-experience or reparse, it feels pretty weightless to do.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 21 March 2024 05:24 (two years ago)

Rereading an anthology of Akutagawa short stories. Had forgotten the Kurosawa film is a) based on two different short stories and that b) the one called Rashomon ISN'T the one with the multiple perspectives.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 21 March 2024 10:18 (two years ago)

currently reading “the rebel angels” by robertson davies.

Thanks for the tip! I saw I have a combined edition of the whole Cornish Trilogy sitting on my shelf and your post encouraged me to try out The Rebel Angels as my next book. I've enjoyed several of Davies' novels in the past, but I tend to space them out at multi-year intervals. Luckily his trilogies aren't so conjoined that later entries require a knowledge the prior ones.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:08 (two years ago)

Have finished Justin Torres' Blackouts and Fuminori Nakamura's The Thief, and both were excellent. Am now almost through the second of the 5 parts of Roberto Bolaño's 2666

Dan S, Thursday, 21 March 2024 23:17 (two years ago)

I read the first chapter of Zora Neale Hurston's Jonah's Gourd Vine, which was very heavy on the lingo but I'm already enjoying it.
I read a short collection of short stories by Clarice Lispector, it was good to very good, clearly I should have gone for an anthology (now that I'm done with Lydia Davis' complete stories). I guess it worked as a taster to compare to her novellas.
Before that I read The House on the Borderland. It was certainly much more digestible, but ultimately with similar strengths and weaknesses as The Night Land. Interesting as a curiosity, but no masterpiece.

Nabozo, Friday, 22 March 2024 16:04 (two years ago)

Finished Total Doing That, a book of poems from Thomas Delahaye, a heteronym of a friend of mine. More accessible and dare I say obviously humorous than the other books of his I have read, it retains some undercurrents of sexual trauma that is evident in his other work.

Today it’s been pissing rain mostly, so I started in on So Much for Life, the selected poems of deceased British cult poet Mark Hyatt. Hyatt was a half-Romani queer who didn’t learn to write until he was in his twenties— by 31, he was dead, leaving behind hundreds of pages of poems, most of which were preserved by Barry MacSweeney and Jeremy Prynne on the eve of Hyatt’s suicide.

This interesting and tragic life is reflected in the poems, which crackle with rage and beauty and also with sex and a very unorthodox, nearly Californian approach to language— there are times when one could be convinced that they were reading a lost poem from the Spicer/Blaser/Duncan circle.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 23 March 2024 22:44 (two years ago)

Ted Gioia History of Jazz
Pretty thorough history by writer I had recommended and found in a couple of bibliographies. Interesting. Taken me longer to read than I meant to. May need to revisit.
But I think I can recommend it.

Eddie Piller Clean Living Under Difficult Circumstances.
Memoir of mod/Acid Jazz label head I met several times in my teens and early 20s.
He came from an area I lived in as a child and was about 5 miles away from where we moved to shortly before most of what I read so far took place. So I'm hearing talk about areas I knew and mentions of people I met and half knew.
So quite interesting to me anyway. I van see a couple of details he got wrong and thought he'd know better about. Calling a Regal shirt a poloneck when those are quite different (and something I've meant to make for ages) and I thought the term for this side of neck and top of shoulder buttoning style was Dr. Or Dr Kildare. Also Regal didn't move from Kensington market it opened a 2nd branch that coexisted with it for a couple of years.
One was a small premises like a walk in stall the other was a standalone shop.
Otherwise finding this fascinating. Him finding his way through being a mod in the revival's earlyish days when I was too young to know about it. I'm about 3 or 4 years younger.
So yeah very interesting to me cos it's local history. Not sure if it would remain immediate to anybody more distanced from it.

Those are the main 2 right now. Going to get back into another load as soon as I'm through.
David Greener Debt
A couple of anthropological/historic books on African tribes.
An anthropological book on Guayaki Indians by Pierre Clastres.
& a few others.

Gioia reached its maximum renewals I can do online so needed to be finished. Had been backburnered.

Stevo, Sunday, 24 March 2024 06:45 (two years ago)

currently reading “the rebel angels” by robertson davies. my dad gave it to me years ago when i first started grad school, saying something like “this book will make you want to do a phd.” it’s since sat on my shelf unread, but i’m now reading it in the last few months of my phd. finding it loads of fun so far

― flopson, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:07 bookmarkflaglink

oh i enjoyed this v much. lot of fun like you say. every page has something that you want to read twice. maybe slightly exhausting? in the end i prob preferred the deptford trilogy (I say that, i still haven't read the last). rebel angels more clearly a comedy, a farce even. rd was my main find last year and was surprised I hadn't previously stumbled across him.

my long run of not really being arsed with fiction continues:
some poetry: dipping into michael hofmann and tom gunn selecteds, and a late-ish RS Thomas - Counterpoint. the hofmann is fine, highly competent, and the thom gunn contains some striking stuff. to the extent i'm competent to judge (on grounds both of theology and poetry) the rs thomas is only intermittently successful, and somewhat arid - it feels v dated (mysteriously this slender volume of theological poetry was the only physical book i took with me for the 24hr flight to australia and back), but does have moments where you are aware of a profound poetic intelligence grappling with faith, evil and creation.

more generally re-engaging with poetry, the poetic act, feels like electricity coursing through the body and mind.

