Literary treats - recommend great reads

*me

also The Hearing Trumpet is one of the best books ever as far as I'm concerned btw, 100% concur, get on it, etc

I think it's less that I want to recommend pure experimental lit and more that sometimes I don't know what people would consider overly experimental - to me something like The Third Policeman is a real treat, but would its quirks rule it out? But if experimental stuff is not completely banned, just not preferred, then that feels easier.

I recently got around to The Invention of Morel by Adolfo Bioy Casares and that felt quite treat-like. The central character is overly obsessive about a woman he never speaks to, which may be off-putting, but I didn't feel pushed into empathising with that emotion but rather found myself chuckling at its extent. Mileage might vary, I guess.

books like The Third Policeman manage to be both treats and the best books ever written tbf, this thread absolutely needs its ilk

A Happy man by Hansjorg Schertenleib is a book that's prob a treat, just a guy walking around with a happy (or well-adjusted) life and every sentence it seems like he's going to die, a very strange tension that I haven't really seen very much

Edmund White's Forgetting Elena is... [pause to consider] quite acceptable here. Don't you think?

various things by John Einarson though I noticed a few years ago that his name keeps getting mispelt on different books or possibly listiongs. He has done some really good music bios including ghost writing/compiling Arthur Lee's memoir. His Mr Tambourine Man on Gene Clark was really good too.

I really enjoyed Behind The Scenes on the Pegasus Carousel by Love drummer Michael Stewart Ware. It was one of the first insider memoirs from the band· I haven't reread it in a while and it has had 2 different updates which I also haven't caught up with.
just looking around my room and seeing love posters on teh wall so being reminded by that.

Simon Reynolds various books on post-punk including Rip It Up And Start Again.

Mark Mordue's book on the young Nick Cave Boy On Fire
Clinton Walker's Stranded on Australian punk and its aftermath

Natasha Ginzburg - Sagittarius
Joy Williams - The Quick and the Dead
Elizabeth Taylor - A Wreath of Roses

based on these selections, one would do well to read any given new york review classic

I've run into a few duds in NYRB Classics, but overall it has an excellent hit rate. If I see one shelved in a used bookshop I always investigate it and usually buy it, read it and enjoy it.

Black Wings Has My Angel by Elliot Chaze is another really good NYRB book - a forgotten classic of noir that I can't begin to describe but that made me put the book down and stare at a wall several times while I was reading it.

That may not sound like much of a treat but I meant it in a good way.

Loved reading Eva Baltasar's Permafrost earlier this year. Maybe too caustic for a treat? But the prose is really packed, maybe reads a bit like what it is -- European fiction in translation -- but it was as vital to read as anything I've read in a long time.

They hired me on a Monday, three months after my first article. For the first time, I felt colorless — a dreadful muddle of various hues, an unthinkably grim and grayish green. My skin was like a mollusk shell, my body parched, my muscles fibrous like esparto grass — and inside I smelled of a parking lot.

I enjoyed the two above-mentioned Babitz books too.

loved 'black wings has my angel'

That one’s on my list/pvmic

- The Beginning of Spring (Fitzgerald), my favourite book by my favourite author, the perfect midpoint between her early and late styles
- At Freddie’s (Fitzgerald), the funniest one
- The Beiderbecke Affair (Plater), the best ever novelisation of a TV show (not counting Steven Moffat’s The Day or the Doctor, which is probably too niche for this list)
- Harriet the Spy, one of the few books everyone should read

I really love The Long Secret, the sequel to Harriet the Spy.

I’m just about to start reading that!

Black Wings Has My Angel by Elliot Chaze is another really good NYRB book - a forgotten classic of noir that I can't begin to describe but that made me put the book down and stare at a wall several times while I was reading it.

Hard Rain Falling by Don Carpenter has a similar effect as this, and goes in a couple of directions you wouldn't necessarily expect from this genre.

May as well start rounding out the list of NYRB Treats. The classic Western Warlock by Oakley Hall was one of my most captivating reads of the last few years. You can see the seeds of Deadwood being planted as you're reading it.

