Life breaks in sometimes. It’s ok! Best wishes to you both and hope for a better outcome.
― barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:06 (three years ago)
Yes.
― dow, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 18:49 (three years ago)
^ best wishes aimless.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:17 (three years ago)
reading that robert aickman the unsettled dust. i think he likes the term 'strange stories' or something? (i could check but the book is upstairs). it's well written and enjoyable, but his knack almost exemplifies my general point about the incorporated horror going to the states and leaving the unincorporated horror in Britain... no, England I think.. at more or less the turn of the century, via Vincent Starrett, who transferred Machen's physically visible decay to Lovecraft and thence to US comics.
In the UK you were left with the most insubstantial of ghosts, barely even ghosts as we see in this collection. Still, a general *mood* is very well done in this collection. i could do with a bit more *threat* – I mean MR James is hardly lurid.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:23 (three years ago)
Glad to hear it, Aimless.
I am reading 'After Such Knowledge Park' by Mark Francis Johnson— the only book of his I know written entirely in prose. Unsettling, concept-based, and ridiculously funny.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 19:39 (three years ago)
All the best Aimless.
The threat is insubstantial in Aickmann for sure - to the point where I wonder if he was deliberately avoiding the Jamesian wallop. Albeit, in total, I think I find him more, ahem, *unsettling* than James. Have you read his story 'Swords'? One of the grimmest, most unsettling things I've ever read. 'The Hospice', too.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:02 (three years ago)
To be clear, James has the better canon.
I've just got back from 4 days in Paris - a school trip with 35 15year olds. It's broken me, physically and spiritually but it was an amazing trip. I'm in that strange zone where my body is back in the UK, but my head is still in France. I'm putting myself back together by re-reading *A Moveable Feast*. Ironically, I've always felt his coming apart in this book - the nastiness, the mythologising of his past, his generosity to his past selves. However, I'm still in the early stages of it and am in the right mood for Hemingway's sentimentalism and his polysyndetic recreations of the 1920s.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:10 (three years ago)
i haven't read either 'swords' or 'the hospice' - apparently 'the stains' in this volume is v good as well.
i'm pretty certain he was avoiding the jamesian wallop (a critical term for the ages). and i find it interesting, and unsettling. i just don't *enjoy* it as much. i think it's a high wire act in some ways, and i enjoy him trying it and me wrestling with it.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:29 (three years ago)
was sufficiently moved by light years to try another salter. picked all that is, essentially at random.
i liked the huge cast of characters and his willingness to describe the lives of so many people, although given his known willingness to appropriate real events (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/04/15/the-last-book), part of me thinks this he made this choice simply to allow him to use as many real events as possible.
it (or rather the many characters) are also very mean and quite sexist, which surprised me given it was written 35 years later than light years.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 23:02 (three years ago)
I've been rereading Joan Didion's THE WHITE ALBUM (1979). It does not stand up very well.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 09:47 (three years ago)
why not?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 09:56 (three years ago)
Funnily enough, I saw a copy of The Unsettled Dust in the library and motored through it. The weaker stories are definitely in the front - the final three, 'Ravissante', 'Bind Your Hair' and 'The Stains', are especially strong and have a real cumulative power. Without wishing to spoilerise, all three contain moments of more overt 'horror' and certainly moments that creeped me the fuck out. The uneasy sexual fear that Aickman was more at liberty to exploit (but which is also very deep in a lot of James) is again especially overt in The Stains, but it's also one of his saddest stories that, unusually, contains an epilogue that spells out the main character's fate.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 10:10 (three years ago)
I think the fact that Aickman edited the first eight Fontana Ghost Story collections is misleading; The Unsettled Dust itself is one of his few actual ghost stories (along with 'The Trains', another favourite). Although of course they can all be read as ghost stories, if you like.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 10:12 (three years ago)
Poster Alfred: I could try to explain fully, though I know others would not share my views. I know that there is a very extensive Joan Didion thread on which people have already had their say about her - I must have first posted about 16 years ago, and many times since - so one should not really relitigate it.
But ... specifically from this rereading:
1: I think the book is poorer than people might think or remember simply because it is a collection of reports culled together from magazines. Less good, really, than the average collection of LRB reviews (by Frank Kermode, James Meek, et al).
2: I think her writing is often brittle, mannered and not as good as she thinks it is. It contains a lot of redundancy and unnecessary verbiage in the form of rhetorical tics.