a history of fake things on the internet - walter j scheirer. good this, apart from an ill-advised foray into structuralism in the second section. the book starts from a place that questions how much fake stuff there is - sophisticated 'deepfakle' attempts to deceive us in terms of audio/visual media - very little. synthesized and selective creative acts, cobbled together images and text memes etc - 'participatory fakery', designed to make a point - a lot. and also questions the term 'fake' as it's generally thrown around:

Do all falsehoods necessarily mislead us? Are those who produce false content always malicious? What would happen if media that facilitate the widespread dissemination of fictions were strictly regulated or even banned? Who even has a good grasp of what those media are and how they work?

the author is sensible to then go into use cases to look at the mechanics and history of misleading content on teh internet. early hacker communities and 'culture jamming' ('the news is, in practice, is a system that can be hacked'), photoshop ('What was not initially appreciated by creators and observers of visual disinformation was that a fake image could be more effective in a democracy if it were obviously fake'), 'cheat codes' as a line into the passing about of information designed to provide special insight or knowledge, media forensics, shock content sites, and a couple of others that look more general on AI, and the internet (and social media) as creative spaces.

this all files under 'epistemic health' for me, and how we need to update it practically as the internet changes, and the book does good work identifying the mechanics of manipulations of cultural information on the internet.

Descartes' Error - António Damásio. Updating my very out of date understanding of neuroscience - especially the generally somatic view and approach. Hate reading about the brain - its complexity is so great and the impact of damage is so profound, it makes me feel very queasy, an enormous sense of fragility and dependency on it for everything. ugh. anyway, once it gets over some slightly irritating literary flourishes at the beginning and gets clearly into the topics about which Damasio knows and is interested in, it's very good.

Cybernetics and the Origin of Information – Raymond Ruyer. An old (now) book of engaged critical theory writings on information theory. interesting to see what needs updating because of recent developments. Reminds me I should pick up On the Mode of Existence of Technical Objects by Simondon again - it was dense, but possible to engage with, and probably would be a good counterpart to this.

Monsieur (or 'The Prince of Darkness') - the first of Lawrence Durrell's Avignon Quintet, whose main subject matter appears to be gnosticism. I don't know whether i can stick it. It's laughably precious:

Sabine was older than the rest of us – not in years, to be sure: but in judgment and insight. Her voyagers and adventures had forged her mind already while we were still upon the threshold of our emotional maturity. The word I was looking for, I suppose, was "sphingine"

This produced an actual yelp of laughter from me. Yes, I suppose it was now I come to think of it. Sure. aiui the quintet or 'quincunx' (¬_¬) is meta-textual, so i'll continue into the second volume, Livia, to see if the nauseating polycule at the centre of Monsieur is undermined and made a justifiable laughing stock. Title isn't promising though is it.

I admit to a sneaking enjoyment of the flummery around the gnosticism. it's what's kept me reading.

also, also, he has a habit of putting *all* foreign words in italics. This gets extremely funny and irritating:

the scarlet bedsocks he always wore to match his vivid Egyptian babouches
at each corbner of the court rises a quaint and crusty little tourelle [sounds like a euphemism for penis]
I lit my candles and quickly put on the traditional black velvet coat which Piers had given me, with its scarlet lining; also the narrow stove-pipe pantaloons, dark sash and pointed black shoes – tenue de rigueur for Christmas dinner at Verfeuille. [also incidentally how i dress to put the rubbish out]
He will become the régisseur of Verfeuille while I am absent en mission [gone to the corner shop for milk]
I was seized by a singular sort of constraint, almost a pudeur [*almost*. not quite]
with always the danger of a fugue staring me in the face
at any rate she wore a red velvet carnival cagoule through the slits of which her eyes looked at us [£5.99 from M&S]
he had gone out to the Café Durance for a croissant and a cup of coffee [moi aussi, mon vieux, moi aussi, have u seen the price these days tho]
all but united in this central despair about the metaphysical status quo. Slowly, in his quiet voice, with its flavours of an ever mounting disenchantment he sketched in the terrible fresco of the present world, often in the form of a long quotation which attested as always to the formidable memory of this stage man. "The praying Mantis which devours its male even while it is fecundating her, the spider trapping the fly, and the pompile which stabs the spider to death, the ceceris which with a triple stroke of its sword scientifically destroys the three centres of the bupreste's nervous s ystem: and carries it off so that its larvae will be able to eat it still living, choosing their mouthfuls with skill, preserving the vital parts with a terrible science, unto the very last mouthful of the victim's flesh. Then the leucospis, the anthrax, the worm of which simply applies itself to the flank of the chalcidone, and sucks it dry through the skin, ingests, pumps out this living broth which is the young larvae, and then dries it cunningly, in order to keep it also fresh, living, until the last mouthful... The philante, the bee-killer, before even carrying off its victim presses out the crop to make it disgorge its honey, and sucks the tongue of the wretched dying insect as it sticks out of its mouth..."

[sorry sir this is a wendys etc]

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 March 2024 09:49 (two years ago)

why isn't fresco in italics why.

Fizzles, Sunday, 24 March 2024 09:50 (two years ago)

just to prove that i am indeed possessed by the ghost of a 50-something british woman who choked to death on turkish delight at a church jumble sale in the cotswalds in 1976 i am really enjoying Joanna Trollope's The Rector's Wife. she is a very good writer!

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 15:43 (two years ago)

Last night I finished The Rebel Angels, Robertson Davies. It was a tour de force, a descriptor that aptly fits any of his novels I've read. This one displays the usual erudition, wit, mastery of form and strong sense of playful mischief. It's entertainment with an intellectual flair.