Warlock rules, can confirm

gah i started it last year and had trouble getting into it. i will try again.

lol i basically tried every nyrb classic that the library had five years ago but couldn't get into any of them. the hearing trumpet and the tove jansson book look promising though.

I borrowed my brother's copy of Warlock, didn't read it, and accidentally dropped it through the library return slot because I mistook it for another NYRB book. This is a good reminder that I should get around to ordering him another copy.

The Tove Jansson one is super good.

Ish Reed's early Yellowback Radio Brokedown, The Freelance Pallbearers, and Mumbo Jumbo are short, not sweet, and imaginative, in a fun way (can see where Blazing Saddles might have come from, for inst).
ZZ Packer's Drinking Coffee Elsewhere is a stone cold classic collection of modern short stories, funny and scary and touching.
AJ LIebling's The Earl of Louisiana set standards for The New Journalism, also the old journalism; in 1959, he checks out a particularly wild turn in the epic career of Louisiana Gov. Earl Long, little brother and lifelong rival of the sainted Huey. Sprung from an asylum after brief, pesky experience, he revs up to run for re-election yet again, though now even his juggling of various shades of black-creole-cajun-WASP-country-urban-etc. interests, also the rich, who tend to hate him but make some deals, even his skillz are tested by backlash vs. civil rights movement, as both sides begin to accelerate
---Liebling is well-quaiified to hobnob with sources in NOLA and elsewhere, but mainly he's partaking of the insider gossip, while observing with the eye of a quick study and very seasoned pro (was war correspondant as weill as appreciator of racetracks and victuals, also one of the best New Yorker rovers of his era). Edutaining as all hell, serious too, and not very long (I checked pape count for all of these) _
This may well have been an inspiration for the Coen Brothers movie in which Paul Newman played Earl (good job, though visually a stretch).
Ditto for Billy Lee Bramner's The Gay Place, three novellas from the orbit of a Texas governor w some of the same feats and challenges as Earl (and some other historical pols of those crispy times)---but TGP is too long for this list sry

yes, i have and have read the tove jansson. it's also short!

oh i meant to say and is very good lol

Oh yeah, and Thomas Farber's Tales for the Son of My Unborn Child Berkeley, 1966 - 1969: thoughtful portraits of men and women he knew, also turns the camera around when he gets embarrassingly involved with a sub-Gurdjieff cult leader, a swaggering asshole, shitting on your illusions (worse than Mr. Natural, because realer, although we're left to judge, if we care to, how much of this collection is fiction).

Ah cool, so is Capek worth reading in general, then? Obv famed for popularising 'robot', but I've never been sure if he's worth digging into in his own right.

Yes! I adore Capek, and I went back and forth between recommending War With the Newts, his short story collection Tales from Two Pockets, and a work called Three Novels that might be my favorite but that I ruled out because it could be classified as experimental. He's remembered more for the sci-fi stuff because it's so prescient - he specializes in scenarios where people invent something dangerous, become economically dependent on it, and then keep using it when it's clear that it's actively destroying the world - but he's also good at the small-scale stuff; he's human and humane and funny and dark and intensely empathetic. He's a realist, a magical realist, a satirist, a visionary, and the most grounded and approachable of philosophers. I love him in the same way I love John Prine.

Damn, that's me sold!

Ish Reed's early Yellowback Radio Brokedown, The Freelance Pallbearers, and Mumbo Jumbo are short, not sweet, and imaginative, in a fun way (can see where Blazing Saddles might have come from, for inst).

Was thinking about suggesting Mumbo Jumbo myself, actually (I haven't read the others). There are elements that I would describe as experimental but it really carries you along, definitely was a fun treat for me when I read it.

Seconding Out Stealing Horses.

Adding

Love and War in the Appenines - Eric Newby’s beautifully written memoir of being a POW, escaping and then hiding out in Italy during WW II.

Edisto - Padgett Powell. Novel about a boy growing up on the South Carolina coast with an eccentric mother.

I think I read the Newby book under the title of When the Snow Comes, They Will Take You Away. It was really good.