3: I think that when political judgments come through, they are often very conservative (which for some people would itself be a demerit), but are not argued through rationally and carefully; rather, usually, they are presented as sarcastic snipes. I understand that this mode may suit a weekly magazine that people then throw away, but it does not wear well as a book to be assessed decades later. The sarcasm is very limited and unpersuasive. The points that it makes do not convince me.
Again, the impressions that keep coming to mind are brittleness and an overestimation of her own powers, wit, persuasiveness. The style and the ideas feel much thinner and weaker than she seems to think they are.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 12:11 (three years ago)
Here is one particular point, which does not prove or disprove my view or any other view in general:
In the possibly famed essay on the women's movement (1972), Didion writes that the feminists seek an escape from adulthood and the body; cleanliness; an avoidance of things like the mess of the body and sex, things that come with being a woman.
This is particularly strange as I think the reverse could be posited. It could well be said that feminists of the 1970s were actually insisting on the body and sexuality; menstruation, blood and the menopause; the reality of sex (pleasure and violence); childbirth and childrearing (as has sometimes been pointed out in the past, feminist writers of that time were often also young mothers, sometimes bringing up children in more collective forms than the middle-class norm of the time). It could well be said that feminists were inserting these things into a public discourse that had indeed been too 'clean' and polite to acknowledge them (arguably in the interests of masculinity, patriarchy, inequality, etc).
In this specific regard, then, Didion seems to me to arguing the opposite of the truth.
However, it must be acknowledged that it must have depended on specifically which feminists one was reading, and on differences between schools of feminist writing in different places.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 12:17 (three years ago)
I tend to prefer most of her work from the '80s onward: Salvador, Miami, After Henry, Political Fictions. She perfected the hawk-circling-its-prey distance/attack.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 12:20 (three years ago)
Didion was small-c-conservative and big-c conservative, but, unlike many Orange County peers, Reagan broke her.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 12:21 (three years ago)
but his knack almost exemplifies my general point about the incorporated horror going to the states and leaving the unincorporated horror in Britain... no, England I think.. at more or less the turn of the century, via Vincent Starrett, who transferred Machen's physically visible decay to Lovecraft and thence to US comics.
British horror of the first half of the 20th century vs American horror of same era comparable to UK cinema vs classic Hollywood in these times maybe? I.e. first one stodgier, almost allergic to showbiz sparkle, occasionally producing works of great genius but not at a rate comparable to the latter?
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 13:00 (three years ago)
october's reading was:
macbeth - william shakespeareby the pricking of my thumbs - agatha christiesomething wicked this way comes - ray bradbury
do you see what i did there?
did macbeth for o level in 1984
pricking was ok, tommy and tuppence, not attacking the labour party this time. and interestingly they appeared to have aged in real time, given they were teenagers in the first book.
first time for something wicked. felt a lot like stephen king but more poetic. maybe would've been more effective without some of the more outlandish things.
― koogs, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:21 (three years ago)
multiple xposts to ward f. yes good stuff: ravissante is excellent and your phrase “uneasy sexual fear” is on point.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:16 (three years ago)
A quick rereading of THE CRYING OF LOT 49 (1965), skimming slightly early on but then less and less.
By far my favourite Pynchon, even one of my favourite novels; yet this time it felt thinner than before. Maybe the stage management and narrative mechanics seemed more awkwardly on show. The dialogue is an example of that. And the drama of discovery which so thrilled me first time, many years ago, doesn't now. Yet it's still very densely packed for a short book.
The theme of information - and information theory, retrieval, memory, loss - came through strongly; more than the alternative term 'communication', though to be that's raised sometimes. The sequence where the heroine thinks about a hobo with delirium tremens and how much sweat is sunk into in his bed, and will eventually be lost - which as I write it out seems a pretty unsavoury image - is longer and more emphasised than I'd remembered. I don't fully understand this theme, still don't understand the Maxwell's Demon theme after over 20 years. But I do sense that Pynchon was one of the first, at least outside SF, to write fiction with information, in this sense, as such a theme and concern; with an idea, for instance, that matter contains information or could be described in terms of information. Mucho Maas's interesting peroration on how to analyse music down to its component parts would be a related example.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2022 11:48 (three years ago)
Hey, take it over to the book crying of lot 49
― Capital Radio Sweetheart (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:48 (three years ago)
If not Itt videos of people singing “Crying”
― Capital Radio Sweetheart (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:50 (three years ago)
Started Warren Ellis' book about a piece of Nina Simone's chewing gum. He retrieved it from her piano after a transcendent gig at the Festival Hall in 1999, wrapped it in the towel she'd used to mop her brow, and kept it a secret from thereon, holding onto it as a kind of sacred relic. The book is about his bringing it out into the open, as part of an exhibition Nick Cave put on in Copenhagen in 2019, and how it opened up into an archaeology of his past via various objects.