It also reminded me why I tend not to avidly seek out another Davies novel soon after finishing my most recent excursion into his work. There's a quality in him I find off-putting, but hard to pin down. He strikes me as having a depth of understanding of human nature, but one that is artificially induced via intellect. There is a cruelty in him, hidden beneath a mask of flamboyance and theatricality. He tries hard to seduce you into this attitude and does a good job of it, too, but he leaves me feeling uneasy about what's at the core of his art. YMMV.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 29 March 2024 18:23 (two years ago)

Holly George-Warren's A Man Called Destruction. Itinerate commenter Edd Hurt dismissed it several weeks for not delving into the sources of Alex Chilton's guitar playing, but as someone who owns the Big Star albums and nothing else K found the bio was well-sourced and literate.

About to start The Dawn Watch: Joseph Conrad in a Global World.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 March 2024 18:36 (two years ago)

March was:

Zola - Germinal
Henri Alain Fournier - The Lost Estate
Dumas - Black Tulip
Balzac - An Episode Under the Terror
Balzac - At the Sign of the Cat and Racket
(the last two were very short, less than 100 pages total)

i'm not sure what i was expecting the lost estate to be like but it wasn't that.

germinal and black tulip a lot more readable than you'd think.

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 18:42 (two years ago)

i'm not sure what i was expecting the lost estate to be like but it wasn't that.

in a good way or a bad way? (I love it.)

gene besserit (ledge), Friday, 29 March 2024 19:06 (two years ago)

I picked up that book (The Lost Estate) about 15 years ago on the recommendation of a friend. I have yet to read it. I'm not sure why, other than this friend is a bit of a misanthrope. More than a bit, actually.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 March 2024 19:11 (two years ago)

it's definitely not a misanthropic book.

gene besserit (ledge), Friday, 29 March 2024 19:35 (two years ago)

it was probably a bit more modern than i was expecting. and i guess the cover suggested flouncy 20-something female and i got mostly scruffy teenage boys.

i liked the mystery of it. it was a bit tom's midnight garden. but i was expecting Thomasina.

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 19:36 (two years ago)

(i guess it's not so modern that places even 20 miles away are practically unknown to people, because 20 miles is a day's travel)

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 19:49 (two years ago)

There's a quality in him I find off-putting, but hard to pin down.

same tho i don’t think i agree with your point about cruelty. as i feel similarly about how it’s hard to pin down i’m not sure i have a reason for why i don’t agree.

whatever that quantity is, it’s less visible (but still disconcertingly present) in the deptford trilogy than the cornish stuff.

Fizzles, Friday, 29 March 2024 19:53 (two years ago)

Yeah, cruelty isn't the right word for that quality. I was reaching and overreached. Whatever it is, it is submerged and cumulative in effect.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 March 2024 01:10 (two years ago)

picked up after you were, i am by camille ralphs, which i’ve seen some fuss about.

this is - or at least the first section is - religious poetry, or rather religious poetry/texts from various periods (George Herbert, John Baillie, Mechthild of Magdeburg, Rumi) brought into contact with modernity.

Ralphs’ stylistic markers are so visible - word play, antithesis, dense clusters of alliteration and assonance (there must be a term for this) - that it’s a little difficult to work through the thicket as it were and find what else is there.

the project seems to be to divine something of the just future by applying mystic texts to the syllabic cacophony of the present.

i think there’s enough of interest on a first reading to go back and work through it some more.

from veni sancte spiritus:

Give to those who, doggèd, wait
on your fingers’ click and bait
the worried bone of friendliness


i suppose dogged needed the grave. but yes it gives a good general sense of it: the imv successful play of “your fingers’ click and bait” and something about in an age of social media captured well by the phrase “the worried bone of friendliness”.

when ralphs cuts loose a bit from their acrobatics they get some punch:

Like that last phrase, you run, like blinding colours through the eyeless world
and when the mind forgets itself, you’re there — where what is left to know is left to live.
Fine, hold me in your Holocene: give me a kicking; and the goods,
the martyrs with their hopscotch blood and nails as fragrant in their palms as cloves


(from Wessobrunn Prayer)

i’m looking forward to digging in, even if periodically i wish they’d let up a bit.

Fizzles, Saturday, 30 March 2024 17:51 (two years ago)

oh i think there must be something of the Pound here. interpreting the prosody of these old texts and modes to create unusual modern poetic forms (the alliteration, obv a form in old english/german etc)

Fizzles, Saturday, 30 March 2024 17:54 (two years ago)

periodically i wish they’d let up a bit

based on the fragments you quoted, understandable. sonically, it invites you to move right along, but semantically it's a slow, dense obstacle course, which tends to fight itself

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 March 2024 18:13 (two years ago)

I've started in on Kokoro, Natsume Soseki. The translator is Edwin McClellan. Too soon for comments.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 March 2024 21:11 (two years ago)

S. Yizhar - Preliminaries.

Review here that is fine with giving the synopsis of the book:

https://wordswithoutborders.org/book-reviews/preliminaries-by-s-yizhar/

The writing is wonderful, if you like that kind of thing. This will do it for you, no question. If it is a well I will walk for miles everyday to drink from it, for sure. And so on.

Except: what is it to read this now? Arabs have been displaced and we see the images of what that means on our screens. Every day for the last few months. The politics of that situation isn't discussed much in that review.