If the question is 'what's a book that's just enjoyable to read?' -- then my most immediate answer is probably: Raymond Chandler, eg: FAREWELL, MY LOVELY.

I've only read Long Goodbye (loved) and Big Sleep (good on a sentence level, story kinda generic). Are any of the others as good as Long Goodbye, or like The Big Sleep, but better?

Two of my favorite pure treat books, just 100% delightful to read, are Brat Farrar and The Singing Sands by Josephine Tey. Both classic mystery novels but with much more emphasis on the novel part than the mystery part.

Oh cool, need to check her. After inspecting the Parker jacket in Lucy Sante's Maybe The People Would Be The Times(2020--great collection, but prob too long and experimental for this thread, so don't repeat DON'T READ IT), I did finally get to Dirty Money, l Richard Stark's last, only one local library has---doesn't matter, prob could have been at any point in the series, at least after the first, blanking on the title, but filmed as Point Blank, one of the best crime pix of 60s, next to Get Carter. In the debut, there's a revenge factor, but once he gets his groove on, Parker's just stealing to steal, doesn't even seem thrilled by it, or anything, just wants to get a plan and a crew together and go do it, as true catalyst, unaffected by the changes he causes, the havoc in other lives, leagues, other crims, and some unwitting accomplices, later w shrewdie self-images shattered ("How could I have missed that??")
What an asshole, and I was rooting for him to get caught, though I think Sante mentioned that he'd done fine in prison, duh. Not perfect, but kept me reading for sure.

"leagues other crims" I meant "colleagues, and other crims" (others being targets, also side-switchers when nec., though he still screws with them)

I really love The Long Secret, the sequel to Harriet the Spy.

― Lily Dale, Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I’m just about to start reading that!

― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, November 17, 2021 8:39 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Often my favorite novel

I'm more involved with Inspector Maigret, whether he 's emotionally drawn into his latest case or not: sometimes he's just breaking it down w expertise, w something seedy and poignant through the cracks: good enough explanation for him, as he's thinking about a little paperwork, stopping in for a drink, home again so the wife can "feed him like a toddler," as one female Simenon historian observed.

Most recent fave: A Maigret Trio---Three Novels Never Before Published In The United States (early 70s, which is when he'd lived in the US long enough to get into English well enough to become dissatisfied w earlier translations, launching a big redo of complete works, which concluded fairly recently, if at all, really)
All from the Inspector and his creator's last professional decade, and figures from M.'s past figure, professionally-emotionally, in different ways (usually sucks for him, great for us).

i like those too. they are definitely treats.

Lily Dale, thanks to your campaign, I did keep digging into the Collyer Brothers family values 'til I reached Wives and Daughters!

Srsly Louise Fitzhugh rules. She taught me a lot.

I found a like-new Penguin copy of Wives and Daughters in one of those "Take a book, leave a book" boxes (a system that I've been slightly abusing). Thinking of starting that or The Man Who Loved Children.

My WaD is Wordsworth Classics; I don't recall anything else published by them, but this edition seems okay (?) At least, it is Complete And Unabridged, With an Introduction and Notes by Dinny Thorold, University of Westminster, this edition published 1999, Introduction and Notes ©2003 Dinny Thorold.
For my husband Anthony John Ranson with love from your wife, the publisher, eternally grateful for your unconditional love.

publisher, listed as Wordsworth Classics Director: Elene Gavriel Ranson.

Chuck Tatum: FWIW I'd be inclined to say that FAREWELL, MY LOVELY is like THE BIG SLEEP but better. (Also better than THE HIGH WINDOW, but THE LADY IN THE LAKE, now I think of it, is remarkable.)

If anyone is looking to follow up on any of the NYRB Classics recommendations above, they're having a flash sale weekend.

ty! good tip

Wordsworth Classics are the staple of those remaindered bookshops that no longer exist in Hammersmith and Notting Hill, extensive range of classics, like a bookcase full, decent enough quality and only £1.99 each.