It could be pure self-indulgence (and it kind of is) but Ellis is so wide-eyed and generous that some of the more hokey spiritual stuff comes across as completely genuine. It's beautifully put together as well, particularly the photography.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:06 (three years ago)
I have to reread Crying of Lot 49 now. (I never connected that theme to the book and am intrigued that it is of interest to scholars in literature.)
― youn, Thursday, 27 October 2022 18:31 (three years ago)
I feel the same. I'd never thought about it from the angle of information theory before (and wouldn't have known enough about information theory to connect it anyway), and I'm probably due for a re-read at some point.
― o. nate, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:36 (three years ago)
pinefox otm. Thought about that California again while reading Devil House (and especially when the narrator of Wolf In White Van walks to the convenience store and actually talks to somebody in real time, although Cali is always right there, now that I think of it duhhh), also Emma Cline's The Girls
― dow, Friday, 28 October 2022 00:53 (three years ago)
Now I'm intrigued by the Warren Ellis mention as well, thx Chinaski.
― dow, Friday, 28 October 2022 00:57 (three years ago)
The Ellis book is lovely. The central conceit - the archaeology of the self and ideas through the uncovering of a found object - isn't particularly original but his devotion to the magic of this thing he possesses is quite something. In some ways, the book is a bagatelle, really, almost a kids' book because of Ellis' lack of overt style and pretension, its structure and its use of repetition, but there are a couple of recurring stories in there that I found quite overwhelming.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2022 09:46 (three years ago)
Finished Mark Francis Johnson's 'After Such Knowledge Park,' a prose poem piece of 135 pages that is by turns insane, hilarious, and quite sad. It involved a "future" protagonist in what appears to be a version of the Earth, but this protagonist has several more limbs than we humans do. Like many future dystopias, the spectre of what amounts to enslavement hovers over the book, with talks of "selling parts of my cash-bod" and etc. Unlike any of his other books in form, it does contain some of the antic elements of Johnson's poems— there is a section of about four or five pages in length that is ostensibly naming starships, but they're all actually the names of daycare centers stolen directly from the phone book.
Also continuing with the Prynne reading group, spent some time this week with Wordsworth and Marvell as a result, too.
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Friday, 28 October 2022 15:42 (three years ago)
i re-started The Peripheral a few weeks ago to get past the initial (deliberate) disorientation. got past it. felt it was ok. then got bored again. then saw there was a tv series and thought “ah fuck it” and put it down for good.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 16:39 (three years ago)
I've been reading The Housing Lark by Sam Selvon. A novel about West Indians living in London in the '60s trying to get around racist landlords by buying a house, it's unusual for being told in the third-person in a West Indian patois. It's also acute about race, irreverent, and funny.
― o. nate, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:46 (three years ago)
I really like Selvon, I’ve read Ways of Sunlight and I think The Lonely Londoners is somewhere around.
― barry sito (gyac), Friday, 28 October 2022 20:00 (three years ago)
Has Warren Ellis been rehabilitated?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 28 October 2022 20:10 (three years ago)
I assume you mean the twatty comic writer Warren Ellis? The memoir is him off Dirty Three/Bad Seeds.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:11 (three years ago)
Unless I've missed something major.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:12 (three years ago)
Mostly been reading newspapers, as most suited to my available time, energy level and attention span, but before bed I've been reading a few pages of Mowat's Greatest Hit: Never Cry Wolf. I should finish it before New Year's Day.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:17 (three years ago)
Is there another Warren Ellis? Who writes books, I mean.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:32 (three years ago)
There is a Warren Ellis who writes mostly comics, yes.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:47 (three years ago)
And yes, musician Warren Ellis (different from comic book/shitty dude Warren Ellis) apparently has a book now
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:49 (three years ago)
It's great! (See garbled reviews from about 7 posts ago. Have I gone through the looking glass?)