What saves it (if you like) is a measure of acknowledgement, some guilt, some awareness of what it is to have moved to a place so alien.

Above all the writing on nature, friendship, people. This guy can extract every ounce of feeling for the sky in his writing. If we were all truly able to have those feelings as expressed here maybe things would not have turned out as they have. I am no doubt wrong about this.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 31 March 2024 08:33 (two years ago)

really enjoying the ralphs. it's actually caused me to get my bible down this easter sunday to check the story of job against the prose poem Job 42:10-17 (the final verses covering god's double restitution to job of that which he had lost), which has the epigraph:

Yesterday P. asked: 'Do you think the children from Job's second chance could actually be happy?' Anna Kamieńska, A Nest of Quiet: A Notebook

His Children (whom he'd seen the fired pyres stripping of their nakedness and every woolly talisman) came back: came bringing groceries: and they said, this is what a bad trip feels like, we were never dead, you only thought we were: and though he had mislaid his face in tumuli of boils, had dropped his Eyes in lozenge-bottles crouched behind the ziggurats of shipping boxes at the docks, screamed at Life's fair unfairness, they beatified him

potent. i particularly like the mislaid face in the tumuli of boils, the brutality of those woolly talismans going up in flames, 'ziggurats of shipping boxes' does the job of the architecture of the ancient world in the modern well. and later, "And he blessed the World in turn because he feared to curse it" speaks plainly of what's been done to Job.

After This is That, he said, and if this were a bad trip I would know it. And did not escape the Feeling, angry as a tennis racquet, of his being made to serve.

And then Ralphs goes and does this! The actual metaphor, the maximal tautness of the strings in the tensile frame, the thwock of the tennis ball - no question, brings something to the quality of Job's anger. but 'of his being made to serve' can only be a joke. it's hard to see it as anything else. the immediate suspicion is that Ralphs couldn't find another way of putting it, was reluctant to relinquish this form of words, liked it too much maybe. on the other hand this could be depicting a nasty rhyming cruelty of the universe, indifferent to bathos. either way it's extremely disconcerting, and pulls you up short.

the final lines though, reassert the general tone of the poem, of Job alone retaining the memory of that which has been done to him:

You're dead, you're dead, he said, watching his children reproduce; and soon they too grew to believe it.

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 March 2024 09:38 (two years ago)

ralphs is willing to untether words from their moorings and use them for their abstract quantities, but this has the effect sometimes of causing you to wonder what a word is doing there - is there any constraint of meaning hanging off it at all? it can have the feeling of an LLM set to high temperature. but as i say, i'm really enjoying getting my teeth into it. it's fecund, energetic, smart etc.

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 March 2024 09:41 (two years ago)

Yeahm was already thinking that some of the word choices seem more willful than anything else, on first reading--but

And did not escape the Feeling, angry as a tennis racquet, of his being made to serve.
seems perfect: why wouldn't Job feel this way, being made a tool, an object lesson, his whole life being tortured into a Book of the Bible? On his behalf, the author refuses to take this Seriously, speaks it like a juvenile, like a punk, like "Highway 61."

dow, Sunday, 31 March 2024 20:40 (two years ago)

And I suppose that capitalizing "Feeling" could be sarcastic/counter-Serious, making your own damn book/Book, twisting the other side of the story around to the front.

dow, Sunday, 31 March 2024 20:44 (two years ago)

oh i agree the psychology is apt - it’s partly the point, but the serve-as-in-tennis-serve is, well it’s just silly. introducing an image that does nothing for the poem.

Fizzles, Sunday, 31 March 2024 21:21 (two years ago)

germinal ... a lot more readable than you'd think.
i did germinal in january & this was my takeaway too. definitely piqued my interest for more zola.

recent reads have included ivan turgenev's virgin soil, austen's persuasion, and anna kornbluh's immediacy. hoping to get to sand's the devil's pool soon.

vivian dark, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 00:37 (two years ago)

Fludd by Hilary Mantel. A strange little book, the kind where I feel like I'm on a completely different wavelength from the author, despite her easy cynicism concerning religion. (Though in an afterword she says she wishes that everyone could be brought up catholic, or something like it, because of the sense it gives that everything is not as it seems. Hmm.) You wouldn't think it was by the same author as Wolf Hall.

gene besserit (ledge), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 09:25 (two years ago)

because of the sense it gives that everything is not as it seems

most religions and a fair number of drugs provide this sense, but catholicism will do in a pinch

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 17:20 (two years ago)

a few children's books and an average imagination will do it.

gene besserit (ledge), Tuesday, 2 April 2024 18:01 (two years ago)

Thurston Moore Sonic Life
Avant garde guitarist's memoir. He's just got to having Lee Ranaldo in Sonic Youth who have Richard Edson back in the band after playing as a drummerless 3 piece.
Been pretty good so far.
I needed some lighter reading. Feeling fluey or something.

So not getting as heavily into a number of other non-fiction books as I wanted.

Rashid Khalidi the Iron Cage
Book looking at why Palestine is not doing better in its struggle by a Palestinian academic and historian. Looking at 20th century history of the place.

Enzo Traverso
Book on Marxist explanations of the holocaust.
I really dug the author's name when it turned up in a bibliography. So grabbed the book when I saw it was in the local library.