I kept picturing it as a black comedy like Nightie Night, or Peep Show, with George played by David Mitchell and Peter with his reprehensible moustache as Ray Purchase from Toast

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Hangover Square is one of my favourite novels, a masterpiece. Part of the small sub-genre of Brighton Noir too!

Hahaha. Black comedy is the only real way to cope with the tragedy of it. Slays two. Found gassed. Thinks of cat. has to be comedy, right?

I used to go to awful marketing conferences at Earl's Court. I'd drift out into the evening and walk among those beautiful Second Empire buildings and think of Bone. What a book.

Talking of literary treats and (vaguely) Brighton Noir: *Fullalove* by Gordon Burn is magnificent.

Hangover Square is superb. Only recently realised the title is a pun! #onethread

Desperate Characters
Keep thinking I've read that, but I'm always just mixing it up with _Two Serious Ladies_ by Jane Bowles.
I'm slightly put off by Franzen's enthusiasm for _Desperate Characters_, which is just nonsense on my part.

_Two Serious Ladies_ may well be an appropriate novel for this thread.

I think DFW was a desperate characters booster as well

2 serious ladies is great as is that one play she wrote

Just heard recently that the reason Franzen got into it was because Sigrid Nunez lent him her copy while they were at a writer's conference.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/t-magazine/sigrid-nunez-paula-fox-desperate-characters.html
Guess she just recommended, didn't actually lend a copy.

I'm another Desperate Characters lover. I've also recommended it to many people. one of the interesting things is the picture of early Brooklyn gentrification. another possible hook, the author is Courtney Love's grandmother. I haven't read any of her other books though I started Western Coast and somehow lost the thread

Yeah my attempts to read other Paula Fox books fell flat. Kinda like me and Christina Stead books that aren't The Man Who Loved Children (also a Franzen pick or was that Moody? Anyway, i love that book.) And also any Penelope Fitzgerald book that isn't The Bookshop.

also, if anyone hasn't read it yet, please do read The Bookshop. so great.

it is but I also liked offshore, maybe not quite as much, and the blue flower probably more. the golden child was not good though. I'll get round to the rest sooner or later.

Penelope Fitzgerald uniformly good except for maybe the first one which is think is The Golden Child. I had a similar Paula Fox problem but now I remember that I did like Poor George.

best bk i read recently = "sonny liston was a friend of mine" by thom jones

Re-reading The Lantern Bearers by Rosemary Sutcliff, as I often do at times like this.

Reading another Sigrid Nunez book, one that’s a little harder to get a hold of. Need to finish it soon and return it to the library for the next patron to borrow.

Finished it last night. Naked Sleeper. Another keeper.

Sigrid Nunez has been doing it for me lately, The Friend and What Are You Going Through? total gems

Cool, might go for The Friend then! Had to turn off The Room Next Door, felt v heavy-handed

Yeah.

In addition to everything else, The Friend also had quite a bit of lived-in NYC detail, while The Room Next Door was more touristy.

Reread Yoruba Girl Dancing by Simi Bedford and decided to post here instead of WAYR because I feel it entirely qualifies. It's about a privileged Nigerian girl, living with many servants, who then gets shipped off to England at age six because her father thinks she needs an "English education". But while the paternal family are bigwigs in Nigeria their English relations are the product of a white working class woman who had fallen in love with her maternal grandfather and moved to Africa. So on top of the gigantic culture shock she also gets stuck between two worlds: a none more posh boarding school and, during the holidays, time spent running around with neighbourhood kids in Croydon. Her elocution teacher is absolutely raging when, after having erased her Nigerian accent in favour of rp, the protagonist then returns from holidays sporting a thick South London accent. Lots of great atmosphere, all sorts of environments of 50's Britain are tackled. Racism is both pervasive and free floating, she does a really good job of showing how different characters can have different blind spots but also surprising progressive impulses.

Bedford has only written one other book, which I plan on checking out. Her public profile should be much higher.

Sounds great! My library only has her other book, will give it a go.

I'll nominate The Reluctant Fundamentalist (2007) by Mohsin Hamad which is a perfect little page turner