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:52 (three years ago)
I had not heard of musician Warren Ellis. I thought you were talking about the guy who writes comics, novels, screenplays, etc.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:53 (three years ago)
He was the front guy in Dirty 3 viewed as a master violinist and a bit of a raconteur. Took over from Mick Harvey as musical director of teh Bad Seeds too. Bought me a pint once.He saved the gum that Nina Simone stucck to her piano when Nick Cave hosted Meltdown. He wrote a book about that and various other things. I need to read it.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 30 October 2022 11:20 (three years ago)
At the moment I am reading Kid Congo Powers memoir Some New Kind of Kick which I got on Friday. I think I held teh door to the bookshop open for the person delivering it, then got told book wasn't in yet then got a phonecall saying it was like 2 minutes after that. Great coincidence. Bookshop is around teh corner from teh course I'm on so popped in there for a browse anyway thinking the book was still a few days away.Quite great book, hope Kid writes some more after this. I'm 100 and something pages in and Kid is being a hellion on the LA punk scene. Has met the rhythm section he is going to play with in the initial Creeping Ritual/Gun Club way before he met Jeffrey Lee Pierce. Is dabbling with drugs a lot. Thankfully more acid than harder stuff so far. I think its a pageturner and will recommend it to anybody into his music or related. Glad I told him he should write a memoir, seem to have not been the only one to have done so. I remembered him telling me he kept a journal when he was with the Gun club , in 1984 o0r around then so hoped he kept one going. I thought thsi was partially ghostwritten before i got it but it doesn't really seem to be. Thought there was a credit to a with somebody but if thsi si all him hope it is not the only thing he writes.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 30 October 2022 11:29 (three years ago)
I have occasionally been reading Colin MacInnes' ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 30 October 2022 17:04 (three years ago)
Been a long time, but I remember preferring the first in that trilogy, City of Spades, about low-budget bohemian black-white youth subcultures in London.
― dow, Sunday, 30 October 2022 21:21 (three years ago)
I think I have an omnibus with both.There was an overhyped film of Absolute Beginners in the 80s. Had Bowie in it I think.Paul Welled used the book title for a good Jam track too.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 30 October 2022 21:32 (three years ago)
After my 36 hours in hospital, settling into George Crabbe’s THE VILLAGE
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Monday, 31 October 2022 00:09 (three years ago)
Rereading Angela Carter, THE PASSION OF NEW EVE (1977).
― the pinefox, Monday, 31 October 2022 22:26 (three years ago)
I am still reading baseball books and I finished Andrew Baggarly’s first book about the 2010 SF Giants team which I’ll write up later. For reasons best understood by my seemingly enduring fascination with the World Series winning teams of the past decade, I’m currently reading Barry Zito’s autobiography, Curveball.Zito is a really weird character. Literally every interview I’ve read about him I thought, is this a bit?Reader, it was not.The truly great sports book needs a rise and a fall, and maybe a rise again later. You also need brutal honesty about the person’s shortcomings and foibles. Does Curveball deliver? Does it ever.From chapter 10, entitled Nobody’s Fault But My Own:
The strange feeling was likely the result of a crazy experiment I got in on when one of my spiritual practitioners offered me a homeopathic remedy to connect me with my “spirit animal.” You probably figured spirit animals would enter the picture at some point, right? After assessing me over the phone, the scientist declared mine to be a lion. He gave me some tablets to take that he said contained real lion’s milk. I never asked him how you milk a lion but I often wondered. After several days on “the milk,” Brian and I were on the double date when the thoughts of choking someone began to overwhelm me. As a normally chill, laid-back guy, this was completely out of character for me. A couple of hours later while still out on the town, a friend of mine saw me and asked if I would come next door to grab a drink at the bar where she worked. I gladly agreed.…Later at home trying to settle myself down, I called Paul and told him what had happened. After hearing my odd, out-of-character story, he got fired up, which made his accent sound even thicker: “Well, mate, do you know how a lion kills its prey?” He paused for a dramatic effect. “He goes for the throat and chokes ’em out! You’re becoming a lion, Barry!” Paul was obviously referring to the tablets I had been taking. In that moment, my mind rushed back to what I had texted Brian at the beginning of the night about choking someone. Finally connecting the dots, I thought it was obvious the lion’s milk had taken effect, because I had never wanted to do such a thing before; in fact, violence was always something I avoided.
In hearing everyone’s stories, I saw right away that—compared to me and my almost unlimited resources—these people had real problems. I don’t mean to say I wasn’t drowning in my own issues, but as humans who gain some wealth, we can all too quickly forget what struggling to pay rent feels like. That reality check was a positive element for me.
I had been growing a mustache for the past month, which also worked in my favor. She later told me, “I never thought you would propose to me with that thing on your face.”
― barry sito (gyac), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 10:59 (three years ago)