Peter Fryer Staying Power
Book on black presence in the British isles. Pretty scathing on widespread racism.
I'm having the same problem trying to work out how you read a text peppered with endnote reference numbers. Which this has several per paragraph frequently. How frequently you turn to the end of the book to read the notes thereby messing up flow reading the text.
Had this with Federici and Theodore Allen too. Maybe shows level of research but doesn't help flow.

And several other books I'm part way into.

Stevo, Tuesday, 2 April 2024 23:45 (two years ago)

I've stuck with the Clark book, it's vastly entertaining. Steampunk without being annoying, that's a feat in and of itself.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 00:47 (two years ago)

javier marías - a heart so white

very good. i thought the modernist long stream of consciousness sentences would tire me out (tbh they do, a bit) but he keeps it moving and mixes in enough dark humour to keep me afloat. the weirdness of spain is underrated

flopson, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 02:42 (two years ago)

A Heart So White has stayed with me. Great novel.

I'm reading *Night Soldiers* by Alan Furst. It's a spy novel, set in the 30s, and the central character (Bulgarian, but Russian by allegiance) is first trained in Moscow, then sent to Spain to infiltrate the Republican army. He's now on the run in Paris. I'm not at the stage where I can intuit a grand plan, so am sustained by Furst's moment-to-moment world-building. Furst clearly knows his subject but the sweep is so grand it can fall into national cliche pretty easily. Everything is buoyed by bawdy humour; weirdly, it makes me think of Jeffrey Eugenides in places.

Also reading *Empire of Normality: Capitalism and Neurodiversity* by Robert Chapman. He's using Marxist theory to show how capitalism both creates and exploits neurodiversity but how neurodiversity may provide a new mode of organisation against capitalism's worst excesses.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 08:37 (two years ago)

I'm in the middle of writing some essays for my MA, so I've had to take my first break from reading books in a few years.

That said I'm puttering through Jane and Prudence (great) and Pet Shop Boys vs America (complete classic, just page after page of prime Lowe/Tennant one-liners and mischievous glibness)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 3 April 2024 13:05 (two years ago)

I finished Alan Furst's *Night Soldiers*. I come to espionage fiction for the tight plotting and this had an odd mix of almost picaresque and what I came to think of as ambient passages of detail. I liked the latter quite a bit in the end. Weird comparison but some sections come on like Poker Face (the Natasha Lyonne series), wherein, to set up a new location, Furst introduces peripheral characters 'at work' in their particular milieu (Paris, New York, Bessarabia), as a stage-setting for the central characters to arrive into. He's great at. Plot? Maybe not so much.

It's 100% made me want to take a trip down the Danube though.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 5 April 2024 17:36 (two years ago)

Alejo Carpentier - Explosion in the Cathedral. Set during that period between post-American and French revolutions, this novel draws on the life of Victor Hughes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Hughes), where Carpentier basically uses him to sketch revolutionary undercurrents and alliances between members of the ruling class and the peasantry. The novel explores this episode of Caribbean history through the eyes of three characters as viewpoints. As a writer working in Castro's Cuba, Carpentier gets to write about revolutionary history, pre-communism (Peter Weiss does similar things with a Peasant revolt in the Aesthetics of Resistance (the 2nd part), drawing on peasant revolts in Sweden). All done in a Baroque framework (it is a new translation, released late last year). Can't recommend this enough.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 April 2024 20:20 (two years ago)

Carpentier's wonderful. The Kingdom of This World is one of my favorite novels.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 April 2024 20:26 (two years ago)

Great - need to read that and The Lost Steps (the other novel recently re-translated)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 April 2024 21:47 (two years ago)

reading this Marcel Schwob collection Spicilège, laughed harder than I had in a long time reading the essay on François Villon, serious tears of hard hard laughter at the exploits of the Coquillards in the aftermath of the 100 years war and the ridiculousness of Villon. Highly recommended.

brimstead, Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:04 (two years ago)

I finished Kokoro, Natsume Soseki. I found the intersection between Meiji Era Japanese culture and the lives and attitudes of the main characters interesting and revealing. It's basically a character study, where the psychology is equally foreign to modern American culture and familiarly human at the same time. It builds itself slowly and patiently, never rushing, so it requires a similar mindset for reading it.

By way of contrast, I've just started reading The Real Cool Killers, Chester Himes, which starts right out at a breathlessly violent pace and doesn't slacken.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 6 April 2024 18:07 (two years ago)

Kokoro is a favourite.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 April 2024 13:48 (two years ago)

Two books published within two years of each other - '73 and '75 respectively. Each feeling *very modern&

Japan Sinks - Sakyo Komatsu. I was slightly surprised to see this was two volumes in the original Japanese, given that it was quite short, but it turns out the English version is abridged. I haven't seen any of the films or anything. It's extremely competently done. There are two tracks to it: the progress of the scientific discovery and analysis, and the urban and social impact of the tectonic irruptions and eruptions. The former presents the sense of an increasingly scientifically tangible inexorable process, of an inevitable end, in a tone of calm analysis. In the latter, the right angles of the urban environment, the scientists lives, their parabolas and projections are thrown into disarray and disorder, via spectacular and explosive urban scenes. These are impressive btw - you get the feeling of someone who has done their research - and more widely Sakyo creates a descriptive context that draws on the mythic and the modern mythic (eg Godzilla) that produces some extremely potent imagery.

In one sense it's a standard template for scientific disaster narratives, but the alternation of the two, the impact of the one on on the other, and the fact that the cataclysms move the final event closer much more rapidly than the scientists can update their projections produce a compelling sense of two cadences coming to a single point. It feels intuitive to apply this feeling to climate change - that projections produce one view, alarming certainly, but that the manifestations of it will be uneven and extreme, and in the extreme areas, the frontier of change moves much more quickly than the generalised views can accommodate.

Of course, in Japan Sinks there is a definitive end, and climate change is a progressive alteration, upheaval and adaptation to an unknown degree, but still Japan Sinks certainly gives the reader an extreme way of viewing it all.

The Twenty Days of Turin - Giorgio de Maria. Surprised ilb doesn't seem to have covered this yet. It's a lot of fun so far, with an overall feeling of cryptic dread, revealed in only loosely connected events, gradually pieced together which is the sort of thing I really like - it allows the reader to project some uncertainty and speculation of their own into what's happening, produce their own terror and unease. What's surprising and delightful, is it's an unexpectedly perfect parable for the social media age, as at the uneasy centre of events is the Library, where people share to the point of exhaustion their quotidian psychopathologies in reams of unfiltered texts, bound and available (anonymously) for reading and, with a payment, for the reader to get the identity of the writers.

Or rather they helped to furnish the illusion of a relationship with the outside world: a dismal cop-out nourished and centralized by a scornful power bent only on keeping people in their state of continuous isolation. The inventors of the Library knew their trade well!”

...

The typical patron of the Library was a shy individual, ready to explore the limits of his own loneliness and to weigh others down with it.

...

Library. And so, a web of mutual espionage came together piece by piece—malicious and futile. You couldn’t leave the house anymore, take a tram, visit a public place, without sensing the leer of somebody who wanted you to believe he’d soaked up all your deepest secrets. If I’d left any of my confessions in that place, I’d probably have lost sleep too . . .” “So you think there’s a relationship between the Library and the insomnia cases?”

and so forth.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 14:15 (two years ago)

Chinaski I recommend Gass's On Being Blue as a sort of companion volume/tonic for Nelson. I liked Nelson at points but also found it a little weighty. Gass I am in the tank for and On Being Blue is really him having fun.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 June 2024 01:57 (two years ago)

seconding

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2024 02:03 (two years ago)

I also love On Being Blue, and Gass in general.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 June 2024 02:52 (two years ago)

I do not like Maggie Nelson. The two books of hers I have read seemed sort of “mainstream queer,” facile in their observations and smugly liberal-but-thinks-they’re-leftists politics. Whenever people say they love her, it’s a red flag for me lol

― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, June 9, 2024 3:00 PM

incredible stuff lol

red flags for everyone

mookieproof, Monday, 10 June 2024 03:33 (two years ago)

Lol imagine being a red flag over a queer author who sold a few books for a while.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 10 June 2024 07:53 (two years ago)

Love getting you two riled up over literally nothing, Nelson (like Solnit) has publicly trashed leftists and radical movements for not being polite enough for her upper class liberal sensibilities, I like plenty of people with whom I don’t agree but a “red flag” in this instance literally means “i cannot trust this person’s politics.” nothing more.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:09 (two years ago)

also, admittedly, i both distrust and resent rich writers who were able to financially go into the fellowship-residency-visiting faculty circle. getting onto that track takes money, and many more worthwhile writers who don’t have it will never get the exposure they deserve. this isn’t shocking or surprising or anything new, but i still dislike it and distrust such people

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 10 June 2024 15:15 (two years ago)

"a “red flag” in this instance literally means “i cannot trust this person’s politics.” nothing more."

And that would be a strange conclusion on that person. I personally would need a bit more than that but you do you.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:04 (two years ago)

Got a great deal into that David Maurer The Big Con and can see how the Sting relates to it. Since the story is pretty much given as one of the set ups. Book is really interesting, may be a bit dated but it is 84 years old. Hearing about marks swallowing the con so deeply that they seek out the con men after losing a load of money thinking they will win next time is priceless and only part of the story. seem to be even worse cases of gullibility or self-conning
I can't remember what turned me onto the book but it's a good read.

Stevo, Wednesday, 12 June 2024 10:14 (two years ago)

"a “red flag” in this instance literally means “i cannot trust this person’s politics.” nothing more."

And that would be a strange conclusion on that person. I personally would need a bit more than that but you do you.


fwiw she directly dresses down comrades of mine in The Argonauts, it’s “personal” in that sense.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:03 (two years ago)

I am reading M. John Harrison’s ‘Climbers’ on the recommendation of a friend, I am having a great time reading about UK dirtbag climber culture of the 80s.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 13 June 2024 12:05 (two years ago)

That's interesting about Spufford. I've seen so many positive reviews of his books over the years, but I've struggled to get through single paragraphs without cringing. The new one (British guy does indigenous American culture) seems like the Sort Of Thing We Don't Do Now, for good reasons.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:20 (two years ago)

right. and i wondered this. me circling round pastiche and the sense of being at a remove when reading it is another way of saying there’s a distance there. it feels research intensive and i think you can usually smell that on the page. exceptions being Pynchon, where yeah it’s clearly research intensive but that’s the wild trip you’re on and it’s super super dense or, say, Hilary Mantel, who manages something like alchemy turning what must have been an extraordinary amount of reading into a world with the material and psychological detail and presence of a george eliot novel.

where here i got the sense of someone going (and this horribly unfair but hey it’s ilx) “heres a topic i can do some literary fiction at”

There’s a question of whether an English author can or should do this sort of thing - yeah my view tends to be “you can do anything you like” - but certainly an english writer tackling US race relations thru an alternate history of the south in a noir style… you gotta go be pretty sure of your chops imo. or cut loose in the way that say, Percival Everett (or Pynchon!) does and just go “no rules, sux to be you if you don’t like it”.

the modes and methods of literary fiction as it is taught by people like spufford militate against that imv.

i’m still very curious about the mieville point! because my immediate reaction was “oh god this reads like mieville” - regulars will know i’m not a fan, and apologies to those who are - so id love to know what the *single suggestion* was. the key to that manner and approach i don’t like… i might email him, but will have to be mealy mouthed about my appreciation for it.

Fizzles, Thursday, 13 June 2024 13:56 (two years ago)

(Maybe that's what more flattering reviewers can't admit to themselves, like with some of the things blurbed for "spare, elegant prose." Turns out: duh, yeah, it's easy to read!)

yeah i'm cautious about *recommending* against reviewers and though I draw the line at 'one of the finest writers of the 21st century so far' everyone seemed to *love* it, can't find a bad review. The most I'd like to claim is it didn't entirely work for me above the level of 'fun'. i like plenty of bad stuff and don't like a lot of good stuff, and I hope people itt read and like Spufford/Cahokia Jazz.

i'll usually recommend stuff i love, but don't really believe in anti...dis......un...recommendations (how long can i carry on blaming covid for my mental decay), and there's nothing i love more than someone who can show to me that my cavils or dismissals have caused me to miss out on an actually excellent piece of music, book, volume of poetry, film etc that I then come to enjoy thanks to that person.

also i go through cycles - when I first joined ilx it was because i asked a friend what to do about the fact that i was consuming everything i already knew or was validated - classics etc, and not just books - that there was no route in for things outside my existing ambit. I think the phrase I used was 'breathing my own exhalations'. Friend said 'hey you should go on ilx' so i did, and was v grateful for it.

that meant picking up very deliberately a load of new stuff and not applying the 'classics' mentality, where everything you read is the quality of idk Flaubert or whatever. it means you're going to read things that are likely to have things that are done well and things that are done less well, and sometimes things that are entirely shit, but that engaging with that process is an essential corollary of reading great works. And you do it because doing it means you're treating with people who are at the very least working *in* the contemporary world, ideally refreshing the artistic and cultural mores modes and forms so their art is operating in and illuminating the now, rather than running on the generational fumes of the hegemonic cohort where most things operate, and even better just ahead of the now, speculating, divining, painting.

but right now I'm at the... aphelion (the furthest away one – I just checked) of that approach, where i'm tired of the sheer amount of middle-ranking stuff and have less tolerance for there being something of interest in most things. That may just be because of a lack of energy and time on my part tbh... and focus actually. but regardless there is a 'this isn't as good as it should be' response (Spufford) or a 'really tho?' response (Quignard).

so yeah, I'd hate to think anyone who might see Cahokia Jazz and have their interest tweaked might go 'nah actually' because of anything i'd posted (total egomania - covid, promise). It's got Aztec symbolism freighted in by Jesuits as a controlling and protective false consciousness and popular belief system for a city/state community preserving racial and indigenous power ffs and who's not going to have their curiousity piqued by *that*.

anyway, wrote him an email asking about the Miéville thing.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 June 2024 06:53 (two years ago)

aw, he responded extremely promptly with a very nice and informative email.

In sum: Everyone read Cahokia Jazz, it's great.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 June 2024 07:04 (two years ago)

I read Light Perpetual by Spufford some time age for a book club, and I liked it, though a flippant take would be "the 7up series did it better"; def no issues with cultural tourism in this one, it is very very British. He also has a certain amount of style, and I feel like amongst the kind of books his audience reads that's not very common?

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 14 June 2024 10:17 (two years ago)

former ilxor max is a fan of Cahokia Jazz iirc

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 14 June 2024 10:27 (two years ago)

right - it may even have been from max's substack that i picked up the rec? At least it was floating round my head for some reason, which is why i got it as a holiday read.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 June 2024 12:34 (two years ago)

Mevlido's Dreams, the latest of Antoine Volodine's to be translated, is now out from Univocal @ UMinn, I started it yesterday. It's big like Radiant Terminus. Seems great so far but I'm completely in the tank for this guy, there isn't a living writer whose work just hits all my pleasure centers like Volodine

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 14 June 2024 13:01 (two years ago)

Oho, ahoy: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2015/07/08/from-nowhere-an-interview-with-antoine-volodine/ Looks promising; where should we start?

dow, Friday, 14 June 2024 21:09 (two years ago)

Yeah, that description in dow's link sounds like catnip for me.

Also on my list is the sequel to Sergio Pitol's The Love Parade.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 14 June 2024 21:33 (two years ago)

lol i saw moira donegan express regret today for having once loved 'the argonauts'

mookieproof, Saturday, 15 June 2024 00:18 (two years ago)

moira donegan…

brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 15 June 2024 01:02 (two years ago)

go on . . .

mookieproof, Saturday, 15 June 2024 01:14 (two years ago)

every generation gets the market apologist they deserve

brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 15 June 2024 01:58 (two years ago)

lol i saw moira donegan express regret today for having once loved 'the argonauts'

― mookieproof, Saturday, 15 June 2024 bookmarkflaglink

This behavior really is lol.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 June 2024 10:53 (two years ago)

I finished Life with Picasso. It was well written and well observed, full of anecdote, and gives a very full and revealing portrait of Picasso in his 60s. That was enough to keep my interest, mainly because Picasso was an interesting character who led a very eventful life. The best parts of the book were Picasso speaking about his art, his methods, and his evaluations of other artists and their work. Francoise Gilot was able to recall some of those conversations in great detail and they were quite illuminating. These bits were few, but valuable.

The other, lesser, parts of the book display Picasso, the person, rather than the artist. They were necessary to include in this memoir of their relationship, but simply put, he was an egoist, often cruel, and psychologically abusive. His rationalizations for his behavior were rather amazing, showing the sort of acuteness that he brought to his art, but in the service of manipulation for his selfish ends. He used DARVO at an unusually refined level, but it was still DARVO. There's some fascination in seeing this side of him through the eyes of the person he manipulated, but it's also wearing to expose oneself to it, even at second hand.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 15 June 2024 20:53 (two years ago)

Girouard, Big Jim
Berenyi, Fingers Crossed
Hoban, The Lion of Boaz-Jachin and Jachin-Boaz

alimosina, Monday, 17 June 2024 19:29 (one year ago)

i read On Locations: Lessons Learned from My Life on set with The Sopranos and in the Film Industry by Mark Kamine

it's much more than a sopranos crew member trying to cash in on their behind the scenes knowledge, really an admirable, heady look @ the movie biz life, largely bereft of gossip or star fuckery. recommended for fans of final cut -RIP Steven Bach, former United Artists exec and author of "Final Cut," one of the essential books about movies

johnny crunch, Monday, 17 June 2024 19:33 (one year ago)

I've started an early Eric Ambler spy thriller, Background to Danger (aka Uncommon Danger), published in 1937. It uses various tropes that Hitchcock soon picked up and used in his various spy thrillers, mostly the ordinary man who is innocently caught up in a web of international intrigue and must call upon all his resourcefulness to outwit his professional opponents. It is a period piece now, but well done.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 17 June 2024 22:55 (one year ago)

pretty sure i've read that ambler if it's the one that starts out in an industrial region of italy? have yet to read one of his that bests epitaph for a spy.

currently in the middle of the minor english poet wh davies's adventures of a super tramp. was enjoying his retelling of his days hoboing around america and experiences in hobo jungles & work camps in the late nineteenth century till it suddenly hit an unpleasantly racist seam that's effectively tarnished it all.

no lime tangier, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 07:27 (one year ago)

“say nothing” (a dua lipa recommended book)

LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 08:53 (one year ago)

It's Ambler's Cause for Alarm that starts out in an industrial region of italy and is unabashedly anti-fascist. This one begins in Nuremberg, but rapidly moves to Austria. The anti-fascist element is there, but more muted.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:23 (one year ago)

ah right, cause for alarm it was!

the proper title for the davies book is *autobiography* of a super tramp, not adventures (also as i discovered later in the book he was welsh not english). it's an interesting portrait of the down & out milieux of both sides of the atlantic at the turn of the twentieth century written in a very plain prose style of wide eyed wonder, but can't say the examples of his poetry at the end have encouraged me to read any of his other work

now started on robert tressell's the ragged trousered philanthropists

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 08:11 (one year ago)

You might also like Jack London's People of The Abyss, in which---maybe considering a roots move back to his American boxcar phase a little too redundant--he goes to London, buys old clothes, and hits the streets, then roads----working in a momnpop bookstore, I sold a collector kid's mom an edition I'd never seen before, and haven't seen since, with Jack's funky photos. (This book was said to be an inspiration for Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London, as JL's The Iron Heel was a forerunner of 1984, and thematically Animal Farm.)

dow, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 22:27 (one year ago)

I've seen an early edition of People of the Abyss with London's photographs included! That was long ago. The copy currently in my library is part of an omnibus collection in the Library of America that also includes The Road, The Iron Heel, Martin Eden, and John Barleycorn. London's reputation has been unfairly whittled down until Call of the Wild is about the only title of his most people can name. He badly needs rehabilitation.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 22:39 (one year ago)

NLT (and all), the best book about hoboing around is “You Can’t Win” by Jack Black. Nothing else compares

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 23:35 (one year ago)

I've taken the liberty of starting a summer 2024 WAYR thread:

'In a somer seson, whan softe was þe sonne': What are You Reading in Summer 2024?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 20 June 2024 03:00 (one year ago)

xpost: was given a flash looking reissue of the jack black book a number of years back, so def on my agenda!

no lime tangier, Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:20 (one year ago)

& jack london yeah, need to investigate more. think i read some of his sea stories years ago but that's about it.

no lime tangier, Thursday, 20 June 2024 07:23 (one year ago)

unfortunately he was a vocal white supremacist. So if that's not a dealbreaker I guess he could write a bit.

Stevo, Thursday, 20 June 2024 10:01 (one year ago)

A lot of 19th-century working-class socialists in the U.S. were pretty racist and supported the Chinese Exclusion Act and were completely paranoid that Asia would overrun this country. To be fair, every white person in the 19th century was totally friggin' racist. And also pro-eugenics. And they beat their children and their horses. But not all white people in the U.S. were as popular in Japan as Jack London was. So, there is that.

scott seward, Thursday, 20 June 2024 12:14 (one year ago)

(then again if a writer wasn't being anti-japanese did the japanese ever really care how racist a writer was? especially in the olden days.)

scott seward, Thursday, 20 June 2024 13:08 (one year ago)